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kenxi	Posted - 2010.10.02 22:15:00 - [1] I'm really at a loss here i have a constant frame rate drop going on about every second ill go from 50fps to about 29-30 which is causing an unbearable glitch does anyone have an idea im running 8gb ddr3 ram with a quad core amd at 3.ghz with a 5760 ati video card with 1 gb ddr5 ram. I just reinstalled windows which seemed to help. Are the new ati drivers not supported yet?
Datdaar Vanmestvaalt Gallente	Posted - 2010.10.02 22:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Datdaar Vanmestvaalt on 02/10/2010 22:41:16 Originally by: kenxi I'm really at a loss here i have a constant frame rate drop going on about every second ill go from 50fps to about 29-30 which is causing an unbearable glitch does anyone have an idea im running 8gb ddr3 ram with a quad core amd at 3.ghz with a 5760 ati video card with 1 gb ddr5 ram. I just reinstalled windows which seemed to help. Are the new ati drivers not supported yet? As long as I have played EvE, I have encountered this bug. On and of, a couple of times each month or so. My fps drops from 30 to zero, each second. The only workable solution/workaround I have found is log off (by pressing CTRL/Q) and manually starting the game again. Then its gone. For a while. Because my PC is way inferior) to yours I don't think your system is to blame. I think it's an obscure bug. I'm not surprised when my system can't cope or grinds to a halt, graphics wise or totally. But yours? Yours seems a bit more modern. )Proud owner of an AMD atlon 64 2,2 Ghz, 2 Gb ddr2, Nvidea 7600GT, Frankenstein machine.....
Mrs Mistofelees	Posted - 2010.10.03 13:15:00 - [3] i have a similar issue using ATI card (HD 2600 PRO)(6gb ddr2 800 ram, 2.6ghz dual core) my mouse frame rate is very poor, so poor in fact that i can only see where my mouse is in game is if i move it veeeeeeeery slowly, by which time if i were to be mid-mish i would be dead... the FPS for viewing PI, in-station, fitting etc is affected too... having read the mention of ATI driver issue? any ideas/help appreciated. (up until a few weeks ago EVE played fine)
Toovhon	Posted - 2010.10.04 18:57:00 - [4] once again forced to login twice just to be able to post I too suffer FPS drops once a second, every second, beginning at a random interval (though often within 15 - 30 mins, frustratingly) after launching Eve, and temporarily cured by restarting Eve. Here is a screenshot showing the FPS monitor near-bottom left - note the vertical dashes showing the stuttering. I also have an ATI card - a Radeon 2600 HD Pro in a mid-24" 2.8GHz iMac. I get the stuttering running Eve both in OSX 10.5.8 and Windows XP Pro (using Boot Camp to boot natively into Windows on my Mac). It has persisted since I began playing Eve, and through reinstalls of Eve and manual deletion of caches and all settings in both OSX and Windows. No other apps (and I play a lot of other 3D games) in either OSX or WinXP are affected, even while Eve is running and glitching (I've actually run Quake 3 and WoW while Eve is glitching just to see). CPU, disk, memory and network monitors in OSX and WinXP show nothing untoward either that could be affecting Eve. So I strongly suspect Eve has an issue with some ATI cards. CCP's GM I've been dealing with has blamed Apple (who maintain the drivers for the ATI card and built-in iMac display in OSX and WinXP), but I keep coming back to only Eve being affected. How is it that every other MMO and 3D app I've run avoids this issue, if Apple's drivers are buggy? And then I find threads like this with non-Apple users affected, so it seems more and more likely to be an issue with how Eve handles ATI cards. -- Frog blast the vent core!
Mrs Mistofelees	Posted - 2010.10.05 19:10:00 - [5] thanks for your post! glad i'm not alone with exactly the same ATI card. i;m going to try rolling back the ATI catalyst software to an older version to see if that has any impact, but you;re right, any other app/ game etc does not have any issues apart from EVE!
Mrs Mistofelees	Posted - 2010.10.05 20:10:00 - [6] OK so the CCC and drivers updated to most recent (v 10.9 CCC) and ran the FPS monitor (ctrl, ****, alt +m?) the FPS if I don't left click and move mouse tops out at 100fps. when I just move my mouse it drops to average of 4fps, the mouse pointer fades out unless i move it very slowly AKA - unplayable! i gladly await any more info from anyone with ATI driver issues (win7 ULT x64 edition)
Toovhon	Posted - 2010.10.06 11:17:00 - [7] Originally by: Mrs Mistofelees OK so the CCC and drivers updated to most recent (v 10.9 CCC) and ran the FPS monitor (ctrl, ***, alt +m?) the FPS if I don't left click and move mouse tops out at 100fps. when I just move my mouse it drops to average of 4fps, the mouse pointer fades out unless i move it very slowly AKA - unplayable! i gladly await any more info from anyone with ATI driver issues (win7 ULT x64 edition) OMG, and I thought I had it bad with Eve and ATI. If I had the above happen every time I moused in Eve I'd be a lot* less self controlled than you. -- Frog blast the vent core!
Mrs Mistofelees	Posted - 2010.10.08 12:56:00 - [8] self controlled on the surface, absolutely mad underneath...... don't see why i should buy a new GFX (would try NVid) as EVE worked fine with my current GFX til last month..
Mrs Mistofelees	Posted - 2010.10.08 16:06:00 - [9] ok, think i take it all back - a tip for anyone else with ATI issues who also run STEAM - use the steam updater to update GFX drivers - my EVE is now running fine :)
Toovhon	Posted - 2010.10.08 17:15:00 - [10] Well I'm glad someone has got this sorted :-) But my drivers are up to date (double and triple checked - I've not just left it up to automatic updates), and I've had to restart Eve 12 times today to get rid of stuttering as it begins. If I could I'd actually buy a new Mac with an Nvidia card to run both OSX and Windows games on, or even just a PC as second computer to play Eve on, at this point. But I can't afford it and like you above - I can't see why I should have to shell out thousands of dollars to run Eve well when I already have a machine that exceeds minimum specs by a decent margin on every count. Especially as it's a Mac. I'm not being arrogant saying that. It's just that as Mac it's one of a very limited number of hardware configs (there are very few Mac models compared to the thousands of different PC configs), so testing ought to have been a piece of cake for CCP. This problem is - I think you and everyone else who suffers it will agree - really obvious, so either CCP did bugger all testing, or they know about the bug and won't or don't know how to solve it. Either way it's very frustrating. But I don't begrudge your victory! I just hope my fortune also changes :-) -- Frog blast the vent core!

Toovhon	Posted - 2010.10.10 04:52:00 - [11] restarts Eve for 47th time today (clearly I have no good sense or I'd have just quit and played any other game - all of which work fine) This is becoming painful to the point where I wonder WTF I bother. Will things ever get any better without spending thousands of dollars for a different machine without an ATI card? I used to hope so. But it's been many months since I started playing Eve and foolishly persisted despite this crap. I'd be a happier person today if I'd not got into Eve, I think :-\ The fact I'm publicly whinging (and I'm aware it's not exactly endearing when someone is reduced to this) should be a sign I need to do something drastic. Sadly all I can afford right now is to change MMOs sigh -- Frog blast the vent core!
Bok Aeden	Posted - 2010.10.20 00:56:00 - [12] I really hope this helps someone here because I had a similar problem running 2 clients on 2 screens with an ATI 5700 and learning this trick saved me! We're doing two things here: setting interval to immediate and assigning an Eve instance to a specific display adapter from the in-game menu. Perform each step on each screen. 1) Log in to both accounts and put them on their respective screens. 2) Press escape to bring up the menu 3) Select the Display & Graphics tab 4) Make sure the "Advanced Settings" box is checked 5) Make sure the client running on Monitor 1 is using Display Adapter 1 and that monitor 2 is using Display Adapter 2 6) Change "Present Interval" to "Interval Immediate" 7) Apply the changes, press escape, and test your frame rate with Ctrl-F If your problem was the same as mine then you should be golden. You may have to change your display adapter settings everytime you log in because Eve only remembers the settings for the last account that was active. Drop me a line in-game if it helped, I'd like to know!
Toovhon	Posted - 2010.10.21 10:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Bok Aeden I really hope this helps someone here because I had a similar problem running 2 clients on 2 screens with an ATI 5700 and learning this trick saved me! We're doing two things here: setting interval to immediate and assigning an Eve instance to a specific display adapter from the in-game menu. Perform each step on each screen. Sorry, we must have a different problem. My copy of Eve still started stuttering, and almost immediately this time. But I appreciate your response :-) Hopefully this will help someone else, but I suspect my issue will only be fixed when CCP actually tests Eve on this model Mac and realises it runs like crap. Or maybe they'll never care shrug -- Frog blast the vent core!


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