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Cutter Isaacson
Quantum Reality R n D Internet Guardians
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:16:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote:Tippia wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote:i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts.... Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go. It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings. Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me? You are such a jobs worth tippia
Here it is in crayon.
-ú100 to CCP - CCP give you PLEX - PLEX sold for ISK / PLEX given to scammer.
The bit I highlighted is the important part. This is the point at which CCP no longer has any liability. After that point, whatever happens to your PLEX / ISK is entirely down to you.
Got it now? Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
62
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:16:00 -
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I would really appreciate a dev or ISD to drop by and tell this dude that scams happen in EVE and nobody cares. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1550
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:17:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote:Still no mention of EULA then
The EULA is not an exhaustive list of what you /can/ do in the game, but rather what you are not allowed to do. EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Crouching Tigress
Paper Cubs
3
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:19:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote:Tippia wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote:i wont reply to anymore stupid "its ok to scam" posts.... Then quit. Please hand over your stuff before you go. It is ok to scam because those are the rules of the game. You accepted them when you created your account. You accepted them when you downloaded and first started the client. You accent them any time the client craps itself and resets its settings. Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me? You are such a jobs worth tippia Here it is in crayon. -ú100 to CCP - CCP give you PLEX - PLEX sold for ISK / PLEX given to scammer. The bit I highlighted is the important part. This is the point at which CCP no longer has any liability. After that point, whatever happens to your PLEX / ISK is entirely down to you. Got it now?
still no exactl EULA extract then? you cant just make stuff up your of your head.
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
856
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:19:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote:Still no mention of EULA then The EULA is not an exhaustive list of what you /can/ do in the game, but rather what you are not allowed to do.
And Eve-Online's EULA is particularly vague on purpose. It allows CCP a bailout option for just about any situation. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Cutter Isaacson
Quantum Reality R n D Internet Guardians
839
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:20:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote:
Again please show me where in the EULA it says, we are signing up to be scammed. Just show me it and stop avoiding it
Read here please and count yourself lucky you got your ISK back.
EVE Support
Now hush.
EVE Online Support wrote:
Scams
A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
856
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:20:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote: still no exactl EULA extract then? you cant just make stuff up your of your head.
I trust everyone now realizes this entire thread is just a fake post. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Mallak Azaria
534
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:21:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote:Alpheias wrote:No. You failed to comprehend what you read. Again please show me where in the EULA it says, we are signing up to be scammed. Just show me it and stop avoiding it
You are accepting the games rules which are generally not included in the EULA. It is up to you whether you actually read them or not, but agreeing to the rules implies that you have read & understood them.
CCP's article on Scamming
When you create an account, you agree to all rules, Terms of Service, EULA's... You agree to everything. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
372
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:22:00 -
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Oh the EULA forums lawyers ... If we go by the EULA, everything in game belongs to CCP, not you. Therefore, you never had no plex to begin with. So it could not have been scammed/stolen from you, because it was not yours. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
856
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:23:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Oh the EULA forums lawyers ... If we go by the EULA, everything in game belongs to CCP, not you. Therefore, you never had no plex to begin with. So it could not have been scammed/stolen from you, because it was not yours.
Yes that's pretty much the gist of it. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
856
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:25:00 -
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Continuing this discussion is pointless at this point anyhow. The OP was a fake post and he will begin to get more and more faux-hysterical as folks continue to post reasonable replies. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Serphas Tisamon
Knights of Free Space Tribal Band
1
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:26:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Bubanni wrote:The reason you got scammed is because you took the risk with the wrong people, It's not their fault you used you own money to get the isk they scammed from you... scams are common in eve... may I ask where this space was? (What alliance?) And how you found them He mentioned TRIBAL BAND in the OP. So looks like he tried to rent space from a TEST Pet.
its our space.. we don't rent.. thanks for playing tho.. come down and we'll give you a tour sometime |

Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:27:00 -
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This thread.... is EPIC.
Someone mentioned that everyone at some point gets scammed, I've played on and off since 2009 and never been scammed (yay, lucky me) and I like to think this is because I use my head before doing stupid things and by that avoid them. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
279
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote:Can you show me the rule in the EULA that says you will be scammed with your real money, andyou must accept this. Tell me? Just one problem: you were not scammed with real money. You got scammed out of in-game currency GÇö currency you don't even own (it's the property of CCP, and they still own it now that it appears in the scammer's wallet). The EULA doesn't prohibit this kind of scamming. In addition, as the reimbursement policy points outGǪ Reimbursement policy wrote:1. Assets lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam. Generally in-game scams are allowed and considered a valid tactic as long as they are done via normal game mechanics. 2. Players are cautioned to use their best judgment when entering into agreements with other players. To avoid getting scammed, please read our article on scamming. GǪit would only be illegitimate if they exploited any bugs. I'm fairly willing to bet that you simply transferred ISK to them GÇö no bugs involved. historically CCP hasn't approved of scammers that explicitly encourage their target to spend real-life money on PLEX (that the target will subequently be relieved from), I don't have a citation at hand but iirc it is briefly touched upon in the discussion of vote scamming in the recent CSM minutes.
that doesn't seem to be the case here, though.
@OP next time do your research, it is well-known (and would be easy to dig up with a little research) that CFC and HB alliances (and Tribal Band is honeybadger) don't rent out any space, the shortcomings of the rental system are one of mittani's favorite topics in his tentonhammer column. |

Jonah Gravenstein
686
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:29:00 -
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What the OP hopes will happen if he tells the old bill
The reaction he'll actually get War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:30:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote:so you failed to show me where i signed up to be alowed to be scammed then? GǪyou mean apart from the bit where it said that scamming is allowed? Not only by omission in the EULA, but also explicitly in the complementary rules that you agree with as part of agreeing to the EULA.
Yeah, no. I didn't fail to show you that. You just failed to read it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Crouching Tigress
Paper Cubs
3
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:30:00 -
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again lets see |

Drunken Bum
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:32:00 -
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This isn't real money scamming. You're an idiot. Also, HA HA. Sucker. |

Korg Leaf
Nocturnal Romance
33
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:33:00 -
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Long story short, OP is ******** and can't fathom that once he converted his mummies cash into isk that real life laws no longer apply. |

Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
46
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:34:00 -
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Facepalm @ OP, no real money was stolen. End of the story. |

Jonah Gravenstein
686
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:34:00 -
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Please feel free to post a crime reference number if you don't
A: get laughed at because the Police Officer on duty is actually a goon B: take a time out at her maj's pleasure for a night or 2 for wasting police time C: get gatecamped on your way out of the carpark by the local chavs
I'm assuming UK player because you paid in -ú (pounds sterling) War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
372
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:34:00 -
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Toons should get in-game sec status hit for posting threads like this. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
769
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:34:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Crouching Tigress wrote: still no exactl EULA extract then? you cant just make stuff up your of your head.
I trust everyone now realizes this entire thread is just a fake post.
well since he purposely passed over the EULA excerpt I gave, it was pretty obvious from the start though. |

Crouching Tigress
Paper Cubs
3
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:35:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please feel free to post a crime reference number if you don't A: get laughed at because the Police Officer on duty is actually a goon B: take a time out at her maj's pleasure for a night or 2 for wasting police time C: get gatecamped on your way out of the carpark by the local chavs
see the funny thing is i bet you laughed when people didnt think they could be convicted for saying stuff on twitter... |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
507
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:36:00 -
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Go on then. We already know how it will turn out. Will you want to bash someone's head off a wall like you threatened in your OP? Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1431
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:37:00 -
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This is such a successful troll thread. Don't like spaceships sandbox? then this is not the game for you. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Crouching Tigress
Paper Cubs
3
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:39:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:Go on then. We already know how it will turn out. Will you want to bash someone's head off a wall like you threatened in your OP?
do you? how do you know? |

Jonah Gravenstein
687
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:39:00 -
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Crouching Tigress wrote: see the funny thing is i bet you laughed when people didnt think they could be convicted for saying stuff on twitter...
making threats to a real life entity via a public medium is very very different than stealing internet spaceships monies, and fyi the guy who got arrested for the bombthreat via twitter? his conviction was quashed in court the other day, the little scrote that made the threat to the Olympic swimmer will no doubt get a slapped wrist and made to make a public apology. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
62
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:42:00 -
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OP, you committed a worse crime than the scammers because you threatened to physically harm someone. |

Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
146
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:43:00 -
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10/10 best troll for a long time |
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