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Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.21 23:59:00 -
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My only issue with the wikia site is its tendency toward unsecure advertisements. I've been attacked through wikia's ads twice now. Many other sites with advertising don't seem to have this issue, but of course, many do. Wikia has a HIGH rate of traffic, so for it to not be more secure than most of the internet makes for a poor showing. And also gives malware writers a boost, by it being such a vector, at least in the past. I've stayed away from Wikia for several months, but if it's boosting its security, I'd like to become a visitor to it again, for the great information there.
And I do use an anti-virus product, which kept the attack through the Wikia ads from succeeding, but I don't want to test this repeatedly to see when the malware will beat the anti-virus development team.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Duvida
I do use an anti-virus product
Who the hell doesn't nowadays ?
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unsecure advertisements
Ad blockers FTW ? Quite a few browsers have that built in. Stop using IE ?
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illford baker
ZZ's tax free corp
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Duvida
I do use an anti-virus product
Who the hell doesn't nowadays ?
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unsecure advertisements
Ad blockers FTW ? Quite a few browsers have that built in. Stop using IE ?
ad blockers block the ads from showing, but they are still loaded. if they contain harmful viruses or malware, they will still load.
unless you have chrome and adblocker, in which case, thanks to a change in the webkit trunk, implemented by apple, it wont even load.
as for you not using anti-virus, that is so dumb (que bed intruder song guy). go download avast or something, anything is better than nothing (except for mcafee).
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Taedrin
Gallente
White Haven Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:39:00 -
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Firefox+noscript+adblock and never look back.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: illford baker
(except for mcafee and norton).
FYP
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Chuuuuy
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Posted - 2010.09.22 02:49:00 -
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You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
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JDawg1290
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Posted - 2010.09.22 04:37:00 -
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you mean http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page ?
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Comrade Tsukae
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Chuuuuy
You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
Pretty much the same. I've had a few minor infections, but it isn't even a big deal to me since I wipe my hd every year or so.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: illford baker
ad blockers block the ads from showing, but they are still loaded.
Get a better ad blocker.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Tae Ren
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: illford baker
(except for mcafee and norton).
FYP
 Norton is a decent antivirus, even more so if you use the Norton Internet Security with manual firewall settings. I wouldnt call it the best antivir software, but it easily gets into top 5. The only downside is the higher than average resource usage, but if your machine can handle its worth it imo. The older versions before 2009 were really just crap, but ever since they switched to a completely new core engine, it is much lighter, faster and reliable. I dont understand where this negative feedback to norton is coming from. I even remember reading an article from a website that does quarterly comparisons of antivirus programs - and norton was one of the best results.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tae Ren
Norton is a decent virus
Fixed.
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I dont understand where this negative feedback to norton is coming from.
Decades worth of being directly harmful to your computer.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Kyo Makamoto
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.22 07:42:00 -
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What is the OP talking about?
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page is NOT Wikia.
Not only that, but there is NO (dynamic) advertising on that page.
I think the OP is advised to download some anti-advertising cleaners (adaware etc) to remove junk from his computer.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2010.09.22 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tae Ren
Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: illford baker
(except for mcafee and norton).
FYP
I dont understand where this negative feedback to norton is coming from.
Because it doesn't work, and in many cases actually makes your computer stop working properly. The only people who use Norton (and Mcafee) are people who don't know any better. Sadly these people are suckered into buy a product they think works but all it does is make their computer slower.
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Aera Aiana
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: illford baker
ad blockers block the ads from showing, but they are still loaded. if they contain harmful viruses or malware, they will still load.
What kind of adblocker would that be?
Originally by: illford baker
unless you have chrome and adblocker, in which case, thanks to a change in the webkit trunk, implemented by apple, it wont even load.
Huh? I'm pretty sure the stuff blocked by NoScript/FF won't load. Do you have some sort of proof or do you just make it up as you write it? :)
Originally by: illford baker
as for you not using anti-virus, that is so dumb (que bed intruder song guy). go download avast or something, anything is better than nothing (except for mcafee).
AVs are overrated. Common sense is a much better protection. But for those who don't have it, AVs offer at least some basic protection.
You'll definitely want some sort of firewall though. Preferably not just a software solution.
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Don't let the trolls stop you from giving a helpful reply. Troll or no troll.
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Zagdul
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.22 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 22/09/2010 11:56:06
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Duvida
I do use an anti-virus product
Who the hell doesn't nowadays ?
Raises hand...
I'm also not stupid enough to allow anything to execute on my computer via the tubes. Pretty simple...
1. don't click on links in e-mails.
2. use a web browser that asks if you want to execute code on your computer (i.e.: are you sure you want to run this program).
3. don't click on advertisements, and if (I dont use no-script) they do send a js popup, ctrl+alt+del, close FF, relaunch.
4. don't be stupid and fall for the "your computer needs to be checked for viruses" popup.
On adblock: It blocks ads for known ad sites or from custom filters you set. If the site isn't in the lists which you subscribe to, the ad won't be blocked. Many sites which push the viruses or keyloggers are one time deals that are hosted randomly and circumvent adblock.
Lastly,
Wiki sites are never "safe" as they can be edited publicly. always use the navigation bar on the bottom of your browser to verify that the link is valid before clicking on it. Alternatively, you could copy link location, paste in a new window to see it better.
EDIT:
PS - in the event you do catch a bug... the best program to use to get rid of it is Malwarebytes. google it.
if you're on Vista/7, MS's new built in virus removal is pretty comprehensive and does a very good job of cleansing. however, since removal of a virus is only as good as the detection software, using multiple tools is a good idea.
clamwin is another very good/lightweight program.
I don't like:
AVG
Avast
Norton
McCafee
Comodo
ZoneAlarm
they're all fat, bloated pieces of junk that take 2x the resources to run than should be necessary to get the job done.
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Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.09.22 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chuuuuy
You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
Why you think ADOBE brings security patches constantly? How you know you are not infected when you dont have antivirus software?
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.22 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vitamin B12
Originally by: Chuuuuy
You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
Why you think ADOBE brings security patches constantly? How you know you are not infected when you dont have antivirus software?
Many virus protection software on the market doesn't know you're infected either.
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Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.09.22 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Vitamin B12 on 22/09/2010 19:34:48
Originally by: Omal Oma
Originally by: Vitamin B12
Originally by: Chuuuuy
You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
Why you think ADOBE brings security patches constantly? How you know you are not infected when you dont have antivirus software?
Many virus protection software on the market doesn't know you're infected either.
thats my point. sadly i didnt express myself right
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Dhaul
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.22 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Duvida
I do use an anti-virus product
Who the hell doesn't nowadays ?
People who use real operating systems 
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:16:00 -
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If you see anything out of the ordinary on any of our officially listed fansites please create a petition. We do review these sites often but sometimes something may pop up before it's their review time.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Zagdul
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.23 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chuuuuy
You can't get a virus or malware simply from viewing an advertisement so stop being so ignorant. Want to know what the best anti virus is? Common sense. I don't use an anti virus and I've never been infected before.
Quoting that you have confirmed you don't use common sense.
More seriously, many users... no, most users are ignorant to the fact that "viewing" an add won't infect them. It's the end user's actions after the ad appears which installs the virus on their computer.
This is why when someone asks me how they got infected and I give them the sad news they did it to themselves, they get insanly defensive. Blame the computer, or norton for not telling them that clicking [OK] 5 times to get rid of the popup thus installing that software would be bad.
anyone have that video of the help support guy who was playing halo and had to help the guy with his computer?
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