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Law'abidin Citizen
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:16:00 -
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I've returned from a lengthy hiatus (about a year and some odd months) and i'm wondering what happened to the typhoon in my absence? As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup. Yet i've not seen or heard much about the phoon since I came back.
Whatever happened to the most amazing ship that almost nobody could fly perfectly? It had been my goal, prior to my absence, to have perfect skills for a typhoon. Is it still worth it?
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:27:00 -
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For PVE they are still popular. With regards to nullsec and PVP? I'd say all battleships are on a temporary vacation. It's the age of the supercarrier. People are flying drake fleets backed by scimitars or AHAC fleets w/ Guardians. Fighterbombers will get a subcap nerf with Incursion so expect battleship fleets to make a comeback after that.
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Law'abidin Citizen
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:31:00 -
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Ah, I hadn't quite put the pieces together, but that does make sense.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
CareBears on Fire
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:42:00 -
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Typhoon pilot signing in.
I love my phoon, and the 5/3 arrangement makes it, in my opinion, much more versatile.
--Vel
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Millsy1
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Posted - 2010.10.20 03:22:00 -
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I still like it. However, it's not that the 5/5 slots (or 5/3 if you want to be technical) didn't make it better. It's just that with the upgrade autocannons and artillery got, the Maelstrom became -more- better, at least when it comes to fleet stuff. Sure the Typhoon can do more DPS on a pos shoot, but who wants to reload that often.
I still like the Typhoon for a cheap ship that can put out a ton of DPS, while neuting someone dry, have some mid slots for tackle/Painter/whatever, and is fast enough to not be completely left behind. OR for giggles, a passive shield tank that actually doesn't suck.
And yes. it took a long time to get to the point where I was done training stuff for the typhoon :| 5 years or something. and I've probably still got a level 5 somewhere I could squeeze out if I looked hard enough. But ever since I got the Panther a year and a half or so ago, I really haven't flown anything other than a loki on a regular basis.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.20 15:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Law'abidin Citizen
I've returned from a lengthy hiatus (about a year and some odd months) and i'm wondering what happened to the typhoon in my absence? As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup. Yet i've not seen or heard much about the phoon since I came back.
Whatever happened to the most amazing ship that almost nobody could fly perfectly? It had been my goal, prior to my absence, to have perfect skills for a typhoon. Is it still worth it?
Typhoon is still the swiss army knife of new eden. I prefer the fleet edition.
Heated leather seats and all.
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Scared Strait
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Posted - 2010.10.21 00:25:00 -
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Seconding the fact bs have no place in 0.0 anymore. AHAC just dominates bs gangs even when incredibly outnumbered.
I think the last time I undocked the phoon was to bait a stealth bomber... Long story short, the way to get back in the game in terms of large scale pvp is flying a drake, zealot, guardian, scimitar, or a supercap. And by large scale pvp I ofc mean 0.0. If you think lolsec is real pvp then you're just kidding yourself.
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.21 06:47:00 -
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Typhoon is my favorate affordable ship, but like others have said, its kinda useless atm. When RR-BB gangs were used (they were popular for a bit to take out cyno-jammers) I would fly my phoon, and thats really the last use I had for her, before that ther was lowsec piracy in BBs, but thats long long gone too (ended with WtZ really). . . perhaps before the game totally takes a dive, they (and battleships in general) will become useful in a meaninful way again.
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Headerman
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Posted - 2010.10.21 08:05:00 -
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I love my phoon, i use it as much as i can
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Natasha Hec
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.10.21 08:28:00 -
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Love mine too, its probably one of the only bs that is in any way viable to fly solo due to its versatility. Makes a good ship in short range rr bs gangs too
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Petrov Kreigt
Caldari
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2010.10.21 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Seconding the fact bs have no place in 0.0 anymore. AHAC just dominates bs gangs even when incredibly outnumbered.
I think the last time I undocked the phoon was to bait a stealth bomber... Long story short, the way to get back in the game in terms of large scale pvp is flying a drake, zealot, guardian, scimitar, or a supercap. And by large scale blobbing and stupidly huge gatecampls I ofc mean 0.0. If you think lolsec is real pvp then you're just kidding yourself.
If you think 0.0 is more than who has more numbers than the other guy then you're an idiot.
Referring to the OP
I love my Typhoon as a gang RR/torp throwing/Target painting dustbin with teeth =D
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:29:00 -
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I fly a Typhoon. Though I don't use it for normal purposes. My Typhoon fit is as follows:
High
1x Large 'Arup' 1 Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
3x Heavy Nosferatu I
2x Small Tractor Beam I
2x Salvager I
Mid
1x 100MN Afterburner I
1x Stasis Webifier I
2x Cap Recharger I
Low
1x Large Armor Repairer I
1x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
2x Membranes (mission specific)
3x Expanded Cargohold II
Drones:
5x Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I
5x Vespa I
It was the easiest ship I could get into which had a 125MB Drone bandwidth for a full fleet of Repair Drones. The absurd amount of high mid and low slots definitely helped in my decision making, too. I use it to support a friend of mine who runs missions while I salvage. I also take care of the smaller ships with my Vespas and webifier when necessary.
It's an odd setup, but it gets the job done.
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Petrov Kreigt
Originally by: Scared Strait
Seconding the fact bs have no place in 0.0 anymore. AHAC just dominates bs gangs even when incredibly outnumbered.
I think the last time I undocked the phoon was to bait a stealth bomber... Long story short, the way to get back in the game in terms of large scale pvp is flying a drake, zealot, guardian, scimitar, or a supercap. And by large scale blobbing and stupidly huge gatecampls I ofc mean 0.0. If you think lolsec is real pvp then you're just kidding yourself.
If you think 0.0 is more than who has more numbers than the other guy then you're an idiot.
Referring to the OP
I love my Typhoon as a gang RR/torp throwing/Target painting dustbin with teeth =D
When you see a killmail where a dozen stealth bombers killed over 100 BS...
Anyways, BS back in the day were the only things that could survive an AoE doomsday. That's not needed anymore and other ships can really come out to play. This in and of itself is not a bad thing. But added to other issues they make 0.0 battleships obsolete. The other things include fighter bombers, stealth bombers, ahac gangs, and insurance changes. The fighter bombers are the really big issue - everything else can be addressed w/ tactics. Or maybe raising ewar out of the horrible current state it's in. 
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 21/10/2010 22:59:58
Originally by: Zarnak Wulf
Or maybe raising ewar out of the horrible current state it's in.
unless you start using AoE ewar, the simple fact is that, it can't scale up enough to keep up with sheer numbers.
ewar boats lose their effectiveness in fleets when numbers start to go above 50 or even less, independently of how much you boost it, because at these numbers it's much more effective to simply bring out another dps boat.
for smaller gangs however? they rule, since they become what they are designed for, and that is "force multiplier".
as for the matter in hand in this thread:
typhoon is still the swiss army knife, and I am of the opinion that one day, when CCP finally decides to change how plates interfere with ships, the typhoon will be brought back to the days of olde, when it was just a tiny bit less agile than a BC.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Law'abidin Citizen
I've returned from a lengthy hiatus (about a year and some odd months) and i'm wondering what happened to the typhoon in my absence? As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup. Yet i've not seen or heard much about the phoon since I came back.
Whatever happened to the most amazing ship that almost nobody could fly perfectly? It had been my goal, prior to my absence, to have perfect skills for a typhoon. Is it still worth it?
Typhoon is still the swiss army knife of new eden. I prefer the fleet edition.
Heated leather seats and all.
Horrible Lies and Untruths! The Dominix is and always will be the swiss army knife. The typhoon is more like the little battleship that could.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.21 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: RC Denton
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Law'abidin Citizen
I've returned from a lengthy hiatus (about a year and some odd months) and i'm wondering what happened to the typhoon in my absence? As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup. Yet i've not seen or heard much about the phoon since I came back.
Whatever happened to the most amazing ship that almost nobody could fly perfectly? It had been my goal, prior to my absence, to have perfect skills for a typhoon. Is it still worth it?
Typhoon is still the swiss army knife of new eden. I prefer the fleet edition.
Heated leather seats and all.
Horrible Lies and Untruths! The Dominix is and always will be the swiss army knife. The typhoon is more like the little battleship that could.
no, dominix is the black swiss army knife, typhoon is the red swiss army knife.
granted a red swiss army knife that is rusty and could use some repairs, but still a swiss army knife.
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Gallente
NME1
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Posted - 2010.10.22 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Law'abidin Citizen
As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup.
They also swapped shield and armor hit points.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.22 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Law'abidin Citizen
I've returned from a lengthy hiatus (about a year and some odd months) and i'm wondering what happened to the typhoon in my absence? As far as I can tell the ship is functionally identical aside from the ability to have 5/3 instead of just 4/4 setup. Yet i've not seen or heard much about the phoon since I came back.
Whatever happened to the most amazing ship that almost nobody could fly perfectly? It had been my goal, prior to my absence, to have perfect skills for a typhoon. Is it still worth it?
Typhoon is still the swiss army knife of new eden. I prefer the fleet edition.
Heated leather seats and all.
seriously this.
you diggin' these cup holders?
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VanNostrum
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Posted - 2010.10.22 07:35:00 -
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BS are good and all but they are terrible vs sub-BS ships using AB
it's not just the tracking, it's the lock time imo...You have huge guns and neuts, but by the time you lock a target either he's already warping away or in your structure with his buddies.
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Riho
Gallente
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.10.22 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Seconding the fact bs have no place in 0.0 anymore. AHAC just dominates bs gangs even when incredibly outnumbered.
I think the last time I undocked the phoon was to bait a stealth bomber... Long story short, the way to get back in the game in terms of large scale pvp is flying a drake, zealot, guardian, scimitar, or a supercap. And by large scale pvp I ofc mean 0.0. If you think lolsec is real pvp then you're just kidding yourself.
lol... if you think ur PVPing in a 300man fleet then lawl.
otherwise... phoon is a sexy dps machine :) i will not fly mine before the BS5 finishes tho.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.10.22 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Seconding the fact bs have no place in 0.0 anymore. AHAC just dominates bs gangs even when incredibly outnumbered.
I think the last time I undocked the phoon was to bait a stealth bomber... Long story short, the way to get back in the game in terms of large scale pvp is flying a drake, zealot, guardian, scimitar, or a supercap. And by large scale pvp I ofc mean 0.0. If you think lolsec is real pvp then you're just kidding yourself.
Numbers != Good fights. Null fleet fights might be awesomely large (accompanied by a heavy dose of lag) on occasion, but honestly, I just don't see the fun (Bubbles and bombs aside).
Lowsec mostly doesn't (yet) suffer from the "drop 20 supercaps" syndrome, which makes it faster, more balanced and less of a pain.
Back on topic. The Phoon is still very much evident in lowsec, at least. IN addition, since you left, they introduced the fleet Phoon, with an extra low, more armour, bigger drone bay and a funky but useless space camouflage so it can hide behind space trees. 
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Scared Strait
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Posted - 2010.10.22 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks
Geee.. how did I know I was bringing all the FW boys to the yard on that last comment?
PS. I'm well aware of very cap-happy individuals who take part in the amarr and matar militas. I think we both know caps/supercaps are seeing action there on a regular basis now.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.10.22 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Geee.. how did I know I was bringing all the FW boys to the yard on that last comment?
PS. I'm well aware of very cap-happy individuals who take part in the amarr and matar militas. I think we both know caps/supercaps are seeing action there on a regular basis now.
Oooh, trolling for points, I see. What about learning to read:
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Lowsec mostly doesn't (yet) suffer from the "drop 20 supercaps" syndrome, which makes it faster, more balanced and less of a pain.
Aka, yes, of course caps get used in lowsec/FW, but a 30 man gang with 1 or 2 caps for repping/drones is a long way from PL dropping 20 supercaps on a single Vindi for lols, which they do, and which is kind of a pain as no one can or wants to compete at that level. To compete at that level lowsec would need to have the financial resources to support it.
Back to you behind the mask at the studio, Steve.
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Scared Strait
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Posted - 2010.10.22 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks
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TL;DR
But from what I gathered whilst skimming syllables and watching re-runs of the golden girls (classic) you're saying PL touched you in a funny place and lulz ensued. Delightful story chap.
Also, the typhoon is sub-par at best.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.10.22 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Originally by: Bomberlocks
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TL;DR
But from what I gathered whilst skimming syllables and watching re-runs of the golden girls (classic) you're saying PL touched you in a funny place and lulz ensued. Delightful story chap.
Also, the typhoon is sub-par at best.
Right down there with your posting and reading ability.
P.S. Wasn't me, and you're still a terrible poaster.
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RavenPaine
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Posted - 2010.10.22 18:11:00 -
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Typhoon is an awsome ship if your skilled for it. Torps do great DPS with great range. Ogre II's in the hold AND ECM drones. 4 mid-slots. 3 utility hi-slots. Whats not to like ?
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Herrring
Amarr
BLAHss
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Posted - 2010.10.23 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Scared Strait
Originally by: Bomberlocks
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TL;DR
But from what I gathered whilst skimming syllables and watching re-runs of the golden girls (classic) you're saying PL touched you in a funny place and lulz ensued. Delightful story chap.
Also, the typhoon is sub-par at best.
Wait, if that was too long for you how did you pass highschool or middle school even.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.23 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 23/10/2010 15:32:10
[Typhoon, 1010]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
100MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Target Painter II
Stasis Webifier II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium L
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]
Berserker II x5
760dps, nos, 35k ehp (I know, but this is a wannabe BC with teh align time of a hurricane)
Its fun, but I only fly it in larger gangs ~10, because you're not nimble enough in smaller and tend to get primaried...and that's alot of points to be losing.
PS - Yes I know dual weapons systems is silly, but so is honor tanking this thing, its for the pure joy of it. Also, the painter increases damage for all three weapons systems and having the BCU's instead of missile rigs drops the price by 9million....which is a crucial factor for this VERY cheap ship.
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