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Seetesh
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:24:00 -
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ok first of pc details of my father inlaws rig
1.7ghz processor quite old now with an old mobo supporting 133mhz ram.
Running windows xp service pack 3
the computer previously had viruses
cpu running idle at 53-57 degrees C
at present the pc turns itself off at random intervals and will not turn back on until i remove the psus power cable and replace it. I am thinking it maybe a psu problem or some heat problems with the cpu as the temperature concerns me. I would welcome other input.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.28 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 28/10/2010 11:57:44
55-ish Celsius at idle (when I suppose ambient is NOT much above 20 Celsius) is a tad bit high *if* the cooling system is at full power.
Are you sure the cooling is "full on" even when the CPU is idle ?
If it's auto-adjusting, that could be almost normal temperature.
Still a bit high, but make sure you're not misinterpreting things.
If that's really the full cooling power temperature at idle, you'll want to look at the cooling system first.
First, re-lubricate the bearings of or maybe even replace the entire fan on if it looks like it's "hanging" as opposed to spinning almost freely. Remove the dust on the heatsink. Give it a whirl, see if that improves the temperature.
If it didn't help, remove the heatsink assembly from the CPU, carefully clean the thermal paste remains if it's hardened (it probably is) and apply fresh paste, then try again. Temperature should go down, but the problem with the shutdown might still persist.
If the CPU cooling system is not the problem, try cleaning the rest of the fans in the PC (especially the one in the PSU). Probably won't help, but meh, what do you have to lose ?
If it doesn't help (it probably won't), borrow a PSU you know to be good to test further.
If you can't borrow one, buy a new PSU, but buy a slightly larger one (450W minimum, preferably 550W), so you can reuse it in the next machine later on (or in the upgraded config if that wasn't he problem either). Shouldn't be THAT expensive.
If it has multiple sticks of RAM, try running with only one of them at a time, see if it still resets.
If you have other RAM of the necessary type available you know to be good, use that for a while... or try using that probably-faulty RAM in another machine that can handle it, see if it causes problems or not.
If that doesn't help either (or you can't test it), it sound like you'd have to replace the motherboard.
If you have trouble finding a dirt-cheap motherboard for that CPU type (you probably will), better just replace both the motherboard and the CPU while you're at it. Probably also the RAM. You'll maybe want to replace the video card too, since your current one is probably AGP, and your new mobo only has PCI-Express slots...
...and the current vidcard probably doesn't have SM3 (so you can't play EVE on that one from next summer onward on it when you visit there, hehe), and a SM3-capable card can rather cheap anyway.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:35:00 -
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Time to retire your system imo, it's pushing 8 yrs old I'm guessing.
TigerDirect has barebones kits that will save you money over piecing a system together, just replace the stuff like psu that come in the kit and you'll be off to the races with a decent machine for like $500-$600.
Example of one of their barebones kits:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6728187&Sku=B69-1231 - $399, probably only have to dump another $200 to make it a decent gaming machine.
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Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Time to retire your system
Originally by: Seetesh
father inlaws rig
I'm guessing "dirt cheap and functional" is the main priority here, with performance a very, very distant second.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:04:00 -
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I would replace the PSU. Or you might have a 'dirty' mains power supply. It's unlikely but worth thinking about there are other electrical gremlins in the house.
Even a P3 1ghz with 256MB RAM can run Windows XP fine if the installation is kept light weight.
So many people who think there PC is too slow because it is really heavily fragmented, full of spyware, other crap and needs a Windows reinstall.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:54:00 -
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"will not turn back on" is rather vague, and if one was to take it literally, it means nothing happens when you push the power button. Basically, the mobo itself should have been able to POST internally and if what you mentioned was literal, it can only point to two things - your PSU (likely one of the output is undervoltaged) or your mobo.
To confirm bad caps, check visually for bulging/leaking/discoloured electrolytic capacitors on the mobo. You can do the same for the PSU, but I'd advise discharging its caps beforehand (press and hold pwr button for a few secs with mains off).
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Posted - 2010.10.28 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke
it can only point to two things - your PSU (likely one of the output is undervoltaged) or your mobo.
yup
my money is on the mobo but that is pure speculation.
it could be both. PSU could be off and slowly taking your motherboard (and possibly other parts) with it
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:11:00 -
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I also think the cpu is overheating. I think it is time to reapply the thermal paste. Just in case check cpu fan, make sure it is working. Try running it with open case, see if the temperature goes way up and computer turns off.
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