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Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.10.29 18:40:00 - [1] Edited by: Miko Nguyen on 29/10/2010 18:42:28 Any good videos of FCs leading and commanding their fleets, be it a small 5 man gang or a 20+ gang? Would love to see how they give directions over voice comms. A video that goes beyond, "XYZ is primary, XYZ is primary" :)
PHoneix NOir	Posted - 2010.10.29 19:13:00 - [2] The only place I can think of that might have what your looking for is perhaps the Eve University website. Although I don't remember if their video's are open to the public.
Igloo Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.10.29 20:23:00 - [3] Buckswanson has several posted on youtube. Tech 1 Frig fight: http://www.youtube.com/user/buckswanson#p/u/2/7vgzDkFBA9Q Navy Domi's: http://www.youtube.com/user/buckswanson#p/u/6/sLlyug_uDmo Probably several others on his channel as well.
GavinGoodrich Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.10.29 20:39:00 - [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI00CrzvPY&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=CzoZ4XsfLn8 good video of Gunny. \o
Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.10.29 22:22:00 - [5] Originally by: GavinGoodrich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI00CrzvPY&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=CzoZ4XsfLn8 good video of Gunny. Major props to you for FCing in a Jaguar. Always thought most would FC in some huge BS.
Lemmy Kravitz Minmatar Rebirth.	Posted - 2010.10.29 23:17:00 - [6] In all honestly there is not much more to properly FC'ing aside from XYZ is primary. XYZ is secondary. Most of what a good FC does is off the mic and before the fight even begins. Making sure they have the pilots, the ships and the fits in position ready to go. After that during a fight, the differnce between a good FC and a bad FC is what they call primary. and when they call to de-agro. ------------------------------------------------- "Vae Victis" -Brennus
Solo Gray Gray Ghost Industrials	Posted - 2010.10.30 03:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Lemmy Kravitz In all honestly there is not much more to properly FC'ing aside from XYZ is primary. XYZ is secondary. Most of what a good FC does is off the mic and before the fight even begins. Making sure they have the pilots, the ships and the fits in position ready to go. After that during a fight, the differnce between a good FC and a bad FC is what they call primary. and when they call to de-agro. I somewhat agree, but Gunny's video is a good example of battle-worthy FC skills; he doesn't shout or get overly emotional, he repeats the primaries and secondaries, and he gives reminder (i.e. "broaceast reps... Spread your points...")
Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.10.30 23:34:00 - [8] What are ideal ships to FC in? I was surprised to see him FC in a jaguar.
Rakrist Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.31 08:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Miko Nguyen What are ideal ships to FC in? I was surprised to see him FC in a jaguar. Anything that typically won't get primaried is good to FC in. A jaguar's actually a pretty good choice. If an FC wanted to be absolutely safe they could use a Cov Ops or a Recon and stay invisible the whole time, but where's the fun in that?
GavinGoodrich Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2010.10.31 14:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Miko Nguyen Originally by: GavinGoodrich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGI00CrzvPY&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=CzoZ4XsfLn8 good video of Gunny. Major props to you for FCing in a Jaguar. Always thought most would FC in some huge BS. ....not quite. That was the camera man. Gunny was in something more sturdy \o
gpfwestie Gallente Westie Engineering	Posted - 2010.11.01 00:00:00 - [11] Gunny's very good, even a plonker like me could follow the instructions. I would have done 2 things differently 1) Primary Guardian when it showed up 2) Primary Abbadons over Megas, as the DPS is comparable but Scorch fitted Abbadons have range to pop your ECM (T1 ECM anyway) Could someone who knows tell my if these calls would be good / bad / indifferent ?
Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.11.01 02:45:00 - [12] Edited by: Miko Nguyen on 01/11/2010 02:48:09 Originally by: Igloo Buckswanson has several posted on youtube. Tech 1 Frig fight: http://www.youtube.com/user/buckswanson#p/u/2/7vgzDkFBA9Q Probably several others on his channel as well. I was watching this again. Not to be too critical since I have little FC experience myself but is it really efficient for the FC to call primary on only 1 frigate at a time and have all 10 other frigates target the primary? Because not all of your corpies are gonna be in range and you are really hurting your own firepower by having, say 10 frigates chase down 1 target. That's just a form of blobbing, IMHO. Perhaps something along the lines of, calling primary, secondary, and tertiary would've been more effective and giving your pilots more choices to target and thus resulting in better efficiency. Though, I do give him props for great piloting and telling his guys to fly under and picking off the outliers.
Ashina Sito Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.11.01 05:06:00 - [13] Originally by: gpfwestie Gunny's very good, even a plonker like me could follow the instructions. I would have done 2 things differently 1) Primary Guardian when it showed up 2) Primary Abbadons over Megas, as the DPS is comparable but Scorch fitted Abbadons have range to pop your ECM (T1 ECM anyway) Could someone who knows tell my if these calls would be good / bad / indifferent ? 1) He assigned the ECM boats to the Guardians. It looked like he had 4 ECM boats. I would think with Multispecs those four ECM ships could have jammed the 2 Guardians. If the Guardians were on gate then you would be applying DPS to a target that would simply jump out when they were in trouble. If they were off gate they could be too far to be able to get enough DPS on them to take them down efficiently. It is a situational call. His choice seemed to work out. 2) The Abbadon's have a bigger tank then the Mega's. So your taking out more DPS by removing the Mega's faster. That said I would have gone after the BC's first. Even less tank and near the same DPS as a BS. On the other hand his fleet had sufficient DPS to clear the BS's fast so again, it was a good call. Now the Jaguar pilot was being less then useful. No need for him to point the primary with all the other ships in the fleet his DPS is inconsequential. He should have gone after that Stealth Bomber and taken it down. A red flashy in a Stealth bomber... love it . The last training fleet I was out on had a fantastic fight, us in a mixed frig -> BC gang jumped into a BS heavy, Command ship backed gang with 4 Guardians 50km off the gate. They got 10 of our ships (T1 cruisers and BC's) and we got 3 of the Guardians as well as an Astarte (sizable ISK win, they lost faction fit T2 and we lost T1 ships with Meta 0-3 fittings). Unfortunately the person that got a video of the fight did not have audio functioning. Would be a really good one if it had the audio. It is a lot looser then what Gunny had. We have a lot more chatter; individual pilots calling points, Ewar calling their targets (neuts, tracks and who has what jammed). More interesting to listen to but you do have talk over at times. I prefer an FC/XO set up where the FC runs the show but the XO picks up the elements that the FC misses. Having an XO that knows when to call targets the FC missed is a good thing. A good example would be in that Gunny vid where an XO could have ordered the tackle to take out the Stealth Bomber.
Annie Anomie Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.11.01 06:33:00 - [14] Quote: What are ideal ships to FC in? I was surprised to see him FC in a jaguar. The thing is, if you fight the same opponent more a couple of times they will work out who your FCs are. We all know Gunny for example. It's not uncommon for FCs and target callers to get primaried early. Therefore something with a decent buffer that takes RR well is a good call if it's going to be a shin-kicking-contest kinda fight.
Igloo Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.01 13:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Miko Nguyen Not to be too critical since I have little FC experience myself but is it really efficient for the FC to call primary on only 1 frigate at a time and have all 10 other frigates target the primary? I wasn't involved in that fight personally, but I've been in several others in that format. It was a roughly 30 on 30 arranged tech 1 frig brawl. Gallente were organized into smaller squads (you only hear the FCing for squad "superfunky") with similar fits so that they all WOULD be in range of the primary. Frigs die far too quickly to call primary for 30 people, but 5/6 people work quite well together. I don't think I'm giving anything away here since it's obvious there are far more purple icons than in Buck's squad.
gpfwestie Gallente Westie Engineering	Posted - 2010.11.01 19:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Ashina Sito 1) He assigned the ECM boats to the Guardians. It looked like he had 4 ECM boats. I would think with Multispecs those four ECM ships could have jammed the 2 Guardians. If the Guardians were on gate then you would be applying DPS to a target that would simply jump out when they were in trouble. If they were off gate they could be too far to be able to get enough DPS on them to take them down efficiently. It is a situational call. His choice seemed to work out. The Guardians jumped through with the rest of the fleet but stayed cloaked (so they were off the gate). Even so I think you are correct - get rid of the DPS.

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