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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:46:00 -
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I'm sure the situation is not unique, but it is to me. I've only been in the game since July of 2009.
The character has 3.5 mil SP and most of them were training for Iteron V, Obelisk, Viator. He's never run missions or been in 0.0 before, so combat skills were not an issue.
Now I need to free up my security pilot to fly a Hulk, and I'd like this character to switch off between hauling and security. This is in 0.0, BTW.
The characters has Drones 3, so a drone carrier isn't going to help. he's training for an Anshar, so training time needs to be kept to a minimum. It will take him about 9 days to get in to any of the 4 Level 1 BSs. His gunnery skills are slightly better than his missile skill. Neither one above Small/Standard.
Based on the above, which BS would you suggest? Recommended damage type for the local rat is kinetic. Most of the BSs are in the 500 to 800k range but there is a nasty 1.44 mil model that shows up every now and then. I usually put one of the miners in a Raven when that happens.
Most of my experience above BC has been Caldari.
I don't use faction or T2 stuff. I'm a miner, in other words.
I don't want fits, just suggestions on ships with explanations.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Within reason, of course.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:53:00 -
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3.5m sp, a bs should be the last thing on your mind. Having been in the game for more than a year i'd hope you know that by now.
Aside from that, you haven't explained what you'd use it for (ratting, plexing, roaming, gang pvp, fleet pvp, ship spinning, etc), but since you seem to want an answer anyhow...
no.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.30 21:57:00 -
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What don't you understand about mining security? Just curious.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.30 22:07:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Hauler Darby
What don't you understand about mining security? Just curious.
What don't you understand about 3.5mil sp character in a battleship not being anything short of laughs on a lossmail?
Get your character into a cruiser or a bc at most. They can handle the rats and won't be so halariously harsh on your wallet when players show up.
Also, stealth bombers will be your primary concern in you're in a big nullbear system for mining. Frigates are the best counter there.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.10.30 22:10:00 -
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A BC might be better if your goal is to secure miners from rats.
Get a drake with passive shields, speed and dmg mods.
Its faster train, cheaper and with decent tank.
If you really want a BS for this, i'd try the raven first with your skills.
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Amaha Masane
Caldari
Avalon Advanced Research and Development
Eclectic Collective
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Posted - 2010.10.30 22:11:00 -
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If you're just fending off rats for your mining team, a Drake would probably suffice your needs. Good training speed, no need to train smaller weapon systems (unlike guns), and minimal skill time to get a Rat-worthy passive tank. Fending off other players with it like this tho will likely get you killed, but if you're just securing them from rats it should suffice.
If you insist on a BS, a raven (for missiles) is good. Or a mega (for guns) would probably work, but you'll have to invest more training time since large guns require you to train through the smaller guns first.
Resisted the urge to say domi, since your drone skill are admittedly lacking, but if you wanna provide some logistics for your miners on the cheap as a long term goal, would probably be a good bet too
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.10.30 23:09:00 -
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Use a passive drake fully tanked out.
1) Pick belt
2) Warp drake to belt
3) Get aggro. Dont kill the rats.....any of them
4) Warp miners in.
5) Profit!!!!
One does not need to kill belt rats to mine just not have aggro on the mining ships. A drake would be your best bet. It cheap, has a mean tank, is less skill intensive than a BS.
I know you dont want fits but for LOLs, why have him doing nothing:
[Ferox, New Setup 1]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Cap Recharger II
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
Cu Vapor Particle Bore Stream I
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
could do the same with a rokh but with a higher yield and better cargohold.Just replace the T2s with meta 4 btw. Might would have to adjust the tank but it should tank guristas belt rats you described.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.30 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hauler Darby on 30/10/2010 23:53:15
Ok, I didn't want to have to tell the rest of the story because most of it is irrelevant, but . . .
I'm not asking if it can be done, because I'm already doing the job with another 3.5 mil SP character, and she's happy and healthy, thank you very much. She has two strikes against her, though. First, she's a dedicated refiner with barely enough SPs for a Heavy Missile Scorpion. Second, she's on the same account as my second hulk pilot, who has no combat skills at all. So, if I switch the refiner for the Hulk pilot, I'll be ratting, not mining.
The reason is that my main security comes from my other Hulk pilot, who has 5 mil SPs and barely enough of them are combat skills for a Cruise Missile Raven. He's doing security full time now, and I need him back in a Hulk.
The only person left is the hauler.
As to Drakes, I love them to death, but I've tried them and they can't take the damage with the skills I have. Basically, if they draw aggro, they have to leave. The BSs can tank the damage for long enough to decide on flight or fight.
As I said, I'm not interested in fits. I know how to use EFT and, more importantly, what works for me.
The goal is to have both Hulk pilots flying Hulks again, and the hauler switching back and forth between his Iteron V and an unspecified BS. The refiner's Scorpion will be in the POS in case she's needed, but, naturally, she will be logged off until then.
Now, back to the original question. Which BS do you suggest and why?
Edit: read the above again, and two more comments.
1. Again, no faction or T2. The ships are expendable so I'm not going to waste money on them.
2. Again, he has a few Gunnery skills, but absolutely no missile skills.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:07:00 -
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You can't tank something... with a drake?
And here I was thinking you guys were extinct.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:19:00 -
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I know its not what you asked for, but you could always train up for some interceptor real quick.
Draw aggro, and just run in circles while your miner can do its thing. Should work with a fast t1 frigate as well with minimal time investment, probably even more effective than a badly trained BS, and doubles as a scout.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 31/10/2010 00:40:53
Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
You can't tank something... with a drake?
And here I was thinking you guys were extinct.
That made me spit tea all over my keyboard damn it!
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As to Drakes, I love them to death, but I've tried them and they can't take the damage with the skills I have. Basically, if they draw aggro, they have to leave. The BSs can tank the damage for long enough to decide on flight or fight.
If you cant take it in a drake your not going to tank it in a BS. A drake is about the most noob friendly T1 BC/ BS your going to get. If you get scram rats that BS is going down.
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As I said, I'm not interested in fits. I know how to use EFT and, more importantly, what works for me.
Apparently you dont if you cant get a tank on a drake. I was tanking 0.0 belts in a drake at 2 mil SP and i trained learning skills first.
I dont understand why you even want our help you know the answer to your questions obviously as you want to have enough time to get out. Pick the BS with the most low and mid slots fill full of kin resist( and thermal if your doing guristas) and plates and extenders. Its a bloody silly way of going about it but i really dont think you want a real solution to your problem which would be......
.... to let people who fly drakes all the time in and out of combat to help you fit one. And if it wont tank it get some proper skills. All those support skills for the drake( minus weapons) are useful on haulers as well.
[Drake, ImmaNoob]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
That WILL TANK 581 DPS with 0( ZERO) skills and is cap stable with extremely marginal cap skills which you should be training for a JF anyway. That will tank 5 Guristas Destroyers. If you have 5 BSes in your belts i want to come live in your space.
Your ****ing welcome!
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.31 00:53:00 -
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Not a single one of you has addressed the original question, which was, which BS do you suggest?
Who cares about Drakes? Who cares about what you think will and won't tank rats?
I'm mining right now. Drakes don't work. I would like some intelligent suggestions on a non faction, non T2 BS for my poor hauler, who would really like to help out.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.31 01:43:00 -
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Thank you all for your kind and well reasoned responses. You may rest assured that I will consider each before making my final decision.
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NewGit
Caldari
Rusty Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.31 04:09:00 -
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From what I gather, you are Caldari, will be mining in 0.0 space, using (3) low SP toons.
I would suggest using the Scorpion, armour tank it best as you can in the lows, with a shield booster and ECM in the mids.
It seems your plan is to just hold the rats long enough to get your hulks out of danger. Know that, if you are in the belt when the rats show up, they will target your hulks before they target the BS (normally). You could then use the ECM to break the locks (while warping the hulks to safety).
Also know that, if you are using your hauler to also tank rats, he is stuck there until your miners safe up, but when the "tanker" goes to switch to being the "hauler" and goes back to the belt, the rats will be waiting.
I would suggest one toon to be your (semi)permanent tanker/ratter, and your two hulk pilots cross train as haulers. When needed, one hulk pilot docks up, comes back with the hauler, when all the ore has been moved he comes back in the hulk.
That keeps the rats at bay, keeps one hulk mining continuously and gets your ore to station in a safer fashion. I would suggest that this would be far more efficient than warping your miners out every time rats show up (hoping they target your "expendable" BS first, which is unlikely), and then trying to come back for your ore in a hauler some time later.
If you go that route, I would then suggest you look at a Rokh, mainly because even with low BS skills you get resist bonuses (5%/level) and it uses guns. More expensive, but if you train the pilot up, it is less likely you'll lose it to belt rats (gankers/hot droppers is a whole other situation though).
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.31 04:18:00 -
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Yeah, armor tanking caldari ships is a great idea. Frees up all those mids for survey scanners!
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Halborn
Celtic Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.31 06:45:00 -
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i'm sorry but I have to agree with others. If you cant tank it in a drake tanking it in a raven is 100m+ just asking to be lost. I'm relatively new to caldari ships (rolled a new alt to dual box missions with my amarr main) and hes in his drake. Has around the same sp as you guy and hes tanking a good 400 dps (i have one hardener offlined and 2 Invun II atm as traning fit skills). I highly doubt you'll get enough rats in a single belt to overwhelm that.
I've read many forum posts of people "rushing" to the raven and ending up throwing alot of isk away because they dont have the skills to fly it properly. Drake is what 20mil fit so if you lose it no biggy raven to fit is 100m easy thats alot more mining to make that back. Do the math be smart. Drake takes very little time to be tank ready compared to what it takes to get the raven tank ready.
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CENTUREAN
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Posted - 2010.10.31 07:01:00 -
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Sounds like you need a belt tank....Extremely simple.
You need 0 gunnery/missile skills.
What you need is a belt tank. The tank warps to the belt first and grabs all rat aggro and keeps it until the belt/anom is empty. The rats never die, but they never re target after locking on the tank. Thus they never target the hulks.
All you need is a simple T1 tanked Dual rep domi/any BS. I'd suggest a dual repped Myrmadon for faster warp out of the belt for when reds pop in system.
3 CCC rigs
High slots : Cup holder, **** mag, Tv remote
Mid slots: 1 Bajillion cap rechargers
Low slots: Rat specific hardners/ dual reppers. If your cap is still not stable, pop a Capacitor power relay in the lows as well.
Ask me about my 2 million skillpoint character. She tanks 0.0 Anoms all day. She tanks Anoms in a t1 fit rifter.
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Motamiter
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Posted - 2010.10.31 07:15:00 -
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I would advise op to go for a Dominix.
Single repper T1 fitted cap stable dominix can safely tank all you need and kill all you want in this situation. Plus its definetly not skill intensive, nor do you need to train for missile/gunnery skills just drone skills. It can also fit its high slots with MinerIIs and field full miner drones while not killing rats to help you mine! Hell, it can still mine while its drones kills the rats :P
the only skills you need to reach are:
Gallent Frigate 4
Gallent Cruiser 4
Gallent BS 1
Drones 5
Scout Drone operation 1
Heavy Drone OP 1
Jury rigging 1
Energy Grid upgrades 1
Electronics 3
Hull upgrades 3
and here's an example fit:
[Dominix, Mission Support Ship Mk2]
Rat specific Hardner I
Rat Specific Hardner II
Rat Specific Hardner III
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Expanded Cargohold II
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Ogre I x5
Hobgoblin I x5
Mining drone I x5
Sure beats all the other options I see so far.
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TheKalila
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Posted - 2010.10.31 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hauler Darby
Heavy Missile Scorpion
lolwut?
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.31 08:41:00 -
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Thanks for the input Motamiter. That sounds doable.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.31 15:47:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Hauler Darby
Edited by: Hauler Darby on 31/10/2010 08:51:13
Thanks for the input Motamiter. That sounds doable. However, drones are contra-indicated because I can't seem to control them well enough to keep them from screwing up the chaining. For now at least they stay in the hanger. I'm not sure skill training will fix that.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.31 17:46:00 -
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Sorry, but no apologies for the WOT. Read it if you like. Otherwise, don't.
This certainly is a friendly place but I'm not sure about it's usefulness. I'm left wondering if I'd asked for advice on an Industrial for moving chicken manure it would have p****d off so many people if I'd rejected the Drake option. I used to really like that ship, but it scares me now. Apparently it rots your brain out after some unspecified amount of use. I considered fire-saleing every Caldari ship I have in order to avoid this, but my Heavy Missile Scorpions are just too good at what they do.
Yes, Heavy Missile Scorpions. Why do I fly them? Because the pilot needs another few days of training to move up to a better ship and better weapons. It doesn't appear that any of you have ever had that problem. I'd ask how you avoided it, but . . . . The other problem with that character is that she's my refiner, and currently working on Scrap Metal Processing on an account with two other active characters. (No, I'm not going to even consider cutting back on the number of characters I use.) She needs to spend as much training time on her primary function as possible. Upgrading her rat protection skills is not a priority.
Anyway, I kind of thought that, if I stated the problem parameters carefully, and gave some hints on the type of solution I was looking for, this would be easy. I think I will have to reserve that approach for places where people have better reading comprehension.
Seriously, it appears to me that only two, maybe three people even bothered to read the description of the situation. Also, the situation as stated is not some flight of fantasy. I'm mining there now, and haven't lost any ships yet, but that isn't the problem. The problem is still that I can only use one of my Hulk pilots because the other one has to keep the rats under control.
How I handle rats is not up for discussion. Suffice it to say that it works for me. If you do it a different way, fine, but I have no reason to change the way I do it. I wouldn't even consider asking any of you to try my way. Most of you don't seem to feel the same restraint.
Another item stated near the top is that these characters are miners, and will stay miners. They will never fly any T2 ships other than Hulks. Also they're not in the belts to play with the rats. They're there to mine. That's another reason why I'm not seriously considering Interceptors and mining BSs at this time.
As an aside, I have tried a mining Rokh and was quite satisfied with it except that, although they can outmine Retrievers at fairly low skill levels, they can't outmine Hulks at all.
Nearly finally, many of you have mentioned skills, but you don't seem to understand that those who don't have the same skills you do will have greater difficulty doing some of the things that are easy for you. Someone mentioned a 'no skills' Drake that can apparently tank rats very well. Well, as stated above, that isn't exactly what I'm trying to do.
But finally, the problem is resolved to my satisfaction. When it became obvious that I wasn't going to get any responses that would be useful to me, I dropped back to the tried and true 'dart board' method, and apparently the gods favor the Abbadon today. Training is in progress as we speak.
So, once again, thank you for your input, even though I would have appreciated it if you had kept a lot of it to yourselves.
As far as I'm concerned this is the official
END OF THREAD.
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TheKalila
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Posted - 2010.10.31 17:57:00 -
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If your already opinionated then why ask for opinions? Your wasting your time.
But I had a good laff, post moar!
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Diomidis
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.31 18:18:00 -
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Having a mining support ship - even focused on defense more than mining without realizing the benefits of leadership skills and mind-links is a waste...
Since any BC can practically fend off belt rats, and a Drake is already within your toon's skillset, choose a drake...probably the most user friendly, skill-friendly BC out there for most rats. Why not a HAC/BS/or whatever else? Cause those BCs have 8 highs and usually no more than 7 guns/launchers for a reason u fools...
Do it right, then...something along these lines -
Quote:
[Drake, Drake - HML - Mining Mindlink]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large Shield Extender II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
yes, it's not perfected, I've just thrown the modules together in a couple of minutes, but TRUST me, it will make a diff, since 98% of your time in the belts (in between rats spawing) you will be doing NOTHING...why not provide a boost to the fleet?
Yes, it takes some time to get to mining links etc, but it's SP well spend for a miner's alt - unlike going for a mining domi + it's support skills etc...eventually those skills will be used in Orcas or other more efficient mining support vessels. If you cannot see the benefits, too bad.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.10.31 21:39:00 -
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I promised I wouldn't BUT I HAVE TO KNOW. Did you post this in the thread you intended?
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CENTUREAN
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:32:00 -
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Hauler, don't you have faction tanks on ur hulks?
rat specific rigs
completely faction fit shield tanks / Faction hardners/shield booster/amplifer<<< Used to cost like around 70mill for the mods back in the day.
mining upgrades in lows ( I stuck 1 mining upgrade and 1 warp core stab)
If you have 2 hulks with faction tanks spliting the aggro....it should be a piece of cake.
Then no need for a tank. Just keep drones with you incase of scram.
You'll need good shield skills. The rats shouldn't bother your hulks. Unless they jam, then I'd suggest a dedicated belt tank or moving to a new area.
This way your hulks can stay hulks and no crosstraining needed.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:54:00 -
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Exellent thread OP, will read again.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:00:00 -
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I don't always derp, but when I do, I herp a derp.
8/10
Originally by: CCP Lemur
THIS IS GOD: ...
IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Diomidis
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hauler Darby
I promised I wouldn't BUT I HAVE TO KNOW. Did you post this in the thread you intended?
You admit that you will "fall back" to your abaddon as an forgiving, low SP rat defender for mining ops and you cannot see why my post is completely relevant to what you should be opting for instead?
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:56:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki
I don't always derp, but when I do, I herp a derp.
8/10
+1 internets
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Halborn
Celtic Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.01 04:26:00 -
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Firstly, Dont insult people who are trying to give you advice based on experience. Some of these players have been doing this a long time and know what they are doing.
Secondly, i read your post and the responses and replied based on MY OPINION which is what you asked for. I stated that although a battleship would work it would be better to go for a drake based on the reason on my post. this wasn't ignoring your post but simply trying to offer you a way to do it at lower cost and lower skills required. Remember whatever you buy you gotta make that back mining the idea of this was to solve your problem of tanking rats in the fastest most simplest and cheapest effort.
Finally, If you are not willing to listen to other people and already know what you want to do then why bother asking at all because you're just being rude now.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.11.01 04:55:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 01/11/2010 05:00:25
Originally by: Hauler Darby
BS
You ask us for advice, tell us nearly what opinion you want us to give you. ( looking for confirmation for what you want to do instead of saying "would this work")
Then you insult us, give us more info that would really help us understand the situation.
Then insult us again and talk down to us.
Then tell us your not doing this and that and you not fitting this or training that. That you dont have time.
Insult us some more and talk down to us.
And then whine about our attitude?
Are you serious?
You are giving us pepsi cans, styrofoam plates, rubberbands, and firecrackers and telling us you want us to build you a warship.
And AFAIK once a rat is firing it dont switch targets unless the current target becomes invalid. At least not the 0.0 rats i encounter. But even if that were the case, you use your tanking ship to lure the rats 75-100 KM from the belt and orbit it. Thus if they were to switch targets you have 3 days to warp the miners out.
I am really wanting to call troll here. A logical person would say :
* I cant mine if i cant keep rats off me
* i only have one alt that i can really use for this.
* The alt is not good enough to keep me safe.
= sacrificing my primary focus for a week or or two is really going to pay off in the long run.
This is eve you cant win it in a year so i would suggest you quit rushing to become the Rockefeller of Eve and take the time to set yourself up properly.
Or you can go about it in the idiotic fashion and use the ore you mine to keep replacing your guarding ships because you dont want to put a bit of effort into protecting your income source.
Most carebears dont make sense to me...and then some just totally blow my mind.*facepalm*
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.11.01 14:23:00 -
[33]
Sigh. I didn't ask anyone to specify 'a ship' for me. I asked which BATTLESHIP would be best. Even if every BS in the game is unsuitable, I suspect one is less unsuitable than the rest.
Now wouldn't it irritate you if I told you what ship you should use to do what you do, whatever that is?
So quit wasting your time already. The decision has been made.
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Innui
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Posted - 2010.11.01 14:49:00 -
[34]
Posting in luddite thread on the interweb
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Exordium8
Minmatar
The Deep Space Armada
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Posted - 2010.11.01 15:09:00 -
[35]
OP, you didn't give us enough info. What system are you in? Knowing the system you mine lets us know the true sec status and thus what rats your dealing with. Tell us the system (or at least constellation) and you'll get more help.
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Everything is air-droppable at least once.
There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.01 15:38:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Hauler Darby
Edited by: Hauler Darby on 01/11/2010 14:39:15
Sigh. I didn't ask anyone to specify 'a ship' for me. I asked which BATTLESHIP would be best. Even if every BS in the game is unsuitable, I suspect one is less unsuitable than the rest.
Now wouldn't it irritate you if I told you what ship you should use to do what you do, whatever that is?
I was expecting a two line response. Not a semi trailer load of manure.
So quit wasting your time already. The decision has been made.
Maybe you fail to understand what people are doing here?
When 99/100 people think something is stupid, it might just be. And in this case, people are trying to correct your idiocy by pointing out that somebody that hasn't broken 4mil SP will not be able to fly a battleship with any amount of effectiveness. And that if all you're doing is keeping rats off of miners, a battleship would actually be overkill.
You are not so superior to all of these veteran players that you can be the exception to a metaphysical impossibility.
~pork
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:12:00 -
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Let it go. It's done. It's over. Stop posting.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:33:00 -
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Toasting in epic bread 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.01 17:42:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Hauler Darby
Let it go. It's done. It's over. Stop posting.
So you're getting that Drake then?
Good choice!
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:22:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Hauler Darby
Let it go. It's done. It's over. Stop posting.
Good job!
I'm sure about half of the posters in this thread will be watching the killboards with great excitement.
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TheKalila
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Posted - 2010.11.01 19:06:00 -
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Sometimes, it takes that special kind of person to just make it all worthwhile.
*Runs off to locator agents.*
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:35:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Hauler Darby on 01/11/2010 20:37:53
Why didn't you just ask?
9F-7PZ
Rookie frigates. Your choice.
Nothing in the mid or low.
No Drones.
Nothing in the highs that isn't civilian.
I'll give you a week to scout the system, then you set the time.
Edit: That system isn't friendly to me either. :)
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.11.01 20:51:00 -
[43]
Damn it got quiet in a hurry.
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Hauler Darby
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Posted - 2010.11.01 21:00:00 -
[44]
Okay. Point made. Live long and prosper.
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Cpt Smasher
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Posted - 2010.11.01 21:02:00 -
[45]
ib4l
Also. Drake
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.01 21:05:00 -
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Locked at OP's request
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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