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Kosher Jew
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Posted - 2010.10.18 03:34:00 -
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Sorry for the 'slandering' as you call it. If you want to take this to the courtroom, I'd have to say that I was merely creatively and analogously providing a perception of RISK associated with having a non-reputable auditor. A fellow non-reputable-poster anxiously await the audit.
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Calypsa Aeurelieus
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Posted - 2010.10.18 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Calypsa Aeurelieus on 18/10/2010 03:46:31 It was a statement correlating the items we are speaking about. The fact is if you aren't comfortable with my audit, then don't believe it. If you aren't comfortable with an IPO, don't invest. I'm merely here to do what NetherAnthem has asked me to do, and that is an audit on the accounts he disclosed to me. I'm going to stop posting because this is the second or third person who is trying to discredit me. There is nothing to say I won't scam, but there is nothing to say I will. I'm going to just keep shut and let my work do the talking. If you agree with what I find, so be it. If you don't, that's fine too. But please don't derail someone's thread, or try to just stop what they are looking to do out of pure suspicion. It's just not tasteful.
EDIT: Also the OP is willing to give out his full api to investors to secure this, so me as an auditor is only one of the steps he/she has taken. RISK will never go away. RISK will never decrease in a virtual world where anyone, anytime, anywhere can just leave the game, take your isk, etc. RISK only changes in value when you make it so, but the actual risk remains the same because once the ISK leaves your hands it doesn't matter how many audits, posts, or safety nets were put up, if they want to run with the isk, they will.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.18 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kosher Jew IPO starter is using alt to audit himself for the 2.5b heist of newly-****-named-alts.
Sleep on it next time fool. I don't need a posting history to end this thread.
Nicely tried, but no. Will send an EVE mail this evening to breaker to arrange something so he can confirm the other audit. Oh and yeah, if you read you'd see all investors still have my full API.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.18 08:55:00 -
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@Calypsa Aeurelieus replying to the comments off others.
The road to auditing is not an easy one as you easily see.
What Breaker said was not to read as in "MUST POAST MUCH".
What he was saying is that you need some tell tale records about what you think, did and do.
Those are about the one way to let the others know you. This is necessary, because even if you audit for free, the others would like to know:
- if you learned from someone else (I noticed I asked multiple auditors to teach me the basics but little public auditors (or wannabes) ever ask about being teached. They just "crop up" from nowhere already pretend-learned.
- your ideas and beliefs
- your work in progress, if any
So, he does not want you Bad Bobby-ze the readers, but you do stuff that can be checked which in a forum it means posting something relevant.
Doing an audit "with" Breaker77 (as it seems) is a great opportunity to prove your ability. Take the most advantage off this you can, because it's rare to have this kind of chances, I dare say they come once a year.
- Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.10.18 11:15:00 -
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I would be more than happy with a 'paired' audit done by both Breaker and Calypsa. It would probably be worth your while applying to the audit fund for help in covering the costs of the audit.
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2010.10.18 12:14:00 -
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inb4 audit the auditor.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Netheranthem
Will send an EVE mail this evening to breaker to arrange something so he can confirm the other audit. Oh and yeah, if you read you'd see all investors still have my full API.
I'll do it for you free. Just mail me your full API.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.18 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Netheranthem
Will send an EVE mail this evening to breaker to arrange something so he can confirm the other audit. Oh and yeah, if you read you'd see all investors still have my full API.
I'll do it for you free. Just mail me your full API.
Sent. Expect a payout once your work is done too, especially if you're willing to help Calypsa
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.10.18 18:23:00 -
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Put me down for 1 billion if anyone pulls out. Pending review of audit results, of course.
Thanks!
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.19 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Netheranthem
Sent.
Received, will start to work on it tomorrow.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.20 07:19:00 -
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Thanks for your interest and offers of loan after it's been filled. From the moment the audits are released, I'll let everyone one week to confirm and send their part, or I will leave you their part. If this doesn't happen, I still have a trading alt, and once this bond is finished, you'll have the occasion to invest in it :)
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Calypsa Aeurelieus
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Posted - 2010.10.21 15:48:00 -
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Just as an update. Expecting my audit to be done at earliest Sunday, at latest Tueday Evening. Depending on if I get called into work RL this weekend.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.21 19:18:00 -
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Thanks, just be sure you're finished before the API key restrictions :)
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Jan VanRijkdom
Gallente Jan VanRijkdom Investments
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Posted - 2010.10.22 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Netheranthem
Will send an EVE mail this evening to breaker to arrange something so he can confirm the other audit. Oh and yeah, if you read you'd see all investors still have my full API.
I'll do it for you free. Just mail me your full API.
Most Generous of you Breaker.
I guess there are a few philanthropic gentlemen/ladies(naaw, who am I kidding, GIRLS don't play Internet Spaceships ) left in EvE.
I'm very interested in the double-audit, very rarely seen in the wild.
But no, I'm keenly awaiting comparing findings, I guess we'll find out if the so-called auditor is polished enough to graduate/'level-up' to the solo-auditor class.
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Calypsa Aeurelieus
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Posted - 2010.10.23 19:29:00 -
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My audit has concluded.
It can be viewed here: NetherAnthem Audit
If you have questions or would like more detailed explainations/information about anything, don't hesitate to contact me via evemail.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.23 19:36:00 -
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Awesome, just waiting for breaker77 now. It is true I've been switching corps quickly, dipping my toes in 0.0 and finding it too cold for me :P
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.23 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Netheranthem Awesome, just waiting for breaker77 now. It is true I've been switching corps quickly, dipping my toes in 0.0 and finding it too cold for me :P
Well it's going to be hard to finish my audit since I was only given API keys for 1 account out of 4 
Otherwise the info from Netheranthem and Nethernether pretty much match up to what I have with the exception of assets.
According to EMMA, it shows no assets at all for either character aside from a bestower and ibis. So either EMMA is messing up OR EMMA showed it pulled assets and it couldn't pull any due to the 24 hour cooldown on the API, but that is odd EMMA showed no errors on pulling the assets. That would explain why he's filling buy orders and has no items to show for it.
The wallet balance and trading activity match up to what I found.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.23 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Netheranthem Awesome, just waiting for breaker77 now. It is true I've been switching corps quickly, dipping my toes in 0.0 and finding it too cold for me :P
Well it's going to be hard to finish my audit since I was only given API keys for 1 account out of 4 
Otherwise the info from Netheranthem and Nethernether pretty much match up to what I have with the exception of assets.
According to EMMA, it shows no assets at all for either character aside from a bestower and ibis. So either EMMA is messing up OR EMMA showed it pulled assets and it couldn't pull any due to the 24 hour cooldown on the API, but that is odd EMMA showed no errors on pulling the assets. That would explain why he's filling buy orders and has no items to show for it.
The wallet balance and trading activity match up to what I found.
I can give you the keys if the extra work doesn't scare you. Also the assets have been likely sold, since these were moved for sale to netheranthem.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.23 20:53:00 -
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Ok, I received the 3 other API keys and did a pull of the API data and a posting search through eve search.
TBH, Calypsa did a great job for a first audit.
Even after switching to EWA, I'm still having issues with assets so it has to be the 24 hour cooldown timer on Netheranthems account. The other accounts pulled assets just fine. 
I'm not doing to do a big detailed breakdown of everything since Calypsa's audit pretty much matches up to my findings. The only differences are wallet balance and buy/sell orders. That would depend when we pulled API info and the discrepancy can be accounted for due to the buy/sell orders being filled.
The only ISK transfers that show up in the wallet journal are to/from his own characters, Calypsa, and myself.
There are no adverse posts by any of the characters as reported by eve search.
If anyone wishes me to post a detailed audit, I will amend the one I had written up to include the new accounts and post it.
Disclaimer: As with any offering there is always risk. This report in no way guarantees that the offering will be successful, only that the OP's claims have been verified and that he does not appear to have any ties or business dealings with known scammers.
As always invest what you can afford to lose.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.23 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Netheranthem on 23/10/2010 21:01:16 Awesome, now you've got the audits and can make your decision, I'll leave 1 week to either decline the offer (In which case the two people who offered to replace any missing bond will get the opportunity to invest) or if you still want to go on with the loan, please send the ISK and I will acknowledge everything I received here :)
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.10.23 21:02:00 -
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I'm in.
Thanks to both the auditors for their good work!
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Jan VanRijkdom
Gallente Jan VanRijkdom Investments
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Posted - 2010.10.24 03:46:00 -
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Nice looking audit Calypsa.
If anyone pulls out ill throw in a humble 250m.
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Chigy
Minmatar Sexually Transmitted Pregnancy
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Posted - 2010.10.24 14:34:00 -
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500 mil sent
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.24 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chigy 500 mil sent
Recieved. Interests for you due the: 11/23, 12/23, 01/22. Will edit first post to take track of that.
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Tal'gitor
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.10.24 16:37:00 -
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250M isk sent.
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.24 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tal'gitor 250M isk sent.
Recieved
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.10.24 17:00:00 -
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1 bil sent (from my alt).
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Netheranthem
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Posted - 2010.10.24 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Netheranthem on 24/10/2010 17:03:29
Originally by: RAW23 1 bil sent (from my alt).
Recieved
Missing now: Xilael 500 mil and Lost Hamster 250 mil.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.24 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Netheranthem
Missing now: Xilael 500 mil and Lost Hamster 250 mil.
If anyone pulls out I'll cover the remaining after Jan VanRijkdom
Originally by: Jan VanRijkdom
If anyone pulls out ill throw in a humble 250m.
I'd evemail the other two that reserved and give them a couple of days then go from there, but thats just my opinion.
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Xilael
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Posted - 2010.10.25 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Netheranthem Missing now: Xilael 500 mil
Sent it right now from the Wallet of my corp. Sorry, I was away over the weekend.
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