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Loki Vengeance
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Posted - 2010.10.13 22:58:00 -
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I have no idea if anyone is already doing this on a professional basis as either a personal or corporate accountant within Eve, but I'm basically looking for someone to provide decent personal accounting services to me. I've used EMMA and some other programs to try and keep track of my spending, income, and profit, but I always end up with at least some non-sensical data creeping in which I know is wrong (but the source of which is often elusive). Also, nothing I've tried spits out the data I want in the format I want. Yes I could write stored procedures to pull the data out of SQL Server myself in the case of EMMA and yes I could even make it all show up on pretty ASP.NET graphs, but I have absolutely no time to dig into all that and it'll still just be an automated mess I have to sort through anyway. Part of what I'm looking for would require quite a bit of custom coding but would be fairly easy for a human being to accomplish because it involves some intuitive sorting of data (ie. knowing that I need to exclude that, or put that over there even though it looks similar to this other thing, etc).
I'm basically looking for a trustworthy individual with strong accounting skills (preferably someone who actually does this on a real-world or consistent basis within Eve) who will, for a reasonable fee, track my buying and selling, give me simple reports of where my money's going and what's actually very profitable/scaling/etc, and what my overall progress is in terms of liquid/semi-liquid tradeable NAV, total NAV, etc over time. I don't care if you're using EMMA to get the basic data sorted as long as you're actively seeking and eliminating anomalous data (such as an average selling price that's half what I've ever bought the item for, let alone sold one for - wth?) along the way and then preparing my requested info (which may change a bit from time to time).
Being able to graph it and/or display it via secure HTTP would be a bonus. NDA is a must. While I could sift through all this data myself, I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so. It's worth it to me to pay someone who actually enjoys doing this kind of thing to do it for me and spoonfeed me the headlines (while still providing the underlying supporting data of course). Is anyone already doing this for people and/or interested in doing it for me?
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.10.14 06:08:00 -
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There are some few persons on this forum who would in theory meet your requirements - without much thinking Varo Jan and Magnu Stormhawk come to mind.
However, I think asking for RL accountants is way over the top if you don't actually want to receive reports that adhere to RL standards.
Trying to hire them might also not work well with your expectation of a "reasonable fee" (although I have no idea how much you actually intend to pay for this service).
Hiring some general MD auditor would be the more logical step (they are expected to be trustworthy and have to be able to evaluate trading data and compute NAV values), the problem is only Vaerah Vahrokha is sort of active at the moment.
Hiring some random unknown might work out well or lead to him out-competing you in your most profitable business lines.
(if by "secure HTTP" you imply HTTPS and not just "some sort of password protection", I am not sure what this would achieve - are you concerned about someone on your network sniffing your super-sekrit market data or s/o doing a man-in-the-middle attack on you?)
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Chingyz
Caldari
Reverse Psychology.
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.10.14 07:18:00 -
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As an accountant (RL) I wish you good luck on this. I know if I should even consider this then I'd need at least 15B ISK a month and then I still might not take the job.
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Loki Vengeance
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Posted - 2010.10.14 07:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
There are some few persons on this forum who would in theory meet your requirements - without much thinking Varo Jan and Magnu Stormhawk come to mind.
However, I think asking for RL accountants is way over the top if you don't actually want to receive reports that adhere to RL standards.
Trying to hire them might also not work well with your expectation of a "reasonable fee" (although I have no idea how much you actually intend to pay for this service).
Hiring some general MD auditor would be the more logical step (they are expected to be trustworthy and have to be able to evaluate trading data and compute NAV values), the problem is only Vaerah Vahrokha is sort of active at the moment.
Hiring some random unknown might work out well or lead to him out-competing you in your most profitable business lines.
(if by "secure HTTP" you imply HTTPS and not just "some sort of password protection", I am not sure what this would achieve - are you concerned about someone on your network sniffing your super-sekrit market data or s/o doing a man-in-the-middle attack on you?)
I'm not at all tied to having a RL accounting doing the work as I'm not looking for any standards-meeting reports (and definitely not in the way of terminology). What I really meant by that was just someone who would comprehend the data in such a way that they could pull out the information I'm looking for and present it in a coherent manner.
A general MD auditor would probably be fine since they're doing basic analysis of wallet data anyway and would likely be in the kind of price ranges I'd be looking for. I don't have vast pools of assets to draw on, so I'd be paying in the hundreds of millions a month for probably a couple basic reports on profitability and some custom data pooling here and there. I actually don't think that most of what I want is more than a few steps beyond what an experienced EMMA users could come up with. What it really comes down to is that I work long hours and have limited play time, so burning that time fiddling with programs and crunching data are just not at all what I want to do.
I'm kind of surprised more people don't have a need for this sort of thing. It seems to me that even if you think you have a good handle on your trading, you'd do much better to have a fresh set of experienced and unbiased eyes going through your data and coming up with things you may be missing. I know I'm not doing terrible because my NAV has grown by about 30,000% over the past 6 months (started pretty small), but I also know I could do a lot better and have a lot less work to do if I cut the fat and concentrated on the most profitable stuff. I definitely want to avoid a random unknown, as trust is certainly an issue. Thanks for the post and the lead on the auditor.
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Mr Cocojambo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.14 10:31:00 -
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I heard CCP hired one some time ago. Have not seen the fruits of that labour yet though.. So it might just be a rumour 
Although... Islandic accountants aint the most wanted ones i suppose... *sniggles*
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Leo Monson
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Posted - 2010.10.14 11:05:00 -
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For 2b and about a days work I could write you a web app. I've already got something similar coded for myself so it won't be hard to do this for what you want.
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