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Osiris Heart
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Posted - 2010.09.28 20:21:00 -
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Hi CCP,
All players in EVE can swap their character portraits in case to fix what is wrong in it, but nobody allowed fixing their character name.
I am sure there is a reason for that and I want to know it.
So, what is the reason?
 
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Tribunis Militum
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Posted - 2010.09.28 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tribunis Militum on 28/09/2010 20:23:29
wow that would be too easy... Imagine if you stole a **** ton of stuff...then changed your name. Thats why. I like the concept tho, just in practice it wouldn't be feasible.
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Devoyd
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.28 20:24:00 -
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Character names are unique identifiers, portraits are not.
Devoyd
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Minchurra
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.28 21:22:00 -
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If you ask nicely the GMs aren't above tweaking your name (Caps etc), kind of depends when the GM in question was last fed though.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.09.28 22:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Devoyd
Character names are unique identifiers, portraits are not.
I beg to differ:
http://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Char_AccountBalance_XML
apiKey char(64) Full access API key of account.
characterID int The character you are requesting data for.
userID int userID of account for authentication.
If char names were unique identifiers (which would be foolish considering eve is mostly a DB in the background) can you explain how the type of the characterID is INTEGER?
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Douglass Bryant
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Posted - 2010.09.28 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
I beg to differ:
http://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Char_AccountBalance_XML
apiKey char(64) Full access API key of account.
characterID int The character you are requesting data for.
userID int userID of account for authentication.
If char names were unique identifiers (which would be foolish considering eve is mostly a DB in the background) can you explain how the type of the characterID is INTEGER?
That's the silliest argument I've ever heard. In order to have a reliable and quick lookup to the character table (which contains characterName), you need a numeric key. Alpha based primary keys are a huge no-no. Of course it is an integer.
But you missed the point even further, because the poster was referring to the fact that your character name uniquely identifies you in game. It would be impossible to garner any trust from anyone if it was that simple to just change your name.
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Osiris Heart
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Posted - 2010.09.29 03:15:00 -
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People, about what you are talking?
No offence, but I was sure I don't have to explain such obvious things, but probably I was wrong and I am sorry about that...
Therefore, I am writing this comment just for explanation about what my question is.
CCP not allows changing (fixing) character names as character portraits.
I am sure, the fixing portraits allowed because of simple reason: it is no fun to kill character that has huge amount of skill points just because of lame portrait.
Nevertheless, if your character has lame name and huge amount of skills - you not allowed to fix it in the same way as you can do with the portraits.
By this, means, stealing your Tribunis Militum "can" with your ore and then changing my name that going to cost me about 10 - 30 Euros (real money of real world) is quite expensive to do it very often.
In addition, if you add me in your contacts with bad standings and on my character note, you will write something like "This ******* stole my ore. I have to kill him", then even if I change my name you will know what I have done with you and you will take appropriate actions against me. In this case, it is doesn't matter if my name were changed from "Osiris Heart" into "lovely ****head".
If we talking about name as unique, then nobody is calling to make available to duplicate existing names in the game. I am sure, if CCP would allow for as to change names, then only if it available in the game, but my point is - CCP does not allowing that.
Obviously, there is a reason why CCP doesn't allowing that and my question is: WHY?
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.29 04:02:00 -
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CCP doesn't actually give a flying **** whether name changes would let notorious characters enter a "witness protection program" of sorts, but players do care about such things, and CCP has to take the desires of the player base into consideration.
In addition, if name changes were officially allowed, people would be doing it constantly. Large numbers of people changing their names frequently probably WOULD create a lot of confusion in the game, and that's bad, too.
So it's easier on everyone if name changes simply aren't allowed. As stated, you might be able to get a small tweak to your name if you catch a GM in a good mood.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.29 04:09:00 -
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fairly sure its been stated, but ill restate it:
Your name is everything that matters in eve - your reputation. If you want to gain trust, that trust is almost always associated with the name. If chribba changed his name, would he still be chribba? No, he wouldnt. Frankly, the ability to change a players name undermines that reputation that characters can accrue. Thus, it will never happen.
And again, if you are lucky, and not too old a character, you could get a letter capitalized or a typo fixed, as long as its not too much of a change
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.09.29 05:40:00 -
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My only wish with regard to name changes would be that when purchasing a toon, you'd be permitted to redo the toon's identity...god knows if I took on a new body, I'd probably want a nose job and a new name so I didn't get shot for the crimes of the previous inhabiting soul.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.09.29 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cupio Mortem
My only wish with regard to name changes would be that when purchasing a toon, you'd be permitted to redo the toon's identity...god knows if I took on a new body, I'd probably want a nose job and a new name so I didn't get shot for the crimes of the previous inhabiting soul.
Yeah well that goes out of the window if you'd buy your self.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.09.29 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Serpents smile
Originally by: Cupio Mortem
My only wish with regard to name changes would be that when purchasing a toon, you'd be permitted to redo the toon's identity...god knows if I took on a new body, I'd probably want a nose job and a new name so I didn't get shot for the crimes of the previous inhabiting soul.
Yeah well that goes out of the window if you'd buy your self.
The value of that which pretty nil anyway tbfh...since you can right now still sell your existing toon (would fetch a higher price if it was notorious for something) and buy another toon of equal value as it is, if it comes down to needing to change identity...tell me you realize this?
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Zan Shiro
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Posted - 2010.09.29 06:11:00 -
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Bought toon....hate the name, don't buy it.
Stupid name you no longer like...don't make characters when drunk, stoned or having a stupid attack. Should have rerolled that first week when nothing major lost if you liked eve.
Techinical reason for no name change, lots of stuff pulls off that name. CCP to change a name would have to scrub the database top to bottom to break old links and make new ones. You have 10 contracts up and 200 market orders....each one has to be fixed with the new name. Or else you may not get paid from sales and overtime the database goes to crap with so many orphaned entities inside of it.
Case by case basis they could maybe do this. Problem is 1 becomes 100 becomes 1000. each change is a database scrub and consistency check. Time consuming process. Worth doing because some idiot thought eyeamghey be a cool name? Hell no.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.09.29 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zan Shiro
Bought toon....hate the name, don't buy it.
Stupid name you no longer like...don't make characters when drunk, stoned or having a stupid attack. Should have rerolled that first week when nothing major lost if you liked eve.
Techinical reason for no name change, lots of stuff pulls off that name. CCP to change a name would have to scrub the database top to bottom to break old links and make new ones. You have 10 contracts up and 200 market orders....each one has to be fixed with the new name. Or else you may not get paid from sales and overtime the database goes to crap with so many orphaned entities inside of it.
Case by case basis they could maybe do this. Problem is 1 becomes 100 becomes 1000. each change is a database scrub and consistency check. Time consuming process. Worth doing because some idiot thought eyeamghey be a cool name? Hell no.
Problem: outstanding transactions
Solution: "WARNING! ALL OUTSTANDING TRANSACTIONS WILL BE CANCELLED!"
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.29 06:36:00 -
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for the record, when you make a name link in chat, it has a numerical identifier..
[06:34:23] Lance Fighter > [06:33:58] Lance Fighter > <b><url=showinfo:1373//206506965>Lance Fighter</url></b>
Somehow, I doubt if CCP wanted to allow name changes, it would be a problem
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
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Posted - 2010.09.29 07:17:00 -
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Of course each player has its unique characterID, but wheras a machine has no problem to identify a toon by a number (database referential technical blah blah) people trust more in names.
People say, this guy is the most trustworthy in EVE: 196379789 but don't trust 196279789 he is a potential scammer.
And btw names are not unique. You can reuse the name of a biomassed character.
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Cupio Mortem
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Posted - 2010.09.29 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lutz Major
People say, this guy is the most trustworthy in EVE: 196379789 but don't trust 196279789 he is a potential scammer.
Yeah, F*** 196279789, that guy's a total douche.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari
Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.09.29 07:56:00 -
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name changes coming soon.
for the fee of $20 usd. ccp will allow name changes.
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Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
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Posted - 2010.09.29 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Psychotic Maniac
name changes coming soon.
for the fee of $20 usd. ccp will allow name changes.
Firestarter 
Proof or GTFO!
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.09.29 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Psychotic Maniac
name changes coming soon.
for the fee of $20 usd. ccp will allow name changes.
Excellent. Soon after we will be able to buy skill points I hear...
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.09.29 14:25:00 -
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They will never allow that.
And imo i think if someone is buying a char without investigating that the previous owner has scammed half new eden and will be hunted down for the next 100 years, he deserves dying over and over.
Actually this is what scammers and other dou**ebags do to be able to do their business without any losses. You should not be able to sell your "old" char, neither buying one. Biomass should be the only solution, living with the fact that you start with 0 skill points.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.09.29 15:14:00 -
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Quite why they don't just add an "AKA" tab to a char's info to reveal past identities, and allow name changes, escapes me.
There is still no hiding from past indiscretions, but you can change a name you no long like, or that contains numbers.
And, of course, charge a fee for the automated process involved.
Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.09.29 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tavin Aikisen on 29/09/2010 15:22:33
As much as I wanted to change my name of 2 years, I just had to suck it up and start fresh with a new character... at least now I won't have that nagging feeling. But for characters over 5 years or something...
I don't see why there can't just be a previous name tab in our info like previous employment.
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