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Couger 911	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:29:00 - [31] Originally by: Deadly Morph Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby Read the EULA. You are entitled to nothing... hahahahaha lol yea have you read inter-national law on providing a paid service.........guess not
Esharan Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:30:00 - [32] Edited by: Esharan on 30/09/2010 18:33:02 Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Esharan Do you guys think that by being huge suckups to the devs on the forums during downtimes you are going to get special treatment or something? I mean most of you all are so enamoured by these guys simply doing thier jobs its embarresing. Cry more and learn to spell if you are going to smack others. Oh gg. I spelt embarrassing wrong, good work on spotting typo's genius. You sir are pro! I remember when I had my first beer. Look at all my tears - p.s. I wonder if any of you posting "Read the EULA" have read it yourselves, or have even read my posts because again I have not demanded, or said I am entitled to anything - this thread started as purely speculation of the possibility of skill reimbursement, and you all have perverted into some sort of futile flaming. Again I suggest you all learn to read, and read entire posts before making snap judgements and running to defend your precious devs, when they weren't even under attack in the first place. I know most of you have prob been refreshing the EVE-O forums for the past 5 hours, and are pretty bored, but the rest of us have lives and are just checking in to see what is going on now.
Abaroth Charmar	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Esharan Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Esharan Do you guys think that by being huge suckups to the devs on the forums during downtimes you are going to get special treatment or something? I mean most of you all are so enamoured by these guys simply doing thier jobs its embarresing. Cry more and learn to spell if you are going to smack others. Oh gg. I spelt embarrassing wrong, good work on spotting typo's genius. You sir are pro! I remember when I had my first beer. Look at all my tears - FWIW, "typo's" shouldn't have an apostrophe. And there are a few commas missing.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Esharan Look at all my tears - It's hard not to to be honest. ~_~
Couger 911	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:33:00 - [35] LOL have any of you relised that the CCP arse kissers are nearly all Amarr pilots
Vorgdummychar	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:34:00 - [36] Just like someone pointed out in the other thread: What about all the time that downtime was already over after 30min instead of 1hour? Sum that up and it makes up the lost time from today, and you still have extra time you didnt pay for. Amazing, isnt it?
Iguanoid Caldari The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:35:00 - [37] Well they are hardly likely to be Gallente, those Frenchies would just shrug and go on eve strime in protest, blocking up gates on pipelines to jita and burning freighters full of cattle. --
Riho Gallente i Care.	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:36:00 - [38] Originally by: Esharan Edited by: Esharan on 30/09/2010 18:33:02 Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Esharan Do you guys think that by being huge suckups to the devs on the forums during downtimes you are going to get special treatment or something? I mean most of you all are so enamoured by these guys simply doing thier jobs its embarresing. Cry more and learn to spell if you are going to smack others. Oh gg. I spelt embarrassing wrong, good work on spotting typo's genius. You sir are pro! I remember when I had my first beer. Look at all my tears - p.s. I wonder if any of you posting "Read the EULA" have read it yourselves, or have even read my posts because again I have not demanded, or said I am entitled to anything - this thread started as purely speculation of the possibility of skill reimbursement, and you all have perverted into some sort of futile flaming. Again I suggest you all learn to read, and read entire posts before making snap judgements and running to defend your precious devs, when they weren't even under attack in the first place. I know most of you have prob been refreshing the EVE-O forums for the past 5 hours, and are pretty bored, but the rest of us have lives and are just checking in to see what is going on now. i cant stop F5ing.... its like really hard.... i mean if i stop.. i think ill die because my life will be over... like... okay ? ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
Couger 911	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Vorgdummychar Just like someone pointed out in the other thread: What about all the time that downtime was already over after 30min instead of 1hour? Sum that up and it makes up the lost time from today, and you still have extra time you didnt pay for. Amazing, isnt it? not all of us sit at comp gazing at Down screen scratching nut sack and sniffing fingers waiting for the extra 20mins free, its stated as 1hr DT, if it comes up before that, thats there proublem.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:38:00 - [40] Originally by: Couger 911 not all of us sit at comp gazing at Down screen scratching nut sack and sniffing fingers waiting for the extra 20mins free, its stated as 1hr DT, if it comes up before that, thats there proublem. But some of us do, god damn it. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Esharan Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:42:00 - [41] <3 the eve-o community - bunch of 12-16 year old children and 30-50 year old jobless virgins expressing thier anger. Always good for a laugh. please continue to entertain me.
TGO	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:43:00 - [42] While i realize we're not entitled to any additional skill points... What would it hurt? Someone needs to explain the downside of compensating players during unexpected downtime in a way that's absolutely free to CCP, and doesn't unbalance or harm the game in any way.
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:49:00 - [43] Originally by: TGO While i realize we're not entitled to any additional skill points... What would it hurt? Someone needs to explain the downside of compensating players during unexpected downtime in a way that's absolutely free to CCP, and doesn't unbalance or harm the game in any way. Because it doesn't matter. There are lots of game issues that need addressing - this isn't one of them. We all lose a few hours of training time, sometimes stretching to years. Non-issue. ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------
Zverofaust Gallente Locus Industries	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:49:00 - [44] I'd like some SP please. ___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara
Dawn Black	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:53:00 - [45] If you don't get it, you mad ?
Riho Gallente i Care.	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Esharan <3 the eve-o community - bunch of 12-16 year old children and 30-50 year old jobless virgins expressing thier anger. Always good for a laugh. please continue to entertain me. confirming im a 30 year old virgin living in my moms basement.... ps im fat and unemployed. ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
Akicho Darkspace	Posted - 2010.09.30 18:56:00 - [47] Originally by: Zverofaust I'd like some SP please. I second this
TGO	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Gloria Stitz Originally by: TGO While i realize we're not entitled to any additional skill points... What would it hurt? Someone needs to explain the downside of compensating players during unexpected downtime in a way that's absolutely free to CCP, and doesn't unbalance or harm the game in any way. Because it doesn't matter. There are lots of game issues that need addressing - this isn't one of them. We all lose a few hours of training time, sometimes stretching to years. Non-issue. That would make sense if this was somthing that required development time. A tool has been developed to distribute skill points, utilizing i is an administrative task that wouldn't take any time away from anything else in the game. So the choice isn't; Free skill points or bug fixes... It's as simple as free skill points or no free skill points. So again i ask.. what's the harm?
Ataxis	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:19:00 - [49] Originally by: Esharan p.s. I wonder if any of you posting "Read the EULA" have read it yourselves, or have even read my posts because again I have not demanded, or said I am entitled to anything - this thread started as purely speculation of the possibility of skill reimbursement, and you all have perverted into some sort of futile flaming. Again I suggest you all learn to read, and read entire posts before making snap judgements and running to defend your precious devs, when they weren't even under attack in the first place. bravo on your choice of words... btw, just for future reference, to make sure this sort of "confusion" doesn't happen again... there's a big difference between a direct quote, and an implication... while yes, you sure are right that you didn't demand, nor stated any entitlement, towards anything....you sure as hell implied some level of entitlement... your exact words -> Originally by: Esharan I pay for a service, I expect it to be delivered - no I am not ungrateful, and no I don't think skill reimbursement is beyond the scope of possibility again considering there is precedent. that, good sir, is implying that you are owed something due to unforeseen circumstances... in other words... quit implying entitlement, and quit crying --j
Rutefly Amarr Freedom-Technologies Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:22:00 - [50] Don't really care much how many hours EVE is down for patching. What does annoy me is to get back for another pushed deadline, over and over again. Of course if EVE was down for weeks/months, I would just stop subscribing. If the deadlines for patching always fail by this far (hundreds of percent, even up to 9000), why not just accept it, learn from your mistakes, and go for a more reasonable down time to begin with. If its tech being scared ****-less about loosing jobs if they tell management the truth, then its another ballgame all together, and we understand and sympathize.
Pesky LaRue The Magnificent Bastards	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Esharan <3 the eve-o community - bunch of 12-16 year old children and 30-50 year old jobless virgins expressing thier anger. Always good for a laugh. So, you're in the 30-50 year old category? Just going on the basis of your posts, that is. .
Pesky LaRue The Magnificent Bastards	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:39:00 - [52] Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 30/09/2010 19:40:44 Originally by: TGO Originally by: Gloria Stitz Originally by: TGO While i realize we're not entitled to any additional skill points... What would it hurt? Someone needs to explain the downside of compensating players during unexpected downtime in a way that's absolutely free to CCP, and doesn't unbalance or harm the game in any way. Because it doesn't matter. There are lots of game issues that need addressing - this isn't one of them. We all lose a few hours of training time, sometimes stretching to years. Non-issue. That would make sense if this was somthing that required development time. A tool has been developed to distribute skill points, utilizing i is an administrative task that wouldn't take any time away from anything else in the game. So the choice isn't; Free skill points or bug fixes... It's as simple as free skill points or no free skill points. So again i ask.. what's the harm? because it sets a very bad precedent. anyone here that's been a parent will know that placating/bribing a child for an easy life just leads to more headaches. If you want your kid to learn to tidy their room and have to bribe them with a cookie each time, eventually the kid won't understand why they don't get a cookie every damn time and will start to think that there's no need to clean the room as they didn't get their cookie. CCP really screwed the pooch last time and so they gave a SP gift for an unacceptably long downtime and subsequent problems. Ok, so today we're down for a couple of hours more than planned, really no big deal in the larger picture - so if they give out SP for this too, then pretty soon the forums will be (even more) filled with people requesting/demanding free SP because downtime was 20 minutes longer than expected. You may not see the harm, but it's there. Oh, and for good measure, here's the EULA we all agree to in order to play EvE but which so few people ever read. Emphasis provided for those still missing the point. Quote: NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. To summarize - no one is entitled to anything for a long DT. CCP might decide to give free SP occasionally to those that lose in excess of a day, but that's their choice - not YOUR right. .
Nerodon Gallente Darkwave Technologies Blade.	Posted - 2010.09.30 19:57:00 - [53] Edited by: Nerodon on 30/09/2010 19:59:19 Originally by: Pesky LaRue To summarize - no one is entitled to anything for a long DT. CCP might decide to give free SP occasionally to those that lose in excess of a day, but that's their choice - not YOUR right. you sir are quite correct... Now to those that want the SP, what would 25k SP do in your life anyway? This post is quite ridiculous. Also, think about it! What's a few hours of you life worth anyways, can't you find something else to do??? I mean, what would happen if TQ server caught fire and burned at the same time that a meteorite crashed on CPP HQ, the game COULD die at any moment for any reason. This isn't a post about having lost game time... people just want freebies and are simply going to far to get a few dimes worth.
Jenny Hawk State War Academy	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:00:00 - [54] Edited by: Jenny Hawk on 30/09/2010 20:03:41 ------------ I would appreciate every extra SP! I love presents!!!
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:28:00 - [55] Originally by: Esharan <3 the eve-o community - bunch of 12-16 year old children and 30-50 year old jobless virgins expressing thier anger. Always good for a laugh. please continue to entertain me. Oh this is fun, I am gonna wager that you are a 30-50 year old jobless virgin! Also CCP doesn't give me enough etheir, down time was to long gimme a Polaris! -- Fine Mag's no Purple ok! But I am the Snyper Queen!
Veilag	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:32:00 - [56] Originally by: Esharan Will we be recieving skill reimbursement for this greatly over-extended downtime as we did the last time? Thanks. Forget about any reimbursement until the next update puts right everything that this update has destroyed.
Jep Ebrilo Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:38:00 - [57] i.Thought,That?thier,was.To!many?Gramer"Pollice!so.I, Made, Sure, to, Make/? my^ post\ Gramaticaly. Full. And no you shouldnt get free Sp i havent played in a week and i knoew that i needed to log in and set a long skill yesterday so should you have.
Eckstacy	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:40:00 - [58] I want some taquitos.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:41:00 - [59] Originally by: Eckstacy I want some taquitos. Good idea... just went and got some. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
flummox Jupiter Ignition Project	Posted - 2010.09.30 20:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Esharan Will we be recieving skill reimbursement for this greatly over-extended downtime as we did the last time? Thanks. please explain how the DT caused you to need a reimbursement. skill training persists through downtimes, unless something changed. any skill training lost is due to User Error... aroo

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