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Krathos Morpheus Legion Infernal	Posted - 2010.10.10 23:54:00 - [31] 600 million ISK sent
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2010.10.11 11:49:00 - [32] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha there's a possibility the Investee is organizing some fireworks scam a la Bad Bobby, where he boldly proclaims how people invested even when his name really gave it out. The Auditor COULD _NOT_ FIND objective and irrefutable PROOFS to _DIS_PROVE this suspicion I can not really understand why you do rate this investment 'medium to something' risk instead of plain and simple "high risk", other than being personally involved in a non-neutral position. A chance to loose 50%-100% of investment doesn't look like medium risk to me. What's your benefit of "auditing" ISK-wise? do you get paid for by the Investee? Or is your plan to build up a long time record of "flawless" audits to make "gained trust" pay for itself some day in the future? Can you, Vaerah Varokha, proove in any way you are not an alt of Bad Bobby?
Da Trader	Posted - 2010.10.11 11:56:00 - [33] I want the remaining 10 shares
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.10.11 12:29:00 - [34] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 11/10/2010 12:34:28 Quote: I can not really understand why you do rate this investment 'medium to something' risk instead of plain and simple "high risk", other than being personally involved in a non-neutral position. - continued succesful public investments delivered by Investee - small size: conservative vs Investee NAV - small size: well below what would be considered "worth scamming for" - twelve characters that risk being made public (in case of scam), 4 of them are years and years old. Some are / were key elements in a 0.0 alliance. It's somewhat unhealthy to have all of this disclosed for the asked amount, isn't it? - not full but quite relevant collateral provided - business strategy not involving hauling of stock and the Investee has deep knowledge of PvP enough to cope anyway. - Investee gets above-than-average returns and stock does not cover current speculative items. Quote: other than being personally involved in a non-neutral position Every audit I post since a long time has been paid regardless of what I say, which is immutable until the Investee decided to implement a better plan. To have me decide to change a line, the Investee must follow certain guidelines, i.e. start providing collateral, add an exit strategy and so on. Quote: What's your benefit of "auditing" ISK-wise? do you get paid for by the Investee? Benefits are a partial refund on my spent time, starting from 30M to 45M per audited account (depends mostly on characters age and posts count) If the above sums up to beyond a certain amount of 50M I will also provide basic collateral holding for free. I get paid for by Investee. To date IIRC I have never been paid by other parties, like i.e. the Auditing fund. This is the same behavior (often with much higher fees) exhibited by other auditors. Quote: Or is your plan to build up a long time record of "flawless" audits to make "gained trust" pay for itself some day in the future? Those epic scammers are PR geniuses, build up general sympathy, a feeling of safety when dealing with them, tend to try and rise to "MD Elites", start several nice and profitable and paid on time bonds that "happen" to step up over time. Now, I have the same PR skills of Shar (read: be spit in face by every random I meet), I am emphatic like a pointy dung brick stuck in your colon, I never stop being questioned about everything I do, I litigated with all of the MD Elites plus one and I feel insulted if someone tries classify me as one. I have yet to start _1_ investment (have had 2 loans). Need to say more? Quote: Can you, Vaerah Varokha, proove in any way you are not an alt of Bad Bobby? Can you prove you are not? If so, please do it, so I learn how to prove it myself. PS. if you have further questions please post them in another thread or email, I don't want to ruin someone else's thread. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.10.11 14:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Da Trader I want the remaining 10 shares Seems I forgot to update the shares available, and all are reserved & paid. Because it was my mistake, if you wish to have 10, i will add you and run the bond with 1010 total. Send the Isk to me when you get a chance. SH
Lederstrumpf	Posted - 2010.10.11 14:37:00 - [36] Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 11/10/2010 14:38:12 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha if you have further questions please post them in another thread or email, I don't want to ruin someone else's thread To use your words: Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha There has been a basic error which would have lead to the scam to succeed sooner or later. Everyone (involved) believed in BB's trustworthiness. Everything was made to fit on this assumption So everyone in here believes in VV's trustworthiness? Because you believe in SH's trustworthiness? That'd be a basic error which could lead to some scam to succeed sooner or LATER, right? Some guy with 12 alts who's a key element in a 0.0 alliance in "real EVE live" "hires" a "poor" Vaerah Vahrokha to do some audit on some successive minor billion investments, right? This is not reason to raise any suspicion on auditor side, no? Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Originally by: Lederstrumpf Or is your plan to build up a long time record of "flawless" audits to make "gained trust" pay for itself some day in the future? Those epic scammers are PR geniuses, build up general sympathy, a feeling of safety when dealing with them, tend to try and rise to "MD Elites", start several nice and profitable and paid on time bonds that "happen" to step up over time. It's interesting that you're answering beginning with "those scammers" when getting asked about _your_ plan. Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Originally by: Lederstrumpf Can you, Vaerah Varokha, proove in any way you are not an alt of Bad Bobby? Can you prove you are not? Nope. But serious neutral auditors could go publish their real life identities. And don't try to point at me with a finger now, as I do neither audits nor vouch for anybody in here.
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.10.11 14:39:00 - [37] Dear Investors Thank you for investing in the SHSG Premium Bond. This bond begins running today Monday Oct 10th, and runs until Friday Dec 10th. Interest Payments are due Tuesday Nov 9th @ 4%, and Friday Dec 10th @ 4%. Bonus Payments are due on the following dates, Oct 22nd, Nov 5th, Nov 19th, Dec 3rd. These bonus payments are based on 1/1 value of LLSE common Stock dividend payments. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.10.22 15:28:00 - [38] Bonus Payment #1 has been issued @ 39,700 Isk per bond share. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.05 18:40:00 - [39] Bonus Payment #2 has been issued @ 50,100 Isk per bond share. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.09 21:58:00 - [40] Nov Interest paid @ 4% per share. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.19 17:10:00 - [41] Bonus Payment #3 has been issued @ 32,500 Isk per bond share. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.23 01:06:00 - [42] As many may know we closed the IPO last week. This bond uses the period profit from the IPO for bonus payments. This Bond is due a final bonus on Dec 3rd, and a payoff on Dec 10th. Due to the fact that the IPO closed after paying period 8 div, we have spent the last week to tally final profits for the IPO. These profits will be given out as final period 9 bonus to SHSG Premium Bond Holders. Final Bonus of 32,500 per bond share. Once this bonus is paid this week, we will return all principal + final interest of 4% per share. All funds will be paid off in full, and this Bond closed by Sat Nov 27th. SHSG will end our public commitment and return SHSG to private ownership. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.27 03:26:00 - [43] Final Bonus @ 32,500 Isk per share paid. SH
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.27 03:45:00 - [44] Final 4% Interest + Principal paid in full. This Bond is closed, and SHSG is now 100% Debt Free, and has returned to private ownership for next weeks game expansion. Thank You all for investing in us. Stealing Honest CEO SHSG
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.11.27 14:00:00 - [45] As Third Party Collateral Holder I am currently awaiting for: - Clearance at accessing SH's API - Accounting software to confirm succesful capital delivery If the Investors might anticipate their succesful final transaction it'd be surely quicker, API is acting troublesome ATM. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.11.27 14:21:00 - [46] Comfirming receipt of investment and interest. Thanks
Luxotor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.27 18:25:00 - [47] Also confirming receipt of investment and interest. Thank you sir. --- Make lowsec useful!
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.11.27 23:13:00 - [48] API confirms all of the payments have been made, therefore collateral has been returned. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Joe Rockpounder	Posted - 2010.11.29 00:13:00 - [49] Variant on the "confirming payment of" scam by alts...
Stealing Honest Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC	Posted - 2010.11.29 04:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Joe Rockpounder Variant on the "confirming payment of" scam by alts... You're an Idiot. I say this with love, but you're still an idiot. SH
Valyrian Tyr	Posted - 2010.11.29 04:44:00 - [51] Originally by: Stealing Honest Originally by: Joe Rockpounder Variant on the "confirming payment of" scam by alts... You're an Idiot. I say this with love, but you're still an idiot. SH I lol'd yo joe you're not really suggesting what I think you are, are you??

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