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SickSeven
Simplistic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: SickSeven on 30/09/2010 23:56:04
I am simply proposing that the CSM ask CCP to look at the current role and balance of Dreadnaughts in EVE.
The are multiple threads discussing the issue.
HP Boost for Caps thread
Balance for Dreads
Nag needs more DPS
Not all of these threads necessarily directly discuss the issues of dreads in the OP but dreads and their roles and problems eventually come up.
This is not to discuss or argue about Super Carriers. This is simply to acknowledge that Dreads currently, are screwed. Their roles are filled by something else or just non existent, or just plain not worth the isk to fill to the role. If you would like the CSM to push for a review of Dreadnaughts as they are in the current game, please support. (also I will be happy to add any other relevant threads to the list).
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:55:00 -
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i would leave out the chic proposal. it is crap and not much related to dreads at all.
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SickSeven
Simplistic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:56:00 -
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Done.
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Viribus
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.01 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Viribus on 01/10/2010 02:11:25
Supercapitals in general are broken as hell and are really the only relevant thing in sov warfare, to the exclusion of all other players. This includes Dread pilots.
Dreads are pretty well worthless at the mo because a sieged dreadnaught can't defend itself from other ships. Nor should they, but sieging pretty much begets an inevitable hotdrop at this point. This is what I would do to rebalance things a bit, but then again I'm not too bright:
- Instead of Siege Mods having a 10-minute timer using 500 stront, give them a 1-minute timer using 50 stront or something. This still leaves them vulnerable to fast-moving ahacs and stuff but gives them a chance to boogie if supercaps show up.
- Give the Nag some more damage, seriously.
- Introduce a T2 cruiser or battlecruiser hull with a specialized weapon that launches compact citadel torps. This would have its own skillbook with a relatively low multiplier so T2 cruiser pilots wouldn't have to train capital weapons for a niche ship. Such a ship should be able to top ~1000 DPS or more against supercapitals but be massively penalized by explosion radius and velocity, leaving it more or less useless against subcaps.
This would be a relatively low-SP and low-cost counter to supercapitals, necessitating a strong support fleet for supercarriers. No more 20-Nyx-and-1-Onyx hotdrop fleets.
This would probably introduce a whole slew of other balance problems but at least it would give the ~99.9% of EVE that doesn't own a supercap a place in sov warfare again.
Dreads are for sieging towers and sieging towers only, and an across-the-board boost to HP in an already horrendously over-tanked game isn't the answer.
Though utility slots on dreads for smartbombs would be nice. Perhaps a Capital Smartbomb module, with a range that will catch Fighter-Bombers but not HACs or BS?
It's worth thinking about. Actually, thinking about it is all that will happen, since :ccp:
PS: Yeah I know you said this wasn't about Supercaps but since they're the main reason no one sees dreads anymore they need to be considered if Dreads are to become relevant again.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.10.01 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 01/10/2010 17:33:15
Super carriers are cost prohibitive enough that they really haven't replaced dreads. POSs are still shot at with dreads (with super caps on standby).
People who complain about super carriers usually are the ones that swagger around low sec with small gangs shooting solo ships then cry "blob" when any group larger than them gets annoyed and hits their little camp.
If it is done with a fleet of rifters, there are threads crying for nerfing rifters. If it is done with a carrier, there are threads crying that caps shouldn't be allowed in low sec. If it is done with a super carrier, there are super carrier nerf threads.
That said, I won't complain about boosts to dreads. I don't think they are needed though.
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