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ForumWarrior Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.10.15 01:30:00 - [1] ...or pro-gay marriage, whichever way you prefer to look at that one, I guess. Anyway, awesome organization made an awesome commercial. Watch, be awesome. Lots of swearing, though. You be warned. --- ôThere is a powerful tension in our relationship to technology. We are excited by egalitarianism and anonymity, but we constantly fight for our identity.ö
Paknac Queltel Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.10.15 06:13:00 - [2] Originally by: ForumWarrior Edit: YouTube link for those distrustful of outside sites. Thank you very much. There's too much ****ing pink in the vid. It hurts my eyes. The message is pretty clear though. - Paknac Queltel
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.10.16 05:57:00 - [3] LOL. Omg, that was amazing. Thank you. It made me giggle more than a Catholic school girl thinking about the football team naked. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.10.16 06:05:00 - [4] Here's a commercial from the other team. Not nearly as exciting if you ask me but a group was kind enough to spice it up.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.10.16 08:32:00 - [5] That video brought together everything I hate about gay people and homophobes. Flamboyant body language and excessive swearing, to cover for lack of brain or security in the own capacity and/or sexual orientation. I feel compelled to join in and go 'ah-ah, don't go there girlfriend!' but it's too late... Delenda est achura.
Dead Jesus	Posted - 2010.10.16 08:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Wendat Huron That video brought together everything I hate about gay people and homophobes. Flamboyant body language and excessive swearing, to cover for lack of brain or security in the own capacity and/or sexual orientation. I feel compelled to join in and go 'ah-ah, don't go there girlfriend!' but it's too late... It was meant to be everything homophobes hate, you seem to be the one lacking 'security' in your 'capacity and/or sexual orientation.'
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.10.16 09:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Dead Jesus Originally by: Wendat Huron That video brought together everything I hate about gay people and homophobes. Flamboyant body language and excessive swearing, to cover for lack of brain or security in the own capacity and/or sexual orientation. I feel compelled to join in and go 'ah-ah, don't go there girlfriend!' but it's too late... It was meant to be everything homophobes hate, you seem to be the one lacking 'security' in your 'capacity and/or sexual orientation.' Sorry but you're generalization of heterosexuals fail. I don't like overly outwards acting people, regardless of sexual orientation, i.e drama queens. You do whatever you do and thank you for popularizing sodomy but again for me not wanting to stone you on the spot to me wanting to frolic with you in a meadow of whimsical faeries, that's a huge freaking leap! Delenda est achura.
Dead Jesus	Posted - 2010.10.16 10:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Wendat Huron Edited by: Wendat Huron on 16/10/2010 09:24:21 Originally by: Dead Jesus Originally by: Wendat Huron That video brought together everything I hate about gay people and homophobes. Flamboyant body language and excessive swearing, to cover for lack of brain or security in the own capacity and/or sexual orientation. I feel compelled to join in and go 'ah-ah, don't go there girlfriend!' but it's too late... It was meant to be everything homophobes hate, you seem to be the one lacking 'security' in your 'capacity and/or sexual orientation.' Sorry but you're generalization of heterosexuals fail. I don't like overly outwards acting people, regardless of sexual orientation, i.e drama queens. You do whatever you do and thank you for popularizing sodomy but again from me not wanting to stone you on the spot to me wanting to frolic with you in a meadow of whimsical faeries, that's a huge freaking leap! The edit was me putting in 'for' instead of 'from', mind over keyboard or something. The rest of the masterpiece remain intact. I didn't generalise heterosexuals, I only pointed at your homophobic reaction. The reasons for that over reaction, and abusive language on your part, are for you to consider. If you feel you have something to prove here, go ahead, be my guest.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce	Posted - 2010.10.16 11:00:00 - [9] I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.10.16 12:02:00 - [10] Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? Hate/distrust against outsiders helps unify a community/group and gives people someone else to blame for things that are bad in their lives. The more you can make your side hate them, the less you have justify the hate. It becomes a thing of faith and your side will start to belittle and dismiss all critical claims against that shared view on their own. It really is a great scapegoat for your own failures, impotence and hipocrisy, and after being repeated long enough it will start to live a life of it's own and is really hard to get rid of.
Astenion Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation	Posted - 2010.10.16 12:16:00 - [11] The parodies are BRILLIANT! I love them! I could've done without the two dudes making out in the FCKH8 video, but I also have an aversion to watching old or fat people making out, straight or gay. Not a fan of PDA from either side. Still, brilliant!
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.10.16 12:18:00 - [12] I think the simpsons summed all this up rather well. Gay person in parade: We're here, we're *****, get used to it! Lisa: You do this every year. We are used to it. Gay person in parade: Spoilsport. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce	Posted - 2010.10.16 13:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? Hate/distrust against outsiders helps unify a community/group and gives people someone else to blame for things that are bad in their lives. The more you can make your side hate them, the less you have justify the hate. It becomes a thing of faith and your side will start to belittle and dismiss all critical claims against that shared view on their own. It really is a great scapegoat for your own failures, impotence and hipocrisy, and after being repeated long enough it will start to live a life of it's own and is really hard to get rid of. and this is why expecting something more than a huge ball of humanity-consuming fire is wishful thinking honestly, the more we evolve, the more **** we look. Wish I could go into cold sleep so that I could wake up when the end of the world arrives, cuz I want to see our demise from the front row. --- Quote:** The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.10.16 13:48:00 - [14] Me and you would get along very well in RL Grimpak. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.10.16 13:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Dead Jesus Originally by: Wendat Huron Edited by: Wendat Huron on 16/10/2010 09:24:21 Originally by: Dead Jesus Originally by: Wendat Huron That video brought together everything I hate about gay people and homophobes. Flamboyant body language and excessive swearing, to cover for lack of brain or security in the own capacity and/or sexual orientation. I feel compelled to join in and go 'ah-ah, don't go there girlfriend!' but it's too late... It was meant to be everything homophobes hate, you seem to be the one lacking 'security' in your 'capacity and/or sexual orientation.' Sorry but you're generalization of heterosexuals fail. I don't like overly outwards acting people, regardless of sexual orientation, i.e drama queens. You do whatever you do and thank you for popularizing sodomy but again from me not wanting to stone you on the spot to me wanting to frolic with you in a meadow of whimsical faeries, that's a huge freaking leap! The edit was me putting in 'for' instead of 'from', mind over keyboard or something. The rest of the masterpiece remain intact. I didn't generalise heterosexuals, I only pointed at your homophobic reaction. The reasons for that over reaction, and abusive language on your part, are for you to consider. If you feel you have something to prove here, go ahead, be my guest. What abusive language? Point it out to me, I'm not as sensitive as you are about these issues. And no, I don't have anything to consider, I hate flamboyance. If that is what gay is all about then you may have a point, I however suspect you don't speak for all gay people. Next time you go for the PC crown, choose a fluffier forum. Delenda est achura.
Johan Sabbat Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.10.16 14:19:00 - [16] Wow, children swearing... that's so cool!
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.10.16 14:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Professor Tarantula I don't see why they even want to be involved in the failure that is christian marriage, or want the approval of the roman catholic church. But maybe it's more about provoking religious zealots, and that i can relate to. Taxes. There are a few other little benefits like being able to see your significant other in the hospital though I believe they have recently changed that to allowing GF's and BF's. And a few of them are traditionalists still.
Roosterton Internet Spaceship Raiders	Posted - 2010.10.16 15:13:00 - [18] Edited by: Roosterton on 16/10/2010 15:15:39 Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? You might as well ask why people would care about how other people see beings in the sky who supposedly created us all. Yet for hundreds of years people have killed each other over that. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three. Originally by: Tarminic OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce	Posted - 2010.10.16 16:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 16/10/2010 15:15:39 Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? You might as well ask why people would care about how other people see beings in the sky who supposedly created us all. Yet for hundreds of years people have killed each other over that. thus why us dying to a huge ball of fire coming crashing down the heavens is something that I'll be eagerly awaiting. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.10.16 17:16:00 - [20] As a conservative anarchist (yes they exist J.R.R Tolkien was one) this whole topic should have been moot. What started this was that people had a problem with how the state doled out other people's money for medical benefits to state employees. Everybody who plays this game knows the old adage "You can tell me how to play when you pay for my sub". It's the same thing. When you are taking OPM (Other Peoples Money) other people (from whom the money was taken) will have something to say. Now meanwhile, the entire issue is meant to distract. So California for example gets to vote on this? Gee, California, what about your land rights? Gee, California, what about your gun rights? Gee, California, what about your small businesses and their right not to be nickel and dimed to destruction? Gee, California, what about your nullification and 10th Amendment powers? Nope. None of that. Nobody should be living off of or taking anyone elses money. Put a stop to that, and nobody can say to anybody how they should live or who they can marry. My personal opinion: let them marry on one condition. One of them has to be the "designated man" in the marriage because that's the one who will have no rights in the divorce. Make that condition and there will not be as many unions as people expect.
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.10.16 17:48:00 - [21] For those of you who don't quite understand as to why same-sex marriage is important to gay people, its because of this. Denying people over 1,000 rights is a teensy bit rude. However, I couldn't care less if it was called marriage or civil unions, as long as the rights were the same. Pretty much, I feel like John Barrowman does on the subject. Oh, and for the guy who says the video is "everything he hates about homosexuals," its meant to be a giant ** YOU, I thought that was going to be pretty self-evident, but apparently people don't quite understand hyperbole. Originally by:** CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.10.16 17:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Zions Child For those of you who don't quite understand as to why same-sex marriage is important to gay people, its because of this. Denying people over 1,000 rights is a teensy bit rude. However, I couldn't care less if it was called marriage or civil unions, as long as the rights were the same. Pretty much, I feel like John Barrowman does on the subject. Oh, and for the guy who says the video is "everything he hates about homosexuals," its meant to be a giant ** YOU, I thought that was going to be pretty self-evident, but apparently people don't quite understand hyperbole. Understand? It has all to do with understand, by being over the top it fails to deliver on the mark. Here's another , , and ** for emphasis. Delenda est achura.
Miriam Letisse	Posted - 2010.10.16 18:00:00 - [23] I can understand the rest of the video, but why all the swearing? Wouldn't that just alienate people more? Especially having made children swear.
Caleidascope Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.10.16 18:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? And you summarize the general outlook. The problem is that the gay marriage issue is not about sexual orientation, is not about sexual practices at all. It is about legal issues, about laws. Married couples have certain legal rights. Couples that are not married do not have these rights. Add to that traditional Judaic-Christian definition of marriage, and you get the current situation. If homosexuals would agree to use a different word for their "marriage", civil union for example. People who oppose them because of the Judaic-Christian definition of word marriage would probably stop opposing them. Then you put the legal rights of married couples under that word. This way heterosexual and homosexual couples have the same rights. The problem is that a lot of homosexuals want to use word marriage, I am guessing they want to be like regular people (homosexuals are a minority after all). And so the whole issue is not going away any time soon.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.10.16 18:28:00 - [25] They be tollin'.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.10.16 18:34:00 - [26] WARNING: BRILLIANT IDEA INBOUD~~~~~ Let's let people live their lives how they want to. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Caleidascope Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.10.16 18:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Stick Cult WARNING: BRILLIANT IDEA INBOUD~~~~~ Let's let people live their lives how they want to. State of Nature? Sure, very old concept, from around 1750-1770s. We also know that it does not work. Next!
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce	Posted - 2010.10.16 19:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Caleidascope Originally by: Grimpak I don't get this. why should one care about someone's else sexual orientation? and why should I be worried that homossexuals get to marry each other, since it doesn't affect me in any way? And you summarize the general outlook. The problem is that the gay marriage issue is not about sexual orientation, is not about sexual practices at all. It is about legal issues, about laws. Married couples have certain legal rights. Couples that are not married do not have these rights. Add to that traditional Judaic-Christian definition of marriage, and you get the current situation. If homosexuals would agree to use a different word for their "marriage", civil union for example. People who oppose them because of the Judaic-Christian definition of word marriage would probably stop opposing them. Then you put the legal rights of married couples under that word. This way heterosexual and homosexual couples have the same rights. The problem is that a lot of homosexuals want to use word marriage, I am guessing they want to be like regular people (homosexuals are a minority after all). And so the whole issue is not going away any time soon. that's what happened here in portugal this year (and some time ago in spain too). They can't marry by church, but then again, marrying by church is just a " traditional formality". They can, infact, have a civil union at the registry, and be legally recognized as a couple --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.10.16 19:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Caleidascope Originally by: Stick Cult WARNING: BRILLIANT IDEA INBOUD~~~~~ Let's let people live their lives how they want to. State of Nature? Sure, very old concept, from around 1750-1770s. We also know that it does not work. Next! Ok, not in regards to everything. (mmm.. chaos..) But in regards to a thing like marriage, where someone else's marriage has no impact on your life, who cares? Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.10.17 08:32:00 - [30] MICHAEL! _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.

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