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Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 11:25:00 - [1] Edited by: Camios on 18/10/2010 11:35:42 As you can see the extraction mechanic in PI has changed, and you are free to move your extraction heads for no cost in a quite big radius around the ECU. There is a limit to the distance at which you can put your extraction heads from the ECUs, but it's very large. On a big gas planet I can save 2500PG for every extraction head with this mechanic, because an ECU has a max distance of around 15000 km, and links between ECUs and extraction heads don't waste PG/CPU. This actually means that we no longer need to take into consideration the length of lines, we don't need anymore to place carefully our PINs to reduce the waste of PG and CPU due to links and link upgrades. In my opinion, it would be better if the PG and CPU requirement for every ECU does depend on the distance between the ECU and its heads, because we would keep the best feature of PI right now, that is a challenging routing system.
Chruker	Posted - 2010.10.18 11:51:00 - [2] The quantity of extraction heads do influence the ECU's CPU and PG need. But yes the lines no longer require CPU or PG. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 11:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Chruker The quantity of extraction heads do influence the ECU's CPU and PG need. But yes the lines no longer require CPU or PG. Yes, I know. I repeat, this makes setting up your colony less challenging. You need to think less than before, we're loosing something in the depth of the game.
Draco Argen	Posted - 2010.10.18 14:46:00 - [4] I have to agree with the OP. It would be fine if Extractor links cost less than normal links, which gives a bit or a range boost, but there should be a penalty for stretching extractors over great ranges. It may have felt like a pain at the time, but juggling extractors distance vs their yield to get a balance of number vs location was actually quite satisfying. Squeezing out those 8 points of power to enable me to get an extra extractor or processor.
Crazy KSK	Posted - 2010.10.18 17:05:00 - [5] agreed
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.18 18:13:00 - [6] àand speaking of routes, I sure hope that the new requirement to (re)route your materials every time you restart an ECU is a bug and that it will be fixed before release. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Monte Shill	Posted - 2010.10.18 19:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Camios Yes, I know. I repeat, this makes setting up your colony less challenging. You need to think less than before, we're loosing something in the depth of the game. FFS, pull your head out of the sand. How challenging is this: Set up colony, squeeze as much PG/CPU you need, click submit, and DONE! Once the extractors are set and the processors are running, where is the challenge once you reset them every day and export the product. Yes, a whole lot thinking done once you over come the challenge. Might take a couple of days to balance out to be perfect, but there is nothing else to do. Sounds like you can now have incredibly long links between your reactors, storage, processor, back to storage while having a much larger radius to extract and you don't need to blob those two perfect hotspots for different resources on a plasma planet to make a product like Enriched Uranium. You can spread out over the entire planet! I gave up trying to get on test server (tired of the failing corrupted file patch that doesn't fix itself and loops over), but it seems like CCP is giving you the option to expand yourself, you already said you could save a good chunk of PG on a gas planet that already eats up more PG/CPU then smaller planets where you can get more buildings set up then the larger planets.
Cresalle	Posted - 2010.10.19 01:22:00 - [8] Agree with OP.
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.19 11:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Monte Shill Originally by: Camios Yes, I know. I repeat, this makes setting up your colony less challenging. You need to think less than before, we're loosing something in the depth of the game. FFS, pull your head out of the sand. How challenging is this: Set up colony, squeeze as much PG/CPU you need, click submit, and DONE! Once the extractors are set and the processors are running, where is the challenge once you reset them every day and export the product. Yes, a whole lot thinking done once you over come the challenge. Might take a couple of days to balance out to be perfect, but there is nothing else to do. Sounds like you can now have incredibly long links between your reactors, storage, processor, back to storage while having a much larger radius to extract and you don't need to blob those two perfect hotspots for different resources on a plasma planet to make a product like Enriched Uranium. You can spread out over the entire planet! I gave up trying to get on test server (tired of the failing corrupted file patch that doesn't fix itself and loops over), but it seems like CCP is giving you the option to expand yourself, you already said you could save a good chunk of PG on a gas planet that already eats up more PG/CPU than smaller planets where you can get more buildings set up than the larger planets. I'll tell you my point of view in another way. PI is dumbed down. I don't want free PG and CPU if it means making the game more stupid.
About Mesale	Posted - 2010.10.19 11:59:00 - [10] You're implying there was depth in PI. There is not. Therefore, it can not lose any depth - it already is at the rock bottom of game design.
Lirinas	Posted - 2010.10.19 12:26:00 - [11] Originally by: About Mesale You're implying there was depth in PI. There is not. Therefore, it can not lose any depth - it already is at the rock bottom of game design. I'll agree to that!
Lorelei Lee	Posted - 2010.10.19 14:08:00 - [12] I agree with OP. There was depth in PI, if you looked for it. It was a tinkerer's toy. Being five years old, income from PI is barely noticeable to me, but I still spent countless hours perfecting my processing scheme and enjoyed the process immensely.
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.20 11:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Lirinas Originally by: About Mesale You're implying there was depth in PI. There is not. Therefore, it can not lose any depth - it already is at the rock bottom of game design. I'll agree to that! 2 trolls at the price of one. For humans out there: setting up your infrastructure maximizing extraction (and money) output trying to save that bit of powergrid to get some other extractors is quite a challenge. If you did not experience these difficulties, it means that your colony is probably not efficient.
Tiralys	Posted - 2011.01.18 17:44:00 - [14] What i dont understand is, my link from my ecu to my spaceport cannot handle all the extraction materials, making me use one ecu per extractor, which makes this whole process very useless to me as i have to click each ecu anyway. Am i missing something?
Tiralys	Posted - 2011.01.18 17:59:00 - [15] If my routes from the ecu to the spaceport are all overloaded, and i need multiple ecus , how is this helping me? Am i missing something?
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2011.01.18 18:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Tiralys If my routes from the ecu to the spaceport are all overloaded, and i need multiple ecus , how is this helping me? Am i missing something? Have you tried upgrading the link? ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Matthew Have you tried upgrading the link? Shhh.... I got a lot of stock that depends on rising prices while people **** around trying to figure things out.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.19 06:20:00 - [18] I wish i knew more about PI... but it sounds like it may be a good time to step into it. I might hazard a guess though to the OP, do you mean it would be better if for eg, every 100km in expanding radius from the center of your operations, an extractor has to use an extra x% of power and y% of CPU, increasing linearly out to 1500 km? So, at under 100km for eg, there is no extra CPU/grid hit, but out to 1500km, there would be a 30% hit to power and cpu?

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