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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.10.29 19:33:00 -
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Normally at FanFest, the CSM offers a Q&A roundtable. But since CCP foots the bill for our attendance, maybe there is more that the CSM could do to "earn its keep" and represent the community while there--either instead of or in addition to the standard Q&A session.
Perhaps funny skits? Presentations? Interviews? Impromptu surveys of players? If you have a good idea, share it! All reasonable suggestions will be shared in our internal forums where we are brainstorming Fanfest ideas right now.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion OWTBS Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:21:00 -
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First,
Lap dances in gorilla suits and sumo suits.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:04:00 -
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I think it is critical that CCP fly all the past CSM to the next fanfest. This would show the players of Eve that CCP is.... uhm committed to making the CSM relevant to .... uhm Eve being best ever and that since the first CSM CCP counted on the CSM to provide all the ideas the players love in Eve and the past CSM.... well stood against all the things in Eve that needed standing against ... and that having them there shows that even after their terms the past CSM continues to stand or sometimes after the pub crawl lean against those terrible stand againsting things!
Having the past CSM there also shows CCP clearly hears the voice of the players through the CSM about the importances of
uhm... well MICROTRANSACTIONS!!!! Oh the humanity!!
and how awesome/horrible the idea of Incarna is!!!
and well.... the terrible problem of too many/not enough supercaps!
and how low sec should be safer and more profitable for carebears while also being awesome for PvP and pirating at the same time!
and how 0.0 sov should be possible for small corps while still retaining everything the larger alliances want as well!
then of course it also proves...that.... uhm.. CCP hears you all about the CSM needing to be more than just a PR stunt to give some lucky players Iceland vacations while they are in the CSM... flying in the past CSM would prove that the CSM is not just a stunt to provide some player vacations in Iceland for a year.... its about a PR stunt to give lucky players Iceland vacations for LIFE!!!!! Just think how many more folks will run for the CSM next election!!!
Besides the past CSM would let players
- take a great CSM group photo! - speak with/shout at/hug/kick/throw a spoon at/share a beer with/throw a beer at their favorite past CSM! - learn first hand how low the bar was to be elected to the previous CSMs - have more CSM to throw into the volcano to sacrifice to the gods of lag! - more experienced guides to help you back to your hotel when the devs ditch you drunk and lost at 4:00 AM after the pub crawls! - have more folks that can tell you if you just ate 2 year old shark or dried rams testies! (OK, maybe folks that swear that's not what you are eating after offering you some!)
In summary having all the past CSM there shows CCP has a strong committment to committing!!
As to what the current CSM could do at fanfest, I vote for a roving beer cart that goes to all the meeting rooms during the day!
Issler
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.10.30 07:33:00 -
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Give people a mike and ask them what they like about EVE and what they think needs fixed and why it's broken.
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NereSky
Gallente Domination.
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Posted - 2010.10.30 10:48:00 -
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Serve drinks (maybe pay for them), clean tables, act as coat stands, cannot think of anything else that you lot can do without screwing it up imo
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.30 12:14:00 -
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Roundtable/QA kind of podcast for those of us who can't make it to fanfest. ------------------------------------------------
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RedSplat
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
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Posted - 2010.10.30 13:18:00 -
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Dinosaurs
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Johnathan Walker
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.30 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee
If you have a good idea, share it!
A dunk-tank. Seriously. Mad props if you get Hilmar to agree to be dunked Warmly, "The Bear" JW
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.10.31 10:37:00 -
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Wear "CSM V" shirts so we can gush/lush/throw rotten tomatoes.
You guys have been there a couple of times already, so presumably you'll be getting to know the local nightlife (not mentioning any names, but a particular pilot from PL should be really familiar with Icelanding boozing spots?). Announce a particular bar for each night (of the whole time that you folk are there) so we can decide whether to get drunk with CSM or CCP or both :)
Be visible, be accessible, help Reykjavik-noobs find their way around geek style - that's all I can think of :)
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 10:50:00 -
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I'd suggest some restraint. Considering how many/little of EVE's players/accounts in total voted, it might be a good idea to not pester people at Fanfest who don't want to be bothered with anything CSM?
It might have some comedic value if, say, CSM delegates ran around with big questionnaires in order to get player opinions on "important" topics (survey). It might as well aggravate people who didn't come to Iceland for the CSM. Might even lead to a facepunch or two under most unfortunate or most comedic circumstances...
Do whatever you want behind closed doors (aka seperate area) for those interested, but avoid making people feeling being swamped/stalked. Pretty sure you (well, most of you) do not want to build up some negative synergistic effects, do you?
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Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M Obsidian Mining Coalition
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Posted - 2010.11.06 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Johnathan Walker
Originally by: Mynxee
If you have a good idea, share it!
A dunk-tank. Seriously. Mad props if you get Hilmar to agree to be dunked
Quoted for awesome and I suggested it first via twitter.
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.11.06 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
Be visible, be accessible, help Reykjavik-noobs find their way around geek style - that's all I can think of :)
Cover my ticket and entry to fanfest and I will be glad to show you around all the bars. Barbara's is pretty good even if the DJ can't actually mix any beats together.
-T'amber
Originally by: TooFatToFish Quit already.
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steejans nix
Amarr 0beron Construct
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Posted - 2010.11.06 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dlardrageth I'd suggest some restraint. Considering how many/little of EVE's players/accounts in total voted, it might be a good idea to not pester people at Fanfest who don't want to be bothered with anything CSM?
Do whatever you want behind closed doors (aka seperate area) for those interested, but avoid making people feeling being swamped/stalked.
Good idea there, could be held in a phone box maybe ?
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.06 19:17:00 -
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You know what would be hilarious, if CSM could get a summary of all the stuff they agreed / disagreed with during the elections and be asked why half of the ideas were ignored despite being a 'priority' for many years and why some of the stuff people want to change are still promoted
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Athena Olympus
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Posted - 2010.11.07 11:11:00 -
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so 3 pieces of paper maybe required
1) a stamp with the ideas they have come up with written on itthat have been implemented
2) a piece of A4 paper with ideas they have come up with that havent been implemented
3) a low loader carrying a few pallets of A4 paper with ideas that the eve population have come up with , not even discussed at CSM, ignored or otherwise used as paper aeroplanes or beer mats at CSM meetings
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.07 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Olympus so 3 pieces of paper maybe required
1) a stamp with the ideas they have come up with written on itthat have been implemented
2) a piece of A4 paper with ideas they have come up with that havent been implemented
3) a low loader carrying a few pallets of A4 paper with ideas that the eve population have come up with , not even discussed at CSM, ignored or otherwise used as paper aeroplanes or beer mats at CSM meetings
Actually this would be great
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Crale Damar
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Posted - 2010.11.07 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Crale Damar on 07/11/2010 22:56:37 PRESENTATIONS
Topics: -- The scrum process applied to the CSM processes -- Walk through of community initiated proposals from a to z -- CSM5: Lessons Learned -- A season of CSM: The behind the scenes walk of a CSM member from campaigning through to handoff to next CSM... -- Why CSM? An account of 'why' running for CSM is worthwhile
INTERVIEWS -- facilitation of live roundtable discussions from fanfest on podcasts
SKITS - Skits involving CSM and CCP together. Maybe one of both groups making fun of each other (ex. CSM acting as CCP and vice versa). Could be a good laugh maybe? - Skits comprising of the different characters in gam (pirate, wormholer, trader, PvPer, fleet commander, etc)
SURVEY -- Collaborative survey construcuted by CCP and CSM together. Designed to get users' feedback on various issues in the world of Eve. Should be owned and marketed by CCP and results shared openly with the community. based on results, CSM follows up accordingly during next sessions with CCP to evaluate their abiility / willingness to implement some of the specs.
--Jade Lost in Eve podcast www.lostineve.net
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TeaDaze
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: TeaDaze on 08/11/2010 00:51:17
Originally by: Lady Parity
Originally by: Athena Olympus so 3 pieces of paper maybe required
1) a stamp with the ideas they have come up with written on itthat have been implemented
2) a piece of A4 paper with ideas they have come up with that havent been implemented
3) a low loader carrying a few pallets of A4 paper with ideas that the eve population have come up with , not even discussed at CSM, ignored or otherwise used as paper aeroplanes or beer mats at CSM meetings
Actually this would be great
1) Have you seen the list of CSM items in development for the next expansion? The stamp won't have enough space on it
2) There are over 150 issues raised by players and championed by CSM in the backlog, you won't get all of those on a single piece of A4 unless you use a teeny tiny font
3) Break down the pallet of "ignored" proposals into duplicates, trolls and ideas totally unsupported by the playerbase and we have a deal
I know many people will never be happy with the CSM for various reasons. But like it or not the CEO of CCP specifically asked us to fly over for an additional summit to discuss a number of things. It seems the people who matter (those players who contribute to the CSM process and those within CCP who make the decisions) feel there is value in what we do. Haters will hate no matter what
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Athena Olympus
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Posted - 2010.11.08 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: TeaDaze Edited by: TeaDaze on 08/11/2010 00:51:17
Originally by: Lady Parity
Originally by: Athena Olympus so 3 pieces of paper maybe required
1) a stamp with the ideas they have come up with written on itthat have been implemented
2) a piece of A4 paper with ideas they have come up with that havent been implemented
3) a low loader carrying a few pallets of A4 paper with ideas that the eve population have come up with , not even discussed at CSM, ignored or otherwise used as paper aeroplanes or beer mats at CSM meetings
Actually this would be great
1) Have you seen the list of CSM items in development for the next expansion? The stamp won't have enough space on it
2) There are over 150 issues raised by players and championed by CSM in the backlog, you won't get all of those on a single piece of A4 unless you use a teeny tiny font
3) Break down the pallet of "ignored" proposals into duplicates, trolls and ideas totally unsupported by the playerbase and we have a deal
I know many people will never be happy with the CSM for various reasons. But like it or not the CEO of CCP specifically asked us to fly over for an additional summit to discuss a number of things. It seems the people who matter (those players who contribute to the CSM process and those within CCP who make the decisions) feel there is value in what we do. Haters will hate no matter what
point 1 - as you said, they are not implemented but in development point 2 - again 150 items not implemented which maybe can go on a A4 piece of paper point 3 - ok i could have added duplicates, trolls and unsupported ideas to not discussed , ignored and used as paper aeroplanes/beer mats
So obviously anyone outside of the CSM process doesnt matter i would think everyone would matter the fanbois to the haters as they 'ALL' contribute in one way or the other, and why bracket this response as a hater, i dont hate the CSM i just think money could be better spent without sending you guys out there for by all reports & accounts is argueing around a desk and drink huge amounts of alcohol
But as a poster advised earlier a job as a coat stand at fanfest or a coat room attendant (i remember having a helluva time finding my coats in the years i attended)
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TeaDaze
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Posted - 2010.11.08 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Olympus point 1 - as you said, they are not implemented but in development
Due for release well before fanfest
Originally by: Athena Olympus point 2 - again 150 items not implemented which maybe can go on a A4 piece of paper
Unlikely, even if you use duplex. The point is that players raised these proposals through the Assembly Hall, CSM discussed them and added them to the list. It is counter productive to add duplicates and badly thought out proposals to simply clutter the list, hence point 3.
Originally by: Athena Olympus point 3 - ok i could have added duplicates, trolls and unsupported ideas to not discussed , ignored and used as paper aeroplanes/beer mats
Sadly (and I blame the forum software) there isn't a very good way to search the existing proposals which means we get a huge amount of duplicated proposals.
Originally by: Athena Olympus So obviously anyone outside of the CSM process doesnt matter i would think everyone would matter the fanbois to the haters as they 'ALL' contribute in one way or the other, and why bracket this response as a hater, i dont hate the CSM i just think money could be better spent without sending you guys out there for by all reports & accounts is argueing around a desk and drink huge amounts of alcohol
I wouldn't say they don't matter at all, however their views have less priority than the people who participate (even if that participation is negative comments on proposals. Those views are frequently useful ). It stands to reason that the players who engage with the process get the most value out of it.
I fully understand that people believe the CSM process is a waste of time or money, partly because they see no tangible results. Many people don't realise the amount of time it takes to get a feature implemented from idea to release (longer than a single CSM session once CCP decide to schedule a feature) which adds to the "what have you done" questions of the CSM. In addition the role of the CSM has changed since CSM4 to reduce the emphasis on purely raising proposals to instead include more discussion on upcoming features and ideas. Of course there is also a PR aspect to the whole thing which we can't ignore.
The best answer I can add for the worth of the CSM that is that the senior Eve producers have been in discussion with us for weeks about a few important issues and that the CEO valued our input so much he requested an additional summit. If he didn't feel it was worth the money to fly CSM5 over for a 3rd summit this year then he wouldn't have asked would he? During that summit he personally spent over 3 hours discussing a great number of things with us.
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Athena Olympus
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Posted - 2010.11.08 09:40:00 -
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Well, my thoughts and opinion remain the same, as soon (as you put it) until i see some tangible results (how many years has it been sofar?, rather than points ive read in the minutes produced which appear to be a 'then V us' rhetoric rather than specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and timebound agreements
The few items that have been added sofar tbh are negliable ie;
Fully Deployed:
* Summer: Forum timer reduced to 2 minutes.
* Summer: View the fittings in ships in your Hangar without boarding the ship ("View Contents").
* Summer: Align to Bookmarks.
major issues seem to be still discussed and back logged on a continuous basis so ill close now and still re-iterate i dont think the CSM in general is of no benefit however i do not believe whatsoever the gain outweighs the cost in a tangible sense especially with the state of gameplay re Sov issues and that clickfest of PI (what were they thinking lmao)
Added to that ill also be quite impressed when issues raised by the players are treated with respect rather than the ones where CSM has a personal/corp/alliance interest in - but again what can you expect from politicians in RL or game life
ill close now as i think ive derailed the thread enough and for that i apologise - i still would like a cloakroom attendant though at fanfest if i go
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 13:29:00 -
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For most of the CSM stuff I have been impressed, but my reasons for voting for CSM were based on their priorities which have unusually been avoided and I am merely concerned about the consistency of CSMs, I think it would be great if pre elected priorities were mentioned at fanfest and compared to what CSM have done or mentioned. It would definitely restore faith in CCP and players will see CSM for who they are, lets see who wanted a free Iceland trip and who wanted the game fixed and most of all who has stayed honest to their word
I for one would love to know why certain major issues have only been mentioned by a few CSM yet ignored by others, I havent focused on last years priorities as much but I am well aware how blob warfare has been a constant issue with little or no discussion. I understand Dominion was meant to fix most of the problems in 0.0 but clearly failed so I cant really mention about previous CSMs dedication and influence so I will just use this term as an example.
Plus since this is all political I am sure spending extra time proving to players how ALL (not just a few) CSM have been dedicated and true to their word.
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.11.09 00:27:00 -
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tl;dr: Mild rant
Just because there has been no "progress" doesn't mean that things like "blobs" and other "big issue" topics have not been addressed by CSM. Lack of visible progress is not due to willfully ignoring these things. Sometimes it simply makes the most sense to spend the limited time we can devote to this volunteer job on other issues.
Being on the CSM consumes a lot of time. Consider how much time a delegate might spend on average each month to:
-- Participate in eight fellow delegates' discussions on matters of interest to them/their constituents or general game/CCP issues -- Complete tasks the CSM related to dev planning meetings, summits, focus groups, and other activities that require preparation and have dependencies associated with them -- Complete tasks associated with communicating with players (such as writing CSM blogs, minutes, and forum posts) -- Discuss CSM process and admin stuff (boring but necessary) amongst ourselves and with CCP -- Discuss topics raised by CCP, which often are "time critical" and thus get priority -- Research proposals from Assembly Hall that delegates plan to raise for a vote in our bi-weekly meetings -- Respond to constant emails, IM's, forums posts, and forum PMs from players with ideas, suggestions, rants, questions, etc. -- Interact with your constituents to gather opinions, ask questions, and do research to inform the choices you make as a delegate.
...then consider how much time any of us have left after work, family, school, and life to devote to the CSM. It usually adds up to the fact that there are a lot more things wanting delegate time than there is time for delegates to spend on them.
Besides time limitations and overshadowing priorities, another reason that some campaign promises may not get addressed proactively is because the glimpse we get of what's in the plans for CCP's dev resources over the next few dev cycles may make it clear that CCP cannot address a given issue at this time--especially something as undefinable as "the blob problem" which would take a LOT of time and thought to address in any meaningful way--if it even ever could be. (Admittedly, our influence on the big picture plans for EVE is like ****ing into the wind so far. Maybe the groundwork laid so far will permit future CSMs more success in that endeavor.)
Want your delegate to focus more on campaign promises? Ask how you can support their efforts related to those promises. Offer to step up and do research, be a voice, lead discussion, write arguments, and draft proposals. That is more likely to motivate delegates to focus on your pet issues than griping in forums. I can hear some of you now. "But you get free trips to Iceland! Why should we do any work? We get nothing!" To that I say, this IS a community, right? What do communities do when they want to accomplish something? They work on their objectives together. Many hands make work light, as the old saying goes.
Also, the trips to Iceland aren't free when you factor in the value of an active delegate's time and the fact that in some cases (like mine) a week's pay is forfeited or (in the case of others) vacation time is used for CSM work instead of spending it with friends or family doing something FUN. Compared to camping, fishing, sightseeing, etc., Iceland trips are WORK and a lot of it (even if you do manage to squeeze in some partying or touristy stuff on extra days--for which you get to pay the hotel bill).
I suggest everyone who is dissatisfied with the CSM run for a seat in the next election. Should you get elected and participate actively and responsibly, I'm willing to bet you'll come out the other side with a completely different perspective on just exactly how difficult it is to fulfill every campaign promise. A balanced assessment of how much good was done for the game in any given CSM term might be a more useful metric.
Okay, rant over. Damn, that felt pretty good.
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Athena Olympus
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Posted - 2010.11.09 07:18:00 -
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Good grief, was that rant absolutely necessary
Easiest option is dont make promises you cant keep, and also you say if we dont like it we can run for the job, i say if you dont like it dont do it
Rather than rant why dont you lot keep making some update posts in a short bullet point summary format, that way we can actually read a small piece of info pertinent to the issues we are interested in rather than pages of minutes only a minority will actually read, My attention span to such things are minimal anyway, the major issues will always be asked about but always seem to be lost in pages of verbal spew ie faction warfare seems to have ground to a halt, sov is talked about but no action and PI got slipped in how was that possible without CSM interaction to either prevent it or at least appeal against it?
You either represent us or you will continue being a USP for CCP to aid in PR ect
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.11.09 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Mynxee on 09/11/2010 11:07:22
Originally by: Athena Olympus Good grief, was that rant absolutely necessary
Easiest option is dont make promises you cant keep, and also you say if we dont like it we can run for the job, i say if you dont like it dont do it
Rather than rant why dont you lot keep making some update posts in a short bullet point summary format, that way we can actually read a small piece of info pertinent to the issues we are interested in rather than pages of minutes only a minority will actually read, My attention span to such things are minimal anyway, the major issues will always be asked about but always seem to be lost in pages of verbal spew ie faction warfare seems to have ground to a halt, sov is talked about but no action and PI got slipped in how was that possible without CSM interaction to either prevent it or at least appeal against it?
You either represent us or you will continue being a USP for CCP to aid in PR ect
The point I was trying to make is, it is impossible to know when campaigning in good faith on some issues whether circumstances will make it possible to keep those promises. Certainly anyone who campaigned on promises like "I will fix x, y, and z" is skating on dangerous ice since it is improbable they will be able to accomplish that. "My interest areas are x, y, and z; I will support and push for discussion on topics related to those things." as used by myself and others is a much better approach.
As for "bullet point" updates, that's a reasonable suggestion. I'll start doing this mid-month for the remainder of the CSM5 term, here in Jita Park.
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Athena Olympus
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Posted - 2010.11.09 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee Edited by: Mynxee on 09/11/2010 11:07:22
Originally by: Athena Olympus Good grief, was that rant absolutely necessary
Easiest option is dont make promises you cant keep, and also you say if we dont like it we can run for the job, i say if you dont like it dont do it
Rather than rant why dont you lot keep making some update posts in a short bullet point summary format, that way we can actually read a small piece of info pertinent to the issues we are interested in rather than pages of minutes only a minority will actually read, My attention span to such things are minimal anyway, the major issues will always be asked about but always seem to be lost in pages of verbal spew ie faction warfare seems to have ground to a halt, sov is talked about but no action and PI got slipped in how was that possible without CSM interaction to either prevent it or at least appeal against it?
You either represent us or you will continue being a USP for CCP to aid in PR ect
The point I was trying to make is, it is impossible to know when campaigning in good faith on some issues whether circumstances will make it possible to keep those promises. Certainly anyone who campaigned on promises like "I will fix x, y, and z" is skating on dangerous ice since it is improbable they will be able to accomplish that. "My interest areas are x, y, and z; I will support and push for discussion on topics related to those things." as used by myself and others is a much better approach.
As for "bullet point" updates, that's a reasonable suggestion. I'll start doing this mid-month for the remainder of the CSM5 term, here in Jita Park.
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Extreme
Eye of God Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.10 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Extreme on 10/11/2010 05:52:41 I believe CSM is more than CSM-5 only.
Many hours of hard work has been done also by CSM-2, 3 & 4.
However,CSM-4 had no role at fanfest as fanfest 2010 was moved to 2011.
I will attend at fanfest anyways with or without CSM badge. CSM is a great team of various dedicated people and i'm glad i was able to be a part of it.
I would love to meet the whole team!
Edit:
btw, will meet yall in december when csm-5 will have their 3rd summit.
mAybe play some live poker :)
o/
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Extreme
Eye of God Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.10 08:31:00 -
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If CSM PokerTeam loses then Mazz and Mynxee will have to strip
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:11:00 -
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If there is a poker game, I will crush all comers.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Extreme
Eye of God Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.11 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Extreme on 11/11/2010 00:37:13
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow If there is a poker game, I will crush all comers.
I was 4th last time.
I was brainstorming myself on how the Eve poker tourmnament can be improved.
* At fanfest 2009 it was unlimited rebuys the first hour, all real money was for charity.
** I would suggest some inprovements.
In Iceland it's illegal to play poker / pokertournament with real money and prizes, charity poker is allowed.
The winners got a medal
I would suggest the following for Eve Fanfest 2011 pokertournament.
Administration fee: 2000 Iceland Kroner, this money will go to charity.
Buy in: 5 billion ISK (Eve money), 1 rebuy of 5 billion isk and an add-on of 5 billion isk. (5 is just a number)
I guess you won't break Icelandic laws when you can win in-game money :)
Now there are 2 options:
The isks will be used for PLEX/ charity, and if so, CCP will hand out prices like unique ships, items, blueprint etc.
Or just have the isks as the poker prizepool so the winner can take a 250 billion isk prize home.
The end word will be for CCP, they need to like and adapt the idea/concept.
final words: i really enjoyed fanfest poker and it was good for charity, ALOT of money was collected. It was however kind of pointles poker as there was no prize at start, last minute 3 medals were called in.
Pete McKay was an awesome pitboss!
Edit: CCP could make the poker even more fun to put bounties on CSM and CCP pokerplayers in case a player was able to knock the CSM or CCP player out of the tournament. Bounties can be ships and ship items. . .
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