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Jesus Rambo
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
47
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:28:00 -
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I've found a bit of a problem with the design of the Gallente Logistics Station, such as the one in 5ZXX-K.
The long axis of the station is 71km. The diameter of the rings look to be roughly half of that, so say 35km. The radius of the ring, therefore, is roughly 15-18km.
The station rings rotate at 2/3 RPM, with a rotation cycle of exactly a minute and a half.
Centrifugal acceleration is calculated through w^2*r, where w is the angular speed of the object, and r is the radius.
Centrifugal force, the fictitious force pushing outwards from the center of rotation that is what causes the apparent gravity on rotating rings, is the equal opposite of the centrifugal acceleration.
The centrifugal force of this station, therefore, lies at roughly 7 - 8 G (72-83m/s2).
Any human would black out much before that, and supposedly people are walking around and living on these?
Please help me point out to CCP this heinous flaunting of physics. |
Arri Minmaru
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
1
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Posted - 2012.08.02 03:33:00 -
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+1
The frail constitution of the general Gallente population would indeed not be at all condusive to such gravity.
Is the outer ring perhaps limited only to extreme pod pilots with all Navi to 5 and odd strength training experiments.. |
Ricardo Aguti
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:19:00 -
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pfft next you'll be telling me that the force of my engines engines causes acceleration rather than velocity |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
NightSong Directorate
38
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:30:00 -
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Like the rebels they are CCP believes all rules, even the rules of physics are meant to be broken. |
Charlemeign
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:40:00 -
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This is literally causing millions of deaths in Africa per year. |
Botchla Lazzaro
Hammer Holding
Grand Stellar Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:47:00 -
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But travelling multiple times the speed of light is ok, maybe the same hidden technology is applied . |
A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
23
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Posted - 2012.08.02 04:52:00 -
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I want to know where the gravity in my nice, perfectly still Caldari stations are coming from. But every time I get out to walk around there I am stuck to the floor. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1169
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:06:00 -
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We have FTL travel, and perfect cloaks. I think a little antigrav is rather simple. |
Jesus Rambo
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
50
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:26:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:We have FTL travel, and perfect cloaks. I think a little antigrav is rather simple.
Sure, antigrav is simple enough.
But then why spin the rings at all? If we have artificial gravity, just use that instead. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
13
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Posted - 2012.08.02 05:33:00 -
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Jesus Rambo wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:We have FTL travel, and perfect cloaks. I think a little antigrav is rather simple. Sure, antigrav is simple enough. But then why spin the rings at all?
For Science.
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Janet Patton
Brony Express
31
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:07:00 -
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I think you been ship spinning to much.
Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |
Ashen Darksabre
Mimidae Risk Solutions
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
2
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:09:00 -
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Jesus Rambo wrote:I've found a bit of a problem with the design of the Gallente Logistics Station, such as the one in 5ZXX-K.
The long axis of the station is 71km. The diameter of the rings look to be roughly half of that, so say 35km. The radius of the ring, therefore, is roughly 15-18km.
The station rings rotate at 2/3 RPM, with a rotation cycle of exactly a minute and a half.
Centrifugal acceleration is calculated through w^2*r, where w is the angular speed of the object, and r is the radius.
Centrifugal force, the fictitious force pushing outwards from the center of rotation that is what causes the apparent gravity on rotating rings, is the equal opposite of the centrifugal acceleration.
The centrifugal force of this station, therefore, lies at roughly 7 - 8 G (72-83m/s2).
Any human would black out much before that, and supposedly people are walking around and living on these?
Please help me point out to CCP this heinous flaunting of physics.
Haven't you ever heard of an inertial compensator? |
Jesus Rambo
Tri-gun
Lost Obsession
50
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:13:00 -
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Ashen Darksabre wrote:Jesus Rambo wrote:I've found a bit of a problem with the design of the Gallente Logistics Station, such as the one in 5ZXX-K.
The long axis of the station is 71km. The diameter of the rings look to be roughly half of that, so say 35km. The radius of the ring, therefore, is roughly 15-18km.
The station rings rotate at 2/3 RPM, with a rotation cycle of exactly a minute and a half.
Centrifugal acceleration is calculated through w^2*r, where w is the angular speed of the object, and r is the radius.
Centrifugal force, the fictitious force pushing outwards from the center of rotation that is what causes the apparent gravity on rotating rings, is the equal opposite of the centrifugal acceleration.
The centrifugal force of this station, therefore, lies at roughly 7 - 8 G (72-83m/s2).
Any human would black out much before that, and supposedly people are walking around and living on these?
Please help me point out to CCP this heinous flaunting of physics. Haven't you ever heard of an inertial compensator?
Like I said above - sure, we theoretically have the technology. But why spin it up in the first place, if you're just going to use extra energy to cancel out the effect anyways? |
Martin0
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:20:00 -
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Because it looks COOL |
A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
23
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:21:00 -
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So the dealership can make a profit on the optional bells and whistles. |
Sigras
Conglomo
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
137
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:26:00 -
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The rotation is the Gallentean method of mixing the Bio-Mimetic Gel from which clones are made. It must be kept in a constant state of churning and never allowed to settle. The Gallenteans figured that the easiest way to do that on a large scale would be to rotate the entire section of the station and use inertial dampers for the populated compartments. |
Kitt JT
League of Non-Aligned Worlds
Nulli Secunda
53
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Posted - 2012.08.02 06:44:00 -
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Probably the same reason why all of the sudden, all titans in the game were inexplicably unable to activate their doomsdays on subcapitals. |
Astald Ohtar
L'AGENCE
Yulai Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.02 11:16:00 -
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And accelerating to 3 AUs? how much G is that?  |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
356
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Posted - 2012.08.02 11:23:00 -
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I think that's where they installed their scientific experiments to study the effects of prolonged exposure to 7-8g's of gravity on things. |
Alli Othman
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
27
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Posted - 2012.08.02 11:24:00 -
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Shut up and take my Likes. |
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Boris Lachenkov
Kaesong Kosmonauts
Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2012.08.02 12:12:00 -
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Astald Ohtar wrote:And accelerating to 3 AUs? how much G is that?
None. We aren't accelerating, we're accelerating the local spacetime fabric to facilitate 'movement'.
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Godfrey Silvarna
Stargates and Smuggler Barons
26
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Posted - 2012.08.02 12:29:00 -
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I am a physicist. I saved my sanity by shutting down my brain every time I try to think about eve and physics. I recommend all of you in this thread to stop while you still can, turn away, and never look back. |
Lou Cypher
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
5
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Posted - 2012.08.02 12:43:00 -
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Jesus Rambo wrote:...such as the one in 5ZXX-K.
c .. 8.5 G
Reason - counteract the "spinning" sensation of heavy Alcohol enjoyment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LmCbRPdd0Q
We ( Mordus Angels) sometimes let a tub or two of water loose in the "loops" , and crank it up a G or two
for some epic station surfing.
Surfboards easily made of Minmitar "wing" parts.
:D
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Astald Ohtar
L'AGENCE
Yulai Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.02 13:24:00 -
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Boris Lachenkov wrote:Astald Ohtar wrote:And accelerating to 3 AUs? how much G is that? None. We aren't accelerating, we're accelerating the local spacetime fabric to facilitate 'movement'.
And your dramiel pilot reaching 7k m/s in a couple secs ? |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
470
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Posted - 2012.08.02 14:00:00 -
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Lou Cypher wrote:Jesus Rambo wrote:...such as the one in 5ZXX-K.
c .. 8.5 G Reason - counteract the "spinning" sensation of heavy Alcohol enjoyment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LmCbRPdd0QWe ( Mordus Angels) sometimes let a tub of water loose in the "loops" , and crank it up a G or two for some epic station surfing. Surfboards easily made of Minmitar "wing" parts. :D
Dang it Lou, now the waves are gonna be crowded...
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
PinkKnife
Noir. Academy
Noir. Mercenary Group
182
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Posted - 2012.08.02 16:30:00 -
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You think eve is in space, there's your problem.
EVE is underwater, it is the only way it makes sense.
space-water. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
877
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Posted - 2012.08.02 17:22:00 -
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Ever hear of the 5-g chickens?
Someone wanted to study the effects of low gravity on the development of animals. But getting low gravity for long periods is quite expensive (must be in space). But getting increased gravity is easy, just use a centrifuge.
So they put some chicken eggs in a 5-g centrifuge and grew them to adulthood. They had smaller upper bodies and very thick legs, but seems to be just fine. They were quite strong for chickens due to the need to cope with their environment.
So obviously those lower, high g areas are for growing super soldiers for ground troops.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:32:00 -
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In CCP's grand quest to create the largest "Space Simulator" they overlooked a pretty significant detail.
And this station in question... Is it in orbit around a planet? Is that planet in orbit around, say, a star? |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2098
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:57:00 -
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Wait...don't we have artificial gravity?
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2098
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:58:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:You think eve is in space, there's your problem.
EVE is underwater, it is the only way it makes sense.
space-water.
New Eden isn't another star cluster, it's a pocket universe with its own laws of physics.
That would actually explain a lot.
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
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