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Diosas
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:02:00 -
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why the hell is there these stupid 30 second timers everywhere! I have never ever seen these type of delays in any other MMO never mind any other game.. Oh sorry eve is different!
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Blnukem 192
Amarr
Impetar
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:03:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Brian Ballsack on 25/09/2010 13:10:29
I doubt he has much stuff tbh, seeing as though this is the first time he has experienced a server with 40k + players, playing on it.
You sometimes have to wait 30 seconds because this game has ALOT of players playing on it, not like WOW.
Also 30 seconds is not a long time to wait.
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Diosas
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Edited by: Brian Ballsack on 25/09/2010 13:10:29
I doubt he has much stuff tbh, seeing as though this is the first time he has experienced a server with 40k + players, playing on it.
You sometimes have to wait 30 seconds because this game has ALOT of players playing on it, not like WOW.
Also 30 seconds is not a long time to wait.
lol funny..."because it has a lot of players on it' best quote ever its going in my bio
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Lazarann
Ideal Machine
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:13:00 -
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Maybe so 30k+ people can't change ships every second all at once and make the server implode?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:14:00 -
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To make sure your client is synced up properly.
You wouldn't want to arrive outside a station in a ship without modules, or with -16777215 HP, now would you?
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Flynn Fetladral
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:14:00 -
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It also makes things more interesting in terms of game play. Like undocking / redocking instantly would make things even more boring for people camping station undocks. Same goes for when jumping through gates. It forces you to make a hard choice, instead of just running away like a little girl.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Diosas
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
Edited by: Brian Ballsack on 25/09/2010 13:10:29
I doubt he has much stuff tbh, seeing as though this is the first time he has experienced a server with 40k + players, playing on it.
You sometimes have to wait 30 seconds because this game has ALOT of players playing on it, not like WOW.
Also 30 seconds is not a long time to wait.
lol funny..."because it has a lot of players on it' best quote ever its going in my bio
yea, really funny,
which other MMO have you played on with over forty thousand people logged onto the same server ?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:20:00 -
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A long time ago one could get stuck between two gates. To help with that problem those timers where introduced. CCP has a long tradition of ignoring the root cause and creating a rather unconvinient workaround.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:21:00 -
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Apart from limiting server stress, they are there for a reason: Timers also prevent a lot of abuse of game mechanics such as docking and undocking repeatedly to avoid being killed in pvp while taking potshots at people outside, etc. Learn them and use them to your advantage. I saved my Apoc only two days ago by waiting for a gang to aggress me before I jumped through a gate, leaving them with a timer allowing me to safely warp off on the other side ^_^
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex
A long time ago one could get stuck between two gates. To help with that problem those timers where introduced. CCP has a long tradition of ignoring the root cause and creating a rather unconvinient workaround.
this more or less
just not only with jumping, happens on lots of occasions. entering fleets, changing ships, changing systems...
poor coding really, you don't do timer checks to solve these kind of issues...
I guess it was done a long time ago, when eve was just a bunch of student programmers thinking about ultima and elite. good times...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:38:00 -
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Sorry Scotty, the 2 min posting timer delayed me.
/c
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Usul Atreides
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:42:00 -
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Eve is like a woman - it constantly tells you to slow down and wait for it before you, er, reach your goal.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Atreides
Eve is like a woman - it constantly tells you to slow down and wait for it before you, er, reach your goal.
quoted in Holy Veldspar!
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Zagdul
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.25 14:06:00 -
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Somebody is a compound word.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.25 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul
Somebody is a compound word.
Maybe he's a necromancer or some kind of medium?
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Whelan Jr
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Posted - 2010.09.25 14:35:00 -
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There are two stations in Egglenaert relatively close by each other....if you leave one in a shuttle, immediately warp to the other, it won't let you dock 'cause it's still working on the undock timer from the other station.
Kinda' funny.
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Xyla Kador
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Posted - 2010.09.25 15:45:00 -
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this was asked several times b4
one of those times a dev popped up and said something like how EVE is made to run with dial-up connection and the 30 sec timers level the playing field, allowing the slower comps and connection time to catch up.
It also prevents u from changing states too quickly that might confuse the server. U dont wanna change from a inty to a BS only for the server to not register that u did it so fast and undocked and then u have ur inty blown up do u? :p
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Ringo Jeicha
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.25 16:36:00 -
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Is it that hard to spell out a 3-letter word?
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Aera Aiana
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Aera Aiana on 25/09/2010 18:11:38
Originally by: Tippia
To make sure your client is synced up properly.
You wouldn't want to arrive outside a station in a ship without modules, or with -16777215 HP, now would you?
That was valid before Stackless I/O. They used to have these extreme lag-spikes between nodes, which I believe was the stated reason for implementing a session change timer.
That issue has since been fixed, so the timer has probably been promoted to "working as intended", up from "crappy workaround".
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Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:16:00 -
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It's been said already, the session timers are there because of [funky code vs variable connection speed].
There's possibly room now to decrease the session timer down to 20 seconds, but as the (G)man said: "Prepare for unforseen consequences". |
Guffimur Rogidi
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Ballsack
which other MMO have you played on with over forty thousand people logged onto the same server ?
Star Trek Online.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 25/09/2010 18:52:04
Originally by: Guffimur Rogidi
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
which other good MMO have you played on with over forty thousand people logged onto the same server ?
None
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.25 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Guffimur Rogidi
Star Trek Online.
That game qualifies as an MMO? 
I thought it was an epic troll delivered via software to traumatize and swindle Star Trek fans.
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Shawshanke
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Posted - 2010.09.25 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Diosas
why the hell is there these stupid 30 second timers everywhere! I have never ever seen these type of delays in any other MMO never mind any other game.. Oh sorry eve is different!
Because EVE's programing is old buggy and crappy, but on the plus side the game is wall to wall fan boys who'll tell you this game is the equivalent of god's orgasm.
/angry emo rant
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