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Takimoshi
Caldari THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.31 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: Takimoshi
Misrepresented Quote
Forum trolls are so cute when they're trying to be funny
*pats you on the head*
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Manfred Sideous
Amarr H A V O C Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2010.10.31 20:47:00 -
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Dear CCP
Look at the monster you have created. Now that this has happened people will trend to 3000 people fights. Then people will feel " We don't have enough ". Remember the first BS getting popped and everyone was like whoa. Then the first BS vs BS fight and people were like whoa. This trend has went on in Eve for years now. The problem is your hardware is always steps behind.
Im not a big fan of placing artificial limits on social paradigms but I think were beyond critical mass. Your development team really needs to play the game and by playing the game I don't mean in empire. They need to be out in the trenches of 0.0. To have any valuable foresight they need first hand knowledge. Because from a spectators POV. this seems to be terribly lacking.
I think there needs to be some safeguards put in place. A previous poster in this thread did make a colorful point. There are no incentives or better yet no penalties for groups to stay lean or to only use what they need. A point id like to make is that CCP tout's Eve as being very dynamic that the player versus player content is the most dynamic of any platform offered. For the most part I agree to this statement. More and more though large scale content has lost the dynamic feel. The modus operandus today is he who has more wins.
You see this trend everywhere in game. For example Band of Brothers use to be a much smaller group of players who centered there PVP prowess around skill and tactics. Now IT (core BOB) has moved to numbers PVP. Look at Pandemic Legion who were just a few years ago a small group of very dedicated pilots. Now to stay competitive have taken on alot of people. Id also like to take you back to my old corporation 0utbreak. Voted best corporation in Eve in 2007 and 2008. They have now faded to obscurity.
I think a big step can be made by placing reasonable limits within the game. Alliance size , corporation size , Sov should exponentially more expensive. Space further from low-sec high-sec should be more valuable and yield more resources to offset the cost of needing more space to maintain logistic chains. A limit on standings 0.0 is supposed to be a harsh rough enviroment. Not a place where you can simply circle as many wagons as you can and then play civilization. Jumpbridges and cyno jammers need reworking. As of now as long as your able to pay the fee you can have them. As many of them as you would like and oh all your friends can use them with no added cost.
My overall point is the game is moving beyond critical mass. Eve players don't agree on many things at all. We can't even agree on who is good or bad in the game. Yet almost every player will agree that the hardware is many steps behind coping with the demands of the players. This is a rat race that will never be won. Admitting that it seems prudent to modify the factor in which you can have control over.
♥ Manny
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Jimmy Duce
Gallente Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.10.31 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Sideous Dear CCP
Look at the monster you have created. Now that this has happened people will trend to 3000 people fights. Then people will feel " We don't have enough ". Remember the first BS getting popped and everyone was like whoa. Then the first BS vs BS fight and people were like whoa. This trend has went on in Eve for years now. The problem is your SOFTWARE is always steps behind.
♥ Manny
FTFY
It's not hardware it's software. Hardware will yield linear speedups and software superlinear. Compare that to a man versus superman. That said, CCP is trying to solve problems that nobody else has tried. There are entire realms of WOW with 3000 people, and we just had that in a single system. There is no answers at the back of the book for them to "fix lag". They are trying, keep complaining cause I know I do, but they are trying.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:55:00 -
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Like I have been saying for the past five years. Until CCP discourages people from bringing masses to the fight, it will never end. When they make 3K playable, people will bring 5K to the fight. The only answer I see is to penalize for NAPing. Introduce a stacking penalty for blue standings. If the odds are 5-1 in a system with more than 500, reduce damage of the 500 and increase damage to the 100 where the 100 can demolish the 500. This will promote more even fights and discourage from having all these blue standings with 3/4 of EVE.
But CCP has no balls or any original thought about whatÆs wrong with this game. More carebear **** coming up. As long as the carbears are happy and able to control space without fighting for it by just blobbing, theyÆll keep paying the subscription. This game has not been a PVP game for years now. If you want PVP, find another game.
The truth will set you free
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Like I have been saying for the past five years. Until CCP discourages people from bringing masses to the fight, it will never end. When they make 3K playable, people will bring 5K to the fight. The only answer I see is to penalize for NAPing. Introduce a stacking penalty for blue standings. If the odds are 5-1 in a system with more than 500, reduce damage of the 500 and increase damage to the 100 where the 100 can demolish the 500. This will promote more even fights and discourage from having all these blue standings with 3/4 of EVE.
But CCP has no balls or any original thought about whatÆs wrong with this game. More carebear **** coming up. As long as the carbears are happy and able to control space without fighting for it by just blobbing, theyÆll keep paying the subscription. This game has not been a PVP game for years now. If you want PVP, find another game.
You are in a 6000 man alliance that's only tactic is to blob, maybe you forgot when you posted that. ---
I does like have spaceship vids n stuff
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 31/10/2010 23:36:16
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Metal Dude Like I have been saying for the past five years. Until CCP discourages people from bringing masses to the fight, it will never end. When they make 3K playable, people will bring 5K to the fight. The only answer I see is to penalize for NAPing. Introduce a stacking penalty for blue standings. If the odds are 5-1 in a system with more than 500, reduce damage of the 500 and increase damage to the 100 where the 100 can demolish the 500. This will promote more even fights and discourage from having all these blue standings with 3/4 of EVE.
But CCP has no balls or any original thought about whatÆs wrong with this game. More carebear **** coming up. As long as the carbears are happy and able to control space without fighting for it by just blobbing, theyÆll keep paying the subscription. This game has not been a PVP game for years now. If you want PVP, find another game.
You are in a 6000 man alliance that's only tactic is to blob, maybe you forgot when you posted that.
And my 6K can not match up to the 50K you are NAPed with. I would be perfectly fine with not being in any alliances at all tbh. The game mechanics dictate what people will do, whether they like it or not.
The truth will set you free
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Jones Bones
Minmatar Heretic Army
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:48:00 -
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But CCP keeps telling me nullsec PVP is the aspired "end game".
Hath they no HONOR?
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Takimoshi
Caldari THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.01 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 31/10/2010 23:36:16
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Metal Dude Like I have been saying for the past five years. Until CCP discourages people from bringing masses to the fight, it will never end. When they make 3K playable, people will bring 5K to the fight. The only answer I see is to penalize for NAPing. Introduce a stacking penalty for blue standings. If the odds are 5-1 in a system with more than 500, reduce damage of the 500 and increase damage to the 100 where the 100 can demolish the 500. This will promote more even fights and discourage from having all these blue standings with 3/4 of EVE.
But CCP has no balls or any original thought about whatÆs wrong with this game. More carebear **** coming up. As long as the carbears are happy and able to control space without fighting for it by just blobbing, theyÆll keep paying the subscription. This game has not been a PVP game for years now. If you want PVP, find another game.
You are in a 6000 man alliance that's only tactic is to blob, maybe you forgot when you posted that.
And my 6K can not match up to the 50K you are NAPed with. I would be perfectly fine with not being in any alliances at all tbh. The game mechanics dictate what people will do, whether they like it or not.
In my opinion the thing about EVE that has always interested me the most was how closely it mirrored real life mechanics.
Think about it - as a member of even a 6000-pilot alliance can attest the logistics of maintaining that space and moving assets and pilots around can be staggering. I've run my own corp before (briefly) - it's a lot of work, like having a second job, and that was a small empire corp. I can't imagine all the behind the scenes work that takes place to run the coalition I am a part of. There are probably several hundred people who dedicate a lot of time and effort to make the NC run as smoothly as it does. The ships all the pilots needed to take LXQ didn't just appear out of thin air, they required coordination. Some people really enjoy being that essential cog in the greater machine, why punish them because you're not as successful? That's like telling the people who make billions every day from manipulating the market (one of the hallmarks of EVE's vaunted player-driven environment) that they can't play that way. Not only is that a bad way to run a business predicated on the players, it doesn't really work that way in real life either.
Just because something is perceived as being better, does not always mean it is the better way. The number of people who are bothered by these things to me seem relatively small. I imagine CCP sees it much the same way. Adapt and overcome, suck it up or leave the game. You may complain all you want, but the fact of the matter is, dem da rules. Unless you get hired by CCP and can then start making the rules, I suggest you find a way to adjust. Last time I checked the NC was not the only group that controlled vast swaths of 0.0 space (White Noise, The Initiative, the xXDeathXx/RA bloc, IT). The fact that you guys (speaking to Metal Dude of IT) have been able to hold the area you have for as long as you have speaks volumes. You don't seem to be suffering the ill effects of these so-called poor game mechanics/hardware problems.
Don't get me wrong, it would be fantastic if you could have any number of pilots in a system at the same time all shooting and able to do so without lag, but face it - that's not going to happen right away. I like small gang pvp myself as well, I've FCed before and I don't like anything over 20 people. That being said, I was in LXQ, I've been in mass scale combat and it's kind of cool to look back on some pretty epic and pivotal fights and say "I was there, I was a part of that."
But in the end, no matter how hard CCP tries, it's impossible to make everyone happy. Huh, kinda like the way things work in the real world.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 01/11/2010 02:56:33
Originally by: Takimoshi ...
IÆm sorry dude, but you cannot compare real life to a PVP game. In real life the objective is to have peace. In PVP game the objective is to shoot things and promote conflict. If you want peace in a game, than this game is really Sims in space and not a PVP game. But thatÆs where this game is heading.
The developers continue to add carebear content to this game and ignore the PVP. Most PVPer have left the game or are not logging in. The 0.0 is one huge NAP fast where carebears control space by overwhelming the aggressors to the point of making any real objectives unattainable and the game unplayable. Small gang roaming and pirating is gone, factional warfare is a joke, PVP skills are unimportant and nonexistent. I can go on and on and the developers have no clue as to what to do. They ignore players input, they obviously donÆt play the game as combat pilots or they would see what the rest of us see.
Sorry, this game if horrible for a PVPers and it has been for years. It has changed to a careber land that does not really require 0.0 anymore. Just take a look how much activity there really is in 0.0 aside for the moon mining and complexes. 95% of systems are unpopulated. So yea, CCP is just happy to collect the subscription fees from carebear and keeps developing the game for them. ItÆs a horrible PVP game and it should not be advertised as one, since most veteran PVPers have left the game and there are no skills required to play to hold on to space. All you need is just blobs.
The truth will set you free
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Rikeka
Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Iberians.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 03:16:00 -
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Remove fricking standings from the game, and increase the costs of owning sov in 0.0 (like it was planned 12 months ago, but later dropped when people complained). --------------------------
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Takimoshi
Caldari THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.01 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 01/11/2010 02:59:02
Originally by: Takimoshi ...
1. IÆm sorry dude, but you cannot compare real life to a PVP game. In real life the objective is to have peace.
2. Second and third paragraphs..
1. Obviously you've never read Thomas Hobbes' "Leviathan." While peace may be preferred, history and the cold reality speak differently. Competition, winning and losing don't necessarily have to come down to bloodshed, but they do, and frequently. There are many ways to destroy a person both literally and figuratively. And in a world dominated by competition (because not everyone can have the 6-figure corner office job with a sports car and million dollar home) there are winners and losers. So it is with this game. I stand by my comparison.
2. Umm I don't know if you noticed, but umm, -A- got wiped off the Sov map, the NC is attacking on two fronts, and I see plenty of roaming gangs in my intel channels, so I don't know where you're getting the notion that "PvP" is dead. As for low-sec, nobody is in low-sec unless they're in a FW blob because it's not profitable to be there. Unless you mean OK Corral-style PvP where my one ship squares off against yours and whomever has the better ship/skills wins. Ok great, now you've just given no real incentive for anyone to want to PvP until they either have 1) superior numbers or 2) superior skills and ships (which take a long time and a lot of money to attain). As far as carebearing, I'm not sure if you've checked recently about how expensive it is to PvP, but all those good ships which require good skills to pilot, also cost money. So unless you plan on making everyone buy isk, they have to make it somehow. In addition, the more PvP you engage in, the more it costs, see where I'm going with this?? Also last I checked you still have to train some combat skills otherwise you're stuck in a rookie fitted rookie ship. Good luck PvPing in that.
The fact is you're bitter about the loss of the "good 'ole days" of PvP where everyone flew nano HACs and Recons and, well most of 0.0 systems were still uninhabited because nobody had the resources to inhabit them. People still need 0.0 because that's where all the high-end stuff is and honestly it's a lot easier to make isk out there than in lvl 4 missions or empire mining (I've done both), but the risk of getting ganked is much higher in 0.0, so it is a trade-off whether you believe it or not. I've never been suicide ganked in a lvl 4 mission or mining, but I've lost ships doing anomalies and belt ratting.
But if you really want to PvP, you just hop into that really awesome ship and come meet me. Oh by the way, since I don't like to lose, I'm going to bring some friends, you ok with that? Thought so. You're upset with the disruption of the status-quo from 3-4 years ago. That's cool, but times change man. Ask the dinosaurs about it, now those guys have a right to gripe about that MMO called existence....
(PS. I'm cool with this discussion, but I'm pretty sure you're just trolling because not only does your logic make no sense given your current alliance, but it also contradicts itself [see carbearing vs. PvP]. So pretty much no matter what I say, you're going to be contrary for the sake of it. Besides, you can never truly change a person's mind, you can only state the facts of the situation and they must make that decision on their own. Good luck with yours, maybe some day we'll meet on the battlefield if you continue to play. But if you're too upset with the state of affairs and decide to quit, good luck with whatever you choose to do with your newly freed time.)
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Jatata
Amarr Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.01 06:55:00 -
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Its nice that CCP fixed the lag, now everything is working smoothly.
ohwait
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David Goodwill
Caldari DarkStar 1 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.01 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Achem
Originally by: r3voo
And minigun please leave EVE OK ?
This > Minigin's dad makes him cry
What is this I don't even
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Minigin
Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.11.01 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: David Goodwill
Originally by: Achem
Originally by: r3voo
And minigun please leave EVE OK ?
This > Minigin's dad makes him cry
What is this I don't even
you know people have a problem with you when they think a big payoff is a person talking to his father in raised voices in a language they cant understand.
if thats **** for you, i can prolly get you more recordings of this. we have an almost weekly shouting match about how much time i spend on the computer.
you know how it is having concerned parents... although... i guess you might not. . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER!
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Atropos Kahn
Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 15:23:00 -
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Moar walls of text plz. I want to feel the lag of this thread.
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Agent Kenshin
Caldari Black Prophecy Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2010.11.01 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude ......since most veteran PVPers have left the game and there are no skills required to fight for space. All you need is just blobs.
Sad to say this is the truth. I've noticed it after coming back after long breaks where most of my old MC friends either don't play anymore or don't log in. Even the revival of such an alliance or alliances isn't possible anymore. Small groups of players can not hope to compete with the larger blobs of today. (That and the super capital blobs but that's something else entirely.) ----- I wish I still had my old Rizzy sig. :(
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Dan Brimstone
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude ......since most veteran PVPers have left the game and there are no skills required to fight for space. All you need is just blobs.
Did you ever think that the "Veteran" PVPers of old may be leaving the game because they've grown up and moved onto other things? This game has been around along time, and I can say that in my time playing it I've never seen someone actually quit playing because of game mechanics, it has always been because of real life. Sometimes they come back, but most of the time they just stay away and continue their lives. The problem is that those "Veteran" PVPers that are still here just don't get that and blame it on game mechanics. The truth of the matter is that the game mechanics obviously don't bother you that much as you still play the game, otherwise you would have quit.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:04:00 -
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I donÆt play the game that I used to love because of the game. I play because of the few friends I have in the game that have not quit yet. When they do, so will I. And yes, I see vets leaving the game because the game is not fun anymore. They go to other games and continue to play a real PVP games. Sure, some leave to RL, but itÆs much easier to leave when the game is not fun and what it used to be.
Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see. IÆm sorry. If you canÆt see the FACTS that the PVP in this game is long dead by examining the actions of the people that were the elite PVPers in this game, than I canÆt make you understand. You are the one that refuses to see the facts and soon you will have the game you want. A one big happy BFF carebear land. You wonÆt have to worry about lag than.
The truth will set you free
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Ichera
Caldari Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude I donÆt play the game that I used to love because of the game. I play because of the few friends I have in the game that have not quit yet. When they do, so will I. And yes, I see vets leaving the game because the game is not fun anymore. They go to other games and continue to play a real PVP games. Sure, some leave to RL, but itÆs much easier to leave when the game is not fun and what it used to be.
Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see. IÆm sorry. If you canÆt see the FACTS that the PVP in this game is long dead by examining the actions of the people that were the elite PVPers in this game, than I canÆt make you understand. You are the one that refuses to see the facts and soon you will have the game you want. A one big happy BFF carebear land. You wonÆt have to worry about lag than.
U mad bro?
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 01/11/2010 18:32:21
Just a quick thought. I remember getting this great adrenalin rush when PVPing in the old days. My hands would get sweaty and sometimes even shaking with excitement before and during the battle. When was the last time you had a rush from being involved in a fight? Answer that and then we can talk about the state of PVP in EVE.
And yea, I'm always mad. Anger is good, anger is right, anger motivates and gets **** done.
The truth will set you free
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Captain Thunk
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude I donÆt play the game that I used to love because of the game. I play because of the few friends I have in the game that have not quit yet. When they do, so will I. And yes, I see vets leaving the game because the game is not fun anymore. They go to other games and continue to play a real PVP games. Sure, some leave to RL, but itÆs much easier to leave when the game is not fun and what it used to be.
Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see. IÆm sorry. If you canÆt see the FACTS that the PVP in this game is long dead by examining the actions of the people that were the elite PVPers in this game, than I canÆt make you understand. You are the one that refuses to see the facts and soon you will have the game you want. A one big happy BFF carebear land. You wonÆt have to worry about lag than.
As a longtime fan of your crazy style of posting, that truly made me laugh
I love the way you admit to using precisely the same blob tactics as others, yet you actually seem to believe that as your blob is slightly smaller than someone elses then this makes it alright and distances you from being part of the same problem.
Some people are indeed delusional.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:50:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Captain Thunk
As a longtime fan of your crazy style of posting, that truly made me laugh
I love the way you admit to using precisely the same blob tactics as others, yet you actually seem to believe that as your blob is slightly smaller than someone elses then this makes it alright and distances you from being part of the same problem.
Some people are indeed delusional.
Really? Can you find me in any of the blob kill/loss mails during the blob battles? I don't like my alliance using the blob tactics any more than I don't like you using them. The truth is that my alliance had to adopt to your tactics to compete. That does not mean that I like it. At least we have real resets when the time comes which is something that can't be said about you.
The truth will set you free
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Takimoshi
Caldari THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude I donÆt play the game that I used to love because of the game. I play because of the few friends I have in the game that have not quit yet. When they do, so will I. And yes, I see vets leaving the game because the game is not fun anymore. They go to other games and continue to play a real PVP games. Sure, some leave to RL, but itÆs much easier to leave when the game is not fun and what it used to be.
Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see. IÆm sorry. If you canÆt see the FACTS that the PVP in this game is long dead by examining the actions of the people that were the elite PVPers in this game, than I canÆt make you understand. You are the one that refuses to see the facts and soon you will have the game you want. A one big happy BFF carebear land. You wonÆt have to worry about lag than.
I still don't think you quite understand where I'm coming from so let me make it ever so plainly clear to you. Yes there has been unprecedented growth in the size and number of 0.0 alliance in the last couple of years but that doesn't mean players hopping in ships to kill each other (aka PvP) no longer happens. True the average size of fleets have increased, as have the occurrence of massive fleet warfare, but 30 or less ships for roams still happen. Judging by the fact your killboard stats say you have killed one drake in almost a year means you're obviously not trying very hard to engage in small gang PvP anyway. Whereas in the last 2 months several of the fleets I have been involved in were 30 or less. Those are the FACTS. You can complain about it all you want, but the game is what it is, nobody said you still have to play.
Btw I've always had the game I wanted. Back when my first 10-man corp got wardecced into closing, to when my first real corp did low-sec PvP, to when I was in SMASH, to when I did FW, to when I was in EXE, to when I created my first pirate-ish corp, to now as a part of the NC. I enjoy the social aspects of the game no matter what part of the game we're involved in. So I guess as long as there are still cool people playing, no matter what, I'll continue to play and make new friends and have fun. There are certainly parts of the game I'm not a huge fan of, but I'm not going to let that ruin the fun I have.
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Captain Thunk
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Captain Thunk
As a longtime fan of your crazy style of posting, that truly made me laugh
I love the way you admit to using precisely the same blob tactics as others, yet you actually seem to believe that as your blob is slightly smaller than someone elses then this makes it alright and distances you from being part of the same problem.
Some people are indeed delusional.
Really? Can you find me in any of the blob kill/loss mails during the blob battles? I don't like my alliance using the blob tactics any more than I don't like you using them. The truth is that my alliance had to adopt to your tactics to compete. That does not mean that I like it. At least we have real resets when the time comes which is something that can't be said about you.
Always someone elses fault isn't it?
Pets is a term coined by BoB to refer to their underlings, you were the first alliance to do this and as soon as people do the same to compete you cry like a big baby.
I've certainly not seen you adapt to the current mechanics and make the best of it. Instead you prefer to complain all day about how unfair it is.
Why don't you tell me again about how PL and NC destroyed over 100+ of our own caps in an attempt to trick you into believing a fake reset? that one always makes me laugh.
Originally by: Metal Dude Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk
Why don't you tell me again about how PL and NC destroyed over 100+ of our own caps in an attempt to trick you into believing a fake reset? that one always makes me laugh.
I dont think anyone has ever thought NC and PL to be neutral and by neutral I mean real neutral not the neutral with benefit thing you guys have had going for the last several years.
What makes me laugh is you actually thought or think people believe PL isnt part of the BFF bull****, thats almost like saying NC defended their space with skill, actually that is pretty funny.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 01/11/2010 19:58:58
Originally by: Takimoshi
I still don't think you quite understand where I'm coming from so let me make it ever so plainly clear to you. Yes there has been unprecedented growth in the size and number of 0.0 alliance in the last couple of years but that doesn't mean players hopping in ships to kill each other (aka PvP) no longer happens. True the average size of fleets have increased, as have the occurrence of massive fleet warfare, but 30 or less ships for roams still happen. Judging by the fact your killboard stats say you have killed one drake in almost a year means you're obviously not trying very hard to engage in small gang PvP anyway. Whereas in the last 2 months several of the fleets I have been involved in were 30 or less. Those are the FACTS. You can complain about it all you want, but the game is what it is, nobody said you still have to play.
Btw I've always had the game I wanted. Back when my first 10-man corp got wardecced into closing, to when my first real corp did low-sec PvP, to when I was in SMASH, to when I did FW, to when I was in EXE, to when I created my first pirate-ish corp, to now as a part of the NC. I enjoy the social aspects of the game no matter what part of the game we're involved in. So I guess as long as there are still cool people playing, no matter what, I'll continue to play and make new friends and have fun. There are certainly parts of the game I'm not a huge fan of, but I'm not going to let that ruin the fun I have.
Aha, so you donÆt like the aspects of the game, but play it because of the friends you made. Got it. And as for having one kill in a year, what does that tell you? Maybe itÆs not worth my time to join a gang, travel 100 jumps and kill 2 shuttles. Maybe I have better things to do and better games to play during that time. I have multiple characters that I use when there is something worth doing, but IÆm not going to waste my time for nothing. Maybe you donÆt know what you are talking about.
As for stats, since you seem to like them so much, why donÆt you look up the number of kill mails generated by API from few years ago to now and see that even though there are more players now playing EVE, the number of kill mails has dropped greatly. What does that tell you about PVP?
Now, the only good thing about EVE is that I still can get in to a good argument on EVE-O. I always enjoyed that part of the game the best tbh.
The truth will set you free
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk
Always someone elses fault isn't it?
Pets is a term coined by BoB to refer to their underlings, you were the first alliance to do this and as soon as people do the same to compete you cry like a big baby.
I've certainly not seen you adapt to the current mechanics and make the best of it. Instead you prefer to complain all day about how unfair it is.
Why don't you tell me again about how PL and NC destroyed over 100+ of our own caps in an attempt to trick you into believing a fake reset? that one always makes me laugh.
Originally by: Metal Dude Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see.
Nope. The term æöPetsö was invented by my good friend Stan in ATUK while in FIVE. It was a term for people that did not want to get killed by us and paid us for standings. You know, like PL and NC. We did not call our pets to do the fighting for us. PVP required skills at that time and pets did not have them, so they were not in demand. They just provided us income while we roamed and caused havoc against 4-1 odds, like the always present northern carebear coalitions that we destroy basically by ourselves. So get your **** right next time if you are going to call me out on coining phrases, junior.
The truth will set you free
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fpshacker
Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Always someone elses fault isn't it?
Pets is a term coined by BoB to refer to their underlings, you were the first alliance to do this and as soon as people do the same to compete you cry like a big baby.
I've certainly not seen you adapt to the current mechanics and make the best of it. Instead you prefer to complain all day about how unfair it is.
Why don't you tell me again about how PL and NC destroyed over 100+ of our own caps in an attempt to trick you into believing a fake reset? that one always makes me laugh.
Originally by: Metal Dude Some people are so delusional and see only what they want to see.
Nope. The term æöPetsö was invented by my good friend Stan in ATUK while in FIVE. It was a term for people that did not want to get killed by us and paid us for standings. You know, like PL and NC. We did not call our pets to do the fighting for us. PVP required skills at that time and pets did not have them, so they were not in demand. They just provided us income while we roamed and caused havoc against 4-1 odds, like the always present northern carebear coalitions that we destroy basically by ourselves. So get your **** right next time if you are going to call me out on coining phrases, junior.
Metal Dude may infact be a worst poster then me.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Captain Thunk
As a longtime fan of your crazy style of posting, that truly made me laugh
I love the way you admit to using precisely the same blob tactics as others, yet you actually seem to believe that as your blob is slightly smaller than someone elses then this makes it alright and distances you from being part of the same problem.
Some people are indeed delusional.
Really? Can you find me in any of the blob kill/loss mails during the blob battles? ....
Man you really think about, if we dont found a blob mail from you, your alliance dont blobbing ? :D LOL Bob were the first blob constructor in the game and now same.
The Bob,Kenzoku,IT did always "bring more pets politics" to battles. The other alliance ones just adopted this sh*ty tactic. We saw when IT tried generate lag with 50 large bubbles for battles advantage, we saw those messages on forum when IT told for everyone, just bring more man and we break the nods for victory, so just stfu...
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.02 02:04:00 -
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You really arenÆt the sharpest tool in the drawer, are you. Can you imagine that not everyone in an alliance agrees with blobbing tactics and wonÆt participate in them? From the looks of it, no you canÆt.
But I think everyone can agree that blobbing sucks and it has ruined this game for PVP. The question is how to fix it, not whose fault it is, since people will adapt to whatever game mechanic limits are and bring more. If itÆs 2K, then they will bring 3K. What does CCP need to do to discourage this tactic? ThatÆs the real question.
I presented a possible solution and all you people can do is argue about who invented it. Guess what. CCP promoted it and wonÆt fix it while all you do is whine about lag and bring more.
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