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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.10.10 15:39:00 -
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Well the title already kinda says it, i am looking for a good option for ratting in guristas 0.0 space, havens and the like.
I know the obvious answer is ishtar or dominix, however i have a slightly annoying problem, i cannot use t2 sentries & heavies yet. I dont have much skills in other races ships, but i can fly most gallente ships out there save for capitals.
I am wondering if anyone else has ideas and / or fittings that would work well? i do prefer sub bs shiptypes in 0.0, simply because its way faster to warp off if needed.
thanks in advance.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:56:00 -
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Deimos or Proteus can do a pretty good job as long as you take out the elite cruisers first ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Shalin
Gallente PLAYBOYS United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:26:00 -
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I use a Ishtar for Guristas Sanctums/Havens. I use a T2 fitt with T1 rigs.
LOWS
2x Armor Thermal hardener II 2x Armor Kinetic hardener II 1x Medium Armor rep II
MEDS
2x Cap Recharger II 1x AB II 1x Omnidirectional Trackin Link I 1x Drone Navigation Computer I
HIGHS
1x Prototype Cloaking Device I 1x Probe Launcher I 1x Civilian Gun
RIGS
2x Medium Capacitor Control Circut
This fit is cap stable with everything on, fly's at 500+ m/s and outreps everything. Has a resistance of 92 TH and 96 KIN so the guristas aren't breaking through the tank. I deals around 470 dps with my T2 Ogres and skill. Only drones I use are Ogres II for BS/BC/Cruiser and Hobgoblins II for frigs/destroyers.
You could increase the tank by removing on CCC rig and installing a Medium Aux nano pump, but you need to remove one item from the mid slots for a extra Cap Recharger II so you stay cap stable (drone tracking comp for instance)
Hope this helps
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Beyond Control.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Footoo Rama on 10/10/2010 21:04:57 As much as I said I was never going to post these fits ever again, as I have posted them about 100 times in the past few months... And I debate helping people that do not search the forums...
Ishtar if you are in 0.0 with either of these 2 fits, both can warp in at range and solo sanctums. You really need Sentry II's if you want to make good money. I can make upwards of 65 mill an hour in a system with a good military index. If you do not have sentry II's train it and use a dual lar domi build untill you can use the Sentry II's.
I prefer the first build warp in at 70km and things just start to go boom, while you orbit the drones. The second build gives up some range but has a slightly better tank but less range but gives you some options. IMHO warping in at range makesfor faster completions times as you one shot everything under a BC/Elite cruiser. BC's take 3 shots and elite cruisers are problematical for Sentry II boats, either the Ish or the DOmi. They need to be killed at range. Use Wardens for targets over 40km and guards for 15-40km, Hammerhead II's or WarriorII's for frigs that get in under 15km. You can run Hobgoblins, but in 0.0 I rather have the warrior II's. Keep in mind both fits require hac4 to fit the drones.
[Ishtar, 0.0ratter gurista] Medium Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II Capacitor Power Relay II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN Afterburner II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster I
Drone Link Augmentor I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Warrior II x5 Hammerhead II x5
or [Ishtar, Ishtar : Gurista forum option] Medium Armor Repairer II Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.10.10 21:33:00 -
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The fits are much appreciated, however i have no problem fitting an ishtar, skillwise or otherwise. the problem are the sentry IIs, and i was mostly wondering if there were other good options while training for those (which i shoulda done ages ago)
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xenodia
Gallente DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2010.10.11 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sonya Kranz Well the title already kinda says it, i am looking for a good option for ratting in guristas 0.0 space, havens and the like.
I know the obvious answer is ishtar or dominix, however i have a slightly annoying problem, i cannot use t2 sentries & heavies yet. I dont have much skills in other races ships, but i can fly most gallente ships out there save for capitals.
I am wondering if anyone else has ideas and / or fittings that would work well? i do prefer sub bs shiptypes in 0.0, simply because its way faster to warp off if needed.
thanks in advance.
You fly mostly gallente, but have crappy drone skills ??? It would seem thats why youre having trouble finding a good ship. This signature space for rent |
Djerin
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:28:00 -
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The cheapest and probably most convenient one is the Dominix, obviously. The Ishtar is only better when you have to ninja-rat or when you need really, really high resistances. ---- Sarmaul's crosstrainorgtfo |
Kneebone
Heathens' Harbor
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:11:00 -
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Sadly the Ishtar IS the ship of choice for ratting in Guri 0.0, if you are ratting in Guri lowsec a Vexor is more then sufficent. It could just be that the purpose of your life is to server as a warning to others. |
Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.10.11 22:10:00 -
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i was kinda expecting to hear this, lucky its a mere 2 weeks for tech 2 sentries so ill survive.
oh and my drone skills are not that bad, i just havent trained tech 2 sentries yet, which i never needed since i fly a kronos usually.
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Commoner
Caldari The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:16:00 -
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Many of these ishtar fits does not include a large cap battery instead of the cap recharger, wouldn't the large battery provide more cap? With AB and single repper you should have enough pg to fit it.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Beyond Control.
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Commoner Many of these ishtar fits does not include a large cap battery instead of the cap recharger, wouldn't the large battery provide more cap? With AB and single repper you should have enough pg to fit it.
It's stable with the recharger and repper, why fit a battery and go unstable? ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
I likegirls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.12 02:19:00 -
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My hyperion does great. But that is with awesome gunnery skills and with dual boxing it with a tempest.
Still think a hyperion could probably solo a haven, sanctum would be too much though.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Beyond Control.
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Posted - 2010.10.12 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: I likegirls My hyperion does great. But that is with awesome gunnery skills and with dual boxing it with a tempest.
Still think a hyperion could probably solo a haven, sanctum would be too much though.
Well the ishtar and the Domi both can... just sayin... Otherwise a Hype can tank a sanctum or Haven, it argueably has the best theoretical Active tank of all the Gallante BS's... but the dps is going to be gimped. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.10.12 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Sonya Kranz on 12/10/2010 08:43:47
Originally by: Footoo Rama
Originally by: Commoner Many of these ishtar fits does not include a large cap battery instead of the cap recharger, wouldn't the large battery provide more cap? With AB and single repper you should have enough pg to fit it.
It's stable with the recharger and repper, why fit a battery and go unstable?
A large cap battery on a cruiser hull provides more cap recharge then a recharger usually. However there is one slight problem, the ishtar is so tight on cpu with the 2 sentry rigs its pretty impossible to squeeze one in the fit.
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Bombrun
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Posted - 2010.12.10 06:07:00 -
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if yah get yurself a hyperion:
had bonus 2 rmor rep
fit 8 x protoytype gaus gunz 350 (if yah can`t do t2) 4 cap rechargers and a tracking comp 3 hardners (2 kinetic 1 thermal, or other way around (should look that up)) 1 Large rep, 2 mag stabs 1 dps rig and 2 cc rigs use wardens or garde`s t1 or t2
if yah have the guns and drones t1 yah still able 2 tank the rats
Even a sanctum
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.12.10 06:52:00 -
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Whatever you do, make sure you're using kinetic drones. I can't believe people still don't understand how much better they are than thermals against kinetic-weak NPCs.
Until you finish training for sentries, that is
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.12.10 07:01:00 -
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As far as belt ratting goes, consider the Nemesis as well. Enough damage to finish off BSs quickly, not a gunboat so you can stay aligned out at all times and dont even lose drones if you have to run from surprise pvp, as well as the obvious advantage of the cov ops cloak for moving around.
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salty alt
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Posted - 2010.12.10 10:15:00 -
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Use this for 0.0.
Tanks everything Guristas will throw at you other than a Maze. Warden IIs and Wasp IIs are your friends. Stay aligned.
[Ishtar, dual prop mod] Medium Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Ammatar Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Ammatar Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Navigation Computer I
Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
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Johnny Thermidor
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Posted - 2010.12.10 10:35:00 -
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Deimos. I know they get a bad rep, but give it a shot sometime, they'll absolutely tear through Guristas rats.
Something to the effect of:
HIGH 5 Neutron IIs
MED MWD II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
LOW MAR II DC II Nano/CPR/TE/PDU II/Whatever you want here MAGSTAB MAGSTAB MAGSTAB
^play around with that fitting; IIRC you won't need more tank than that due to your already godlike Kin/Therm resists
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Rutuli
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Posted - 2010.12.10 14:52:00 -
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for rating
[Proteus, new kronos] Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Thermic Membrane II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Cap Recharger II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Vespa II x5 Hornet II x5
you could use void M too
if you like to salvage the wrecks and loot every crap they drop, get an ishtar with heavys, 3 blasters, salvager+tractor beam, shield or armor tank and a mwd
for plex (except 10/10) and anomalies, shield passive tanked ishtar with sentrys or heavies ftw
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