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Herrring
Amarr BLAHss
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Posted - 2010.10.17 20:40:00 -
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I am currently training for a pilgrim but I am not sure it would be good for solo due to its short range of neuts, slow speed and drone dependency for dps.
Are pilgrims good for killing ratting ships and gtfo before help arrives?
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Tera Mcbitchypants
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Posted - 2010.10.17 21:21:00 -
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Any tech 3. Anti interdiction modual and covert ops cloak what more do you want.
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Supercon
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Posted - 2010.10.17 21:21:00 -
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Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
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Herrring
Amarr BLAHss
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Posted - 2010.10.17 21:36:00 -
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lol, worstcase, i will just leave my cloaky toon afk all day since i have my game on all day anyway even when im outside or not playing/sleeping and gank only if im sure.
Anyway some people I know live on ganking solo ratters but they use covops cynos or proteus.
I just wanted to know if there was any other ship that could do this solo without using a proteus as i couldnt fly any gallente ships.
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Mella Elcus
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Posted - 2010.10.18 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
More like they or their bot warps away to a safespot and cloaks, or to a POS or station etc as soon as they see you in local.
Good luck... but you won't succeed.
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Herrring
Amarr BLAHss
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Posted - 2010.10.18 04:07:00 -
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Well.. i have patience and i leave my game on all day(not necessarily playing) and night.
I have in the past stalked/spawnkilled people for multiple hours when i had nothing to do in other mmos and stayed in a system for 23 hours during a wardec when the WT wouldnt undock when any of my corp mates were in system, while i was watching a movie, outside or sleeping so waiting is not really a problem for me.
My eve experience in PVP has been mostly gang/blob experience so i just wanted to try some soloing, but if that means shutting down a system with my presence that works too.
BTW did CCP ever buff the blackops cov-cyno lock range? I was inactive for a few monthes wonder if they ever did buff blackops.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.18 06:42:00 -
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I hear solo bomber is pretty good ___________________
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Herrring
Amarr BLAHss
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Posted - 2010.10.18 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo I hear solo bomber is pretty good
Lol, I think i will try that sometimes soon, as my alt can fly a stealth bomber as well could dual box two bombers.
Thanks, didnt think bombers could do enough solo.
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Captain Blart
Hideous Mutant Freekz
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Posted - 2010.10.18 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them.
Why's that ? I read 0.0 is full of mean and lewt pvpers who are not afraid of loosing ships , just wondering why....
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Cpt Smasher
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Posted - 2010.10.18 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Blart
Originally by: Supercon Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them.
Why's that ? I read 0.0 is full of mean and lewt pvpers who are not afraid of loosing ships , just wondering why....
Because ratting is lewt pvp. 
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Gryganne
Gallente Rockhound Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.18 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.10.19 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
Carebears like yourself make me giggle.    Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.19 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Herrring I am currently training for a pilgrim but I am not sure it would be good for solo due to its short range of neuts, slow speed and drone dependency for dps.
Are pilgrims good for killing ratting ships and gtfo before help arrives?
Neut's range will not be an issue since Pilgrim can warp cloaked and sneak up right to the target's tailpipe before uncloaking.
Pilgrims are still faster than 99% of battleships out there.
It will be good enough firepower if you attack selectively. You'll get to know exactly what your victim is tanked against so you can attack the resist hole. Tipping over an active PVE tank is a lot easier than it look.
The following statement is not my signature. The preceding statement is my signature. |

SwissChris1
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Posted - 2010.10.19 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mutant Caldari
Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
Carebears like yourself make me giggle.   
Haha yeah Supercon posting with an alt is sooo threatening  
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VanNostrum
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Posted - 2010.10.19 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: VanNostrum on 19/10/2010 09:06:18 Pilgrim is great You can gank any turret based ship unless they're heavily buffer tanked (which they're not, while ratting)
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Arec Evisnetni
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Posted - 2010.10.19 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
Bla bla bla, that was the most useless reply in this post. Instead of giving the OP some advice, you chose to put time into something nobody cares about. |

Armtoe
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo I hear solo bomber is pretty good
If you dont mind me asking -- how do you handle the light drones some of your targets were carrying? So far I've been getting chewed up.
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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Armtoe
Originally by: Intigo I hear solo bomber is pretty good
If you dont mind me asking -- how do you handle the light drones some of your targets were carrying? So far I've been getting chewed up.
At a guess....bombs?
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 19/10/2010 18:49:37 No bombs, look at the fit.
My maxed out bomber character does almost 800 DPS when overloaded (that's with implants too), your DPS is your true tank. The solo Bomber relies on the people you hunt being incompetent. If they are not, they are quite likely to survive.
But they are anomaly grinding newbies, the likelyhood of them being incompetent is very, very high.
I don't really deal with light drones - it's always a DPS race if they put them out. Any armor tanking BS is likely to die before he's finished recalling his Ogres though. If not, overload everything, align out and warp if you can't tank them. I have lots plenty of kills due to light drones, but that's the price you pay for being a 800 DPS glass cannon. ___________________
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PhalHell
Minmatar Maverick Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.22 07:48:00 -
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What are the tactics ? BS only ? Also Cruisers ? How these torpedo's do against Frigs ? I build this baby and I have a DPS of 1445 and 60750 range with Caldari Bane Torps. A BS can have effective hitpoints around 37000. I don't see how you can win that solo.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.22 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: PhalHell What are the tactics ? BS only ? Also Cruisers ? How these torpedo's do against Frigs ? I build this baby and I have a DPS of 1445 and 60750 range with Caldari Bane Torps. A BS can have effective hitpoints around 37000. I don't see how you can win that solo.
What...
Actually, nevermind. It's fairly obvious how it works, you are a bit too stupid to even think about attempting it for another year or so.
And yes, mostly BS only. The odd armor-tanked Ishtar is doable too. ___________________
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People's elbow
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Posted - 2010.10.22 12:45:00 -
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If you are solo, your best bet is WH. You can't be spotted before attacking if your are doing well... and in the most case if you have efficient ship/skill you can kill the target before the back-up.
With a T3 ship and good fit you can manage to have +- 500 dps with cloak and probes.
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PhalHell
Minmatar Maverick Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.22 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: PhalHell What are the tactics ? BS only ? Also Cruisers ? How these torpedo's do against Frigs ? I build this baby and I have a DPS of 1445 and 60750 range with Caldari Bane Torps. A BS can have effective hitpoints around 37000. I don't see how you can win that solo.
What...
Actually, nevermind. It's fairly obvious how it works, you are a bit too stupid to even think about attempting it for another year or so.
And yes, mostly BS only. The odd armor-tanked Ishtar is doable too.
Wrong, I'm not an idiot but I don't see how you defend against frigs without bombs in this config. And how do you dodge fire with the glass canon. What range do you typically use ? 25, 30 ? Closing in ? from 55 ?
Just asking...
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Vol Arm'OOO
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Posted - 2010.10.22 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 19/10/2010 18:49:37 No bombs, look at the fit.
My maxed out bomber character does almost 800 DPS when overloaded (that's with implants too), your DPS is your true tank. The solo Bomber relies on the people you hunt being incompetent. If they are not, they are quite likely to survive.
But they are anomaly grinding newbies, the likelyhood of them being incompetent is very, very high.
I don't really deal with light drones - it's always a DPS race if they put them out. Any armor tanking BS is likely to die before he's finished recalling his Ogres though. If not, overload everything, align out and warp if you can't tank them. I have lots plenty of kills due to light drones, but that's the price you pay for being a 800 DPS glass cannon.
Most guides I've seen have you orbiting at about 20k at max speed. Is that how you approach the target? Also why do you use an ab instead of an mwd -- is it to get the extra ballistic control?
Thxs in advance. -Arm
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Vol Arm'OOO
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Posted - 2010.10.22 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: PhalHell
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: PhalHell What are the tactics ? BS only ? Also Cruisers ? How these torpedo's do against Frigs ? I build this baby and I have a DPS of 1445 and 60750 range with Caldari Bane Torps. A BS can have effective hitpoints around 37000. I don't see how you can win that solo.
What...
Actually, nevermind. It's fairly obvious how it works, you are a bit too stupid to even think about attempting it for another year or so.
And yes, mostly BS only. The odd armor-tanked Ishtar is doable too.
Wrong, I'm not an idiot but I don't see how you defend against frigs without bombs in this config. And how do you dodge fire with the glass canon. What range do you typically use ? 25, 30 ? Closing in ? from 55 ?
Just asking...
From what I've read -- you approach cloaked and decloak at 20km where you orbit at max speed. There is no targeting delay cause you are in an sb. Of course it hasnt worked out so well for me so far, but i'm hoping that its just a skill level and targeting selection issue for me and not tactics.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.22 22:11:00 -
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Yeah, obviously don't fight frigates. Orbit ~15km or whatever range you want. The AB is there to make the fit as high DPS as possible, I want the T2 damage rig so I can push almost 800 DPS overloaded (as previously mentioned).
Just logged into EVE for the first time in a week and took out a Raven in an anomaly. As they start smacking me in local I check the scanner and see a Dominix still doing anomalies as well.
tecbandido > dessiri hijo de puta
So I killed the Dominix as well.
Oh carebears, how I love thee. Now, back to Darkfall. ___________________
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.10.23 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Supercon Try fitting a fail fit on your ship so that me and my folks can kill you faster if we ever spot you in our space.
Anyways, good luck trying to kills a solo 0.0 ratter. Most of them don't rat alone in an empty system anyways. They generally stick to their own corp-owned systems where they know they will have immediate backup in case some random neut tries to pull a fast one on them. And if you do find someone ratting alone in a system, their friends are not far away. And if you succeed, well... kudos to you for your accidental luck.
And if you come into my system, be warned... you won't succeed.
Wow, this is the most ******ed **** post I've read over the past few days.
I can only support what Intigo is suggesting. Killing ratters solo in a bomber is a very nice variation and something that makes for loads of "epic lulz". It's also fairly easy, the bad tank vs light drones aside. Either lots of ratters don't care because they see nothing on scan, or they think a 500-700dps ship is no threat to their ratting ship. 
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Samuel Wess
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Posted - 2010.10.23 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Now, back to Darkfall.
I had to see what is this Darkfall :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK9TQtPApmY&feature=related me |

Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.24 09:06:00 -
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That's a pretty bad video though. 
I prefer watching good players. ___________________
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Lt Angus
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.10.24 10:53:00 -
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Loki, its such a perfect ship, gets my yarr of approval  How I'd Fix Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |
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