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NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:45:00 -
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Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good.
I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run.
Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/
I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console.
The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground?
I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big! .. |
BBJ Shepard
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
239
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:48:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good. I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run. Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console. The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground? I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big! okye(: ?(: |
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
5
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:49:00 -
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No NDA was harmed in the OP's posting.......
How about posting in the DUST forums? |
NickyYo
StarHug
183
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:53:00 -
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Buoytender Bob wrote:No NDA was harmed in the OP's posting.......
How about posting in the DUST forums?
And a mod will move it if so, captain obvious..
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Freezehunter
271
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Posted - 2012.08.02 23:57:00 -
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Last time I said Dust will be an epic failure, I got forum banned for 6 months, so I will refrain this time.
You will see... :P Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
NickyYo
StarHug
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:00:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:Last time I said Dust will be an epic failure, I got forum banned for 6 months, so I will refrain this time.
You will see... :P
I am simply sayings "CCP do you know that there is another game almost exactly the same as DUST514 coming out except without all that confusion, bad graphics and micro transactions?"
And i am worried for eves sake. .. |
Gogela
Direct Action LLC.
909
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:04:00 -
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I'll just say what I've always said on this: If DUST 514 is fun then it will be a success. If it's lame and Halo 4 is better I'm playing Halo 4. Haven't played DUST yet still need to buy a PS3... but I will at some point.
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NickyYo
StarHug
185
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:40:00 -
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Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.
DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do.. .. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
769
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:43:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.
DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do..
pegi18, way to go big bro. |
NickyYo
StarHug
187
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:44:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:NickyYo wrote:Update, my 12 year old brother has been playing for about 20 mins, he never touched the skillsheet or the market. Just point and shoot. He is now playing COD.
DUST is gunna need a miracle i have a few ideas, i will post in features section but i doubt CCP will listen they never do.. pegi18
Its only pegi18 because of the micro-transactions. Is eve a pegi18? .. |
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
66
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:46:00 -
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BBJ Shepard wrote:NickyYo wrote:Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good. I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run. Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/I would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console. The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground? I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big! okye(:
Wrong forum. I dont care about dusk this is eve forum keep it that way thanks.
/c |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
55
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:47:00 -
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Tricky situation regarding their desire to not cannibalize their own market on PC, and going the route of PS3, yet also making the game robust and "complex".
I won't say much, but grant the OP is correct in some way, especially the attention-span of the average console shooter. They want to jump in and play. Though, DUST 514 has a lot of potential and I will withhold judgment.
It could be that most consolers have never played something like this with complexity, and will embrace it. The cost of entry is 0 dollars, so why not? I hope for it's success.... I want to see EVE integrated with DUST and I want that feature to blow up and be amazing. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
74
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:49:00 -
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Dust need to be epic like EVE was to gain traction i didn't saw that so far.
Will link to EVE or bombardment kick start it..maybe,it need to be uber not just another shooter question is is it?
I hope it is or else we have another failure to bail.\ out. |
D3F4ULT
168
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:51:00 -
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Here to state
"Gameplay > Graphics"
Ever played Minecraft? Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
770
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Posted - 2012.08.03 00:58:00 -
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NickyYo wrote: Its only pegi18 because of the micro-transactions. Is eve a pegi18?
EvE is pegi12. Likely because people aren't represented as blood balloons being riddled with a 50cal. |
Xiang Jing
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:03:00 -
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A couple Eve fans I have talked to online have also expressed a lot of disappointment with Dust. I'm not a huge FPS guy so it doesn't interest me much, but I hope for Eve's sake it can succeed.
As an aside, C&C Renegade was awesome, don't be hatin' on C&C. Except for the modern ones. They kind of suck. |
NickyYo
StarHug
187
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:04:00 -
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I foresee the future..
6 months after DUST514 release CCP will make a press release stating they were wrong and that they are sorry they are now going to release it on PC and will listen to the eve players again...
Thus meaning all eves current management will be sacked, sorry if im wrong saying that but that is what a foresee. How many **** ups is there going to be with eve and dust combined? .. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:08:00 -
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Syphon Lodian wrote:Tricky situation regarding their desire to not cannibalize their own market on PC, and going the route of PS3, yet also making the game robust and "complex".
I won't say much, but grant the OP is correct in some way, especially the attention-span of the average console shooter. They want to jump in and play. Though, DUST 514 has a lot of potential and I will withhold judgment.
It could be that most consolers have never played something like this with complexity, and will embrace it. The cost of entry is 0 dollars, so why not? I hope for it's success.... I want to see EVE integrated with DUST and I want that feature to blow up and be amazing.
Never listen to Nicky, he will troll you right out of your underwear.
For instance, just because his TWELVE year old brother has no interest in the intricacies of the game is no reflection on the game itself. I personally take the time to look over my character sheet and the market and mess around. Truthfully, within the confines of a FPS, you will get out of it what you put into it.
I will say the current cycle is not as deep as the previous one, but that's all I'll say. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
NickyYo
StarHug
187
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:08:00 -
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Xiang Jing wrote: As an aside, C&C Renegade was awesome, don't be hatin' on C&C. Except for the modern ones. They kind of suck.
What about renegade x? .. |
NickyYo
StarHug
187
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:11:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Here to state
"Gameplay > Graphics"
Ever played Minecraft?
Is there a minecraft on console? .. |
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Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
1147
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:16:00 -
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I'm only a EVE player by a few months but I have to agree with the OP. However!
Xbox 360 had a game called Chromehounds, which was a launch title that involved micro transactions (the default live subscription as well), robotic tactical warfare and lots of fitting and preparation. It ended up obtaining a die hard player base and lasted for years before SEGA finally turned the servers off.
You never know, PS3 has tons of over-entitled college/university students as it's main player base. They should feel the call of a game that will "prove" they're smarter and more 'loldeep' than the average console gamer.
CCP can win this one, just need to play it carefully. Also I like Command and Conquer but I'm not going near that, 4 never happened. *rocks back and forth*
tl;dr: You may be pleasantly surprised, console gamers aren't as finicky as the common EVE player. Pirates are red, buddies are blue, if you're unlucky enough to be orange, I'll f*cking kill you.I wonder if all the pickles in the forums are tax exempt? |
Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
1147
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:17:00 -
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Woops, double post* Pirates are red, buddies are blue, if you're unlucky enough to be orange, I'll f*cking kill you.I wonder if all the pickles in the forums are tax exempt? |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
771
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:23:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Here to state
"Gameplay > Graphics"
Ever played Minecraft? Is there a minecraft on console? minecraft 360 3d dot game heroes every lego game
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Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.08.03 02:27:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Ok just played the DUST 514 BETA, and my first impressions are not good. I want to make clear that yes this is BETA and a lot of work is still being done but i feel no matter how much work they put in, it won't improve the game in the long run. Why you ask? well remember a game called command and conquer Renegade? if not heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuO0J7TRMI its almost exactly the same as DUST 514 and guess what Renegade X is coming out soon http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/27/candc-renegade-remake-renegade-x-black-dawn-deploys-tomorrow/ and here is a video of renegade x, looks familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNpPQN758ucI would also like to point out that this game DUST514 is more aimed for pc players not console players, console players need instant attention satisfaction point and shoot. Not all this setting up etc hence why redalert failed on console. The graphics are god awefull and its just confusing, 3rd person while in the station and 1st person on the ground? I hope i am wrong and it succeeeds, if not then it's going to drag EvE down big!
Red Alert failed on console? Hmm Ive had every one. (ignoring the common fact about console rts games) and its sad about DUST. I have no interest in repairing my PS3, but DUST may have made me think about it seeing how much I like EVE. Join the Knights Of Illusion STE Corporation! Casual and Hardcore gamers! |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.08.03 02:29:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote:I'm only a EVE player by a few months but I have to agree with the OP. However!
Xbox 360 had a game called Chromehounds, which was a launch title that involved micro transactions (the default live subscription as well), robotic tactical warfare and lots of fitting and preparation. It ended up obtaining a die hard player base and lasted for years before SEGA finally turned the servers off.
You never know, PS3 has tons of over-entitled college/university students as it's main player base. They should feel the call of a game that will "prove" they're smarter and more 'loldeep' than the average console gamer.
CCP can win this one, just need to play it carefully. Also I like Command and Conquer but I'm not going near that, 4 never happened. *rocks back and forth*
tl;dr: You may be pleasantly surprised, console gamers aren't as finicky as the common EVE player.
Chromehounds to this day is by far one of the top 3 online console games ever. I could slap everyone at From Software and SEGA for turning off those servers. Id still play it now. Join the Knights Of Illusion STE Corporation! Casual and Hardcore gamers! |
Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
13
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Posted - 2012.08.03 03:14:00 -
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renegade. **** yeah. i loved that game. especially after they added helicopters :D
NOD ftw |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
551
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Posted - 2012.08.03 03:21:00 -
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You are underestimating the intellectual level of the console players.
Just like EVE Online, there will be those who will engage in a more complicated game than your so-called simple straight-shooter games.
You are writing on a wrong forum. You are basing the general populous to your 12 year old brother. There is no logic to your opinion. Everything is wrong with your thread.
This should be locked. |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
507
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Posted - 2012.08.03 03:22:00 -
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CCP have said they are launching Dust on PS3.
I bolded the important word there. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Isilldur
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
0
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Posted - 2012.08.03 03:30:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Here to state
"Gameplay > Graphics"
Ever played Minecraft? Is there a minecraft on console?
Its the best sellin Xbox Live Arcade game ever
FailTroll |
Shukuzen Kiraa
Neurodyne
184
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Posted - 2012.08.03 03:38:00 -
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I want DUST to do extremely well, I want anything CCP ever does to do great...but what happens if DUST ends up being a failure? Would it bring EVE down with it? I don't think I could handle that...lol. |
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