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Daergaar
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.18 21:58:00 -
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So, I'm flying a Nighthawk in PvE (it was a gift) that's passive tanked. I haven't got the money for anything more expensive.
For background, I've got all the relevant missile, shield, and fitting skills at level 5. I'm a battlecruiser specialist and have been for over 2 years. I use a dedicated salvager if and when I choose to salvage a particular mission.
Now, for my question, what should I stick in the 7th high slot? I had the lolworthy idea of sticking a Medium Beam Laser II (a small laser) in there (I have advanced laser skills up at 4 for small beam and pulse lasers). This comes from the fact that I don't have many skills for hybrids or projectiles, and that I didn't want to use up ammo.
It's meant to help me kill frigates/assist my drones. Should I keep using this, or something else? I don't have the powergrid left for a medium size gun there. Because I just learned T2 lasers, should I be bothering with a T2 crystal as well, even though it's for supplementary purposes?
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.10.18 22:23:00 -
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I've played with similar ideas (using hybrids though) and it's not really worked well for me. The additional DPS is not noticeable and doesn't help. Maybe a drone link aug?
I usually throw a salvager on my drake, and pick up a wreck or two while I am finishing off the last mobs.
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The Newface
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Posted - 2010.10.18 22:36:00 -
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Depends on where you use it, in 0.0 a smartbomb may be useful
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Xina Tutor
Amarr
Black Arrows
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.10.19 01:51:00 -
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I use a t2 fitted nighthawk for 0.0 anoms and lvl4's in hisec. nice ship that can do just about anything. in 0.0 I use a probe launcher to probe anoms, so that is easy. in lvl 4's I just fit a drone link. can't think of much better really.
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NewGit
Caldari
Rusty Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.19 01:58:00 -
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Yeah, I was going to suggest fitting a Omnidirectional Tracking Link as well. Give your drones a little extra boost so they can kill the small stuff faster.
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Trebor Whettam
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Posted - 2010.10.19 04:04:00 -
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I'd fit a tractor beam, same as on a CNR.
A gun will just be a source of distraction with how little dps it does. A Drone link augmentor is very rarely useful on a ship that uses light scout drones to kill frigates. The tractor beam will allow you to pull in nearby loot and (much more importantly) mission items.
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Daergaar
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.19 04:27:00 -
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Edited by: Daergaar on 19/10/2010 04:29:47
 Originally by: Trebor Whettam
I'd fit a tractor beam, same as on a CNR.
A gun will just be a source of distraction with how little dps it does. A Drone link augmentor is very rarely useful on a ship that uses light scout drones to kill frigates. The tractor beam will allow you to pull in nearby loot and (much more importantly) mission items.
I'm using T1 light drones...range isn't really the issue with them. I have about 47k SP in drones, yes, that's k, as in thousand. They just suck, which is why I had the gun to help them out. Maybe the story would be different with T2 drones.
I have a fair bit of brain bandwidth left in a passive tanked missile spamming ship, so firing the gun isn't really an issue either. A lot of times I just fire all my missiles at a frigate and kill it (go go explosion velocity bonus).
Really my only options are:
-a small gun, which does relatively low DPS
-a basic probe launcher, but I'm missioning so I don't know that this would be useful
-a tractor beam, although I've got a dedicated salvage ship for the rare times I salvage
-a salvager, but without a tractor as well, it's pretty worthless
-a drone link augmentor, which does...nothing considering I just sit on the accel gate orbiting it at 1 km and most NPC ships come in close, especially frigates that I might let drones loose on.
-an auto targeting system, which gives me a +2 bonus to the maximum amount of targets I can have targeted, so I go from 8 to 10
-a small smartbomb (not enough powergrid for larger)...most ships don't get within 2km.
-a small energy vampire or neutralizer, but I don't really use cap, and using these on NPC ships has a relatively minor effect
-a warfare link module, but I'm short the powergrid, and I fly alone
-a cyno generator, but that's useless for missioning
The options aren't looking good. I think the auto targeter, small gun, and tractor beam are the top contenders right now.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.10.19 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: NewGit
Yeah, I was going to suggest fitting a Omnidirectional Tracking Link as well. Give your drones a little extra boost so they can kill the small stuff faster.
that's a midslot 
Originally by: Trebor Whettam
I'd fit a tractor beam, same as on a CNR.
A gun will just be a source of distraction with how little dps it does. A Drone link augmentor is very rarely useful on a ship that uses light scout drones to kill frigates. The tractor beam will allow you to pull in nearby loot and (much more importantly) mission items.
I agree with the tractor beam.
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Trebor Whettam
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Posted - 2010.10.19 06:17:00 -
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I have about 47k SP in drones, yes, that's k, as in thousand.
I think we've identified a problem much more pressing relatively useless seventh high slot. 
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Aichi Awara
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Posted - 2010.10.19 07:37:00 -
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First: I wasn't even aware you can fit gun to 7th slot! That's fun observation from OP.
As of question about 7th slot; I have used auto targeting system for I have t2 drones and they chew through frigs pretty fast and it's always "easier" just to target most of the rats on the first go. That's when I'm operating in "safe" space.
In low sec I used improved guise cloaking device to those moments someone is trying to probe you. Also smaller penalties than other cloaks.
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Xina Tutor
Amarr
Black Arrows
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.10.19 09:46:00 -
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Well there is always a small remote rep in case your drones get bruised :P
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Sessym
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Whettam
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I have about 47k SP in drones, yes, that's k, as in thousand.
I think we've identified a problem much more pressing relatively useless seventh high slot.
It is widely agreed that unless you are losing them often, t2 drones will make a huge difference. In fact, a set of t2 lights should be able to slowly eat a mission BS!
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NewGit
Caldari
Rusty Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: NewGit
Yeah, I was going to suggest fitting a Omnidirectional Tracking Link as well. Give your drones a little extra boost so they can kill the small stuff faster.
that's a midslot
Doh ! That's what I get for not paying attention to the details (and apparently never trying to fit one myself) ! 
(When I have a free high slot, I generally fit a shield transfer array in case I screw up and the alt ends up taking all the aggro instead of the main.)
But definitely, get the drone skills up. I don't even bother trying to sic them on targets. Once I have the aggro I let loose the drones and concentrate on the big stuff. I find the drones take care of the little stuff all on their own (though sometimes I wonder at their target selection process).
I often have my salvager in the room while the drones are still polishing off the last of the Frigs/Dessies/Cruisers/What-evers. On certain missions I save the trigger BS until the end, let the drones chew on him until I've cleared the room of loot/salvage, then recall the drones and finish off the trigger (while the salvager is warping out of course).
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xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2010.10.19 19:55:00 -
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Its a utility high...so use for.... well... whatever you think would be useful. Anti frig weapon like youre doing, or drone link, or NOS, or whatever.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.19 20:33:00 -
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I used to fit a tractor. Recently I have tried lasers and rails but finally settled on an autocannon for the amusement (it's got the best sound and visuals, imo). I overheat it a lot, maybe too much. How daring.
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