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Major Fritter
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Major Fritter on 31/10/2010 22:25:54
Obviously you need a moon mining chain. Assume that I have access to all of the needed moon goo. What is the best way to setup the production chain?
The best I came up with takes 4 caldari control towers.
Tower 1 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 2 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 3 : 2 Silos feeding 2 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Tower 4 : 2 Silos feeding 2 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Silos hold 20,000 m3 so that complex reactor towers first silo can hold 4 days of production. Will this setup work? Or even if it will work, is there a better way?
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Major Fritter
Obviously you need a moon mining chain.
Not really. A lot of T2 component producers simply buy all needed advanced materials.
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Assume that I have access to all of the needed moon goo. What is the best way to setup the production chain?
That's awfully close in all possible ways, from spare CPU for defence purposes to empty/refill time to... well, just about anything.
Ideally, you'd do something far more leisurely, like 2 large gallente towers with one complex reactor each, and two medium gallente towers, with one simple reactor each (ideally on moons with at least some of the needed moon minerals, importing the others that are harder to get a free moon with). You can replace those two mediums with one large. And you can daisy-chain extra silos until you only have to come by to the POS whenever the fuel runs out, also, a few corporate hangars (or other better storage alternatives) to store everything you need if you don't feel like moving it right then.
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Major Fritter
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:01:00 -
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Information I am getting from people in game says it wont work the way I am trying.
Tower 1 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 2 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 3 : 2 Silos feeding 1 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Tower 4 : 2 Silos feeding 1 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Tower 5 : 2 Silos feeding 1 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Tower 6 : 2 Silos feeding 1 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Seems to be the only way to do it. And yes those are all large Caldari towers. In their infinite wisdom CCP has it setup that a Caldari medium tower only has enough CPU for one complex reactor and one silo. If a caldari medium cant do 1 and 3 then none of them can.
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Caghji
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Major Fritter
Edited by: Major Fritter on 31/10/2010 22:25:54
Obviously you need a moon mining chain. Assume that I have access to all of the needed moon goo. What is the best way to setup the production chain?
The best I came up with takes 4 caldari control towers.
Tower 1 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 2 : 4 Silos feeding 2 simple reactors dumping into 2 silos
Tower 3 : 2 Silos feeding 2 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Tower 4 : 2 Silos feeding 2 complex reactors dumping into 1 silo
Silos hold 20,000 m3 so that complex reactor towers first silo can hold 4 days of production. Will this setup work? Or even if it will work, is there a better way?
Hmmm û what is often over looked is that you put in 100m3 of each mineral input needed in a simple reactor and you get an output of 200m3 per hour û in other words you double the amount of input to output ratio û so your simple reactor output silos fill pretty quick
When it comes to complex reactors, most take 2 inputs (silos)) but some take 3 û so you really have to be clear on what you are making
I will assume for the moment each complex reactor is taking 2 inputs (silos)
Your 4 simple reactors produce enough material for 8 inputs(silos) into complex reactors û 2 inputs (silos) per complex reactor means 4 complex reactors required (your silo numbers are wrong above for inputs into complex reactors)
Hope that makes sense û a lot of people starting out in POS get caught out on the fact that simple reactors produce 200m3 per hour of reactants, which is of course a good thing
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Major Fritter
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Posted - 2010.10.31 23:34:00 -
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Yes thats why i changed it in my second post. I cant find any way around using a large pos for each complex reactor. There simply isnt enough cpu to run 2 complex reactors and 6 silos on one tower.
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Tandin
The Knights Templar
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Posted - 2010.11.01 00:51:00 -
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For any complex reaction involving 2 inputs, you can actually do a full chain with only 2 large caldari towers. 1 simple reactor on each tower feeding a silo which then feeds a complex reactor. You then need to cross haul the excess from that mid point silo to the other tower (and vice versa) to fill the second silo on the complex reactor.
It's a lot of hauling but not any more than PI typically is.
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Beren Farlander
Far Lands Advanced Reactions
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:56:00 -
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Edited by: Beren Farlander on 01/11/2010 02:58:46
I'm trying to get out of the carbide business as the profit margin just isn't what it used to be. But if you want my 2 cents... I say 1 tower.
We tried to have the 2 large setup w/ each pumping out a complex and simple input Rxn, but found an alternative that reduced hauling. On a single tower, we put a complex and 2 simple reactors. (this assumes that you buy & import most of the raw mats)
We keep the complex and it's input/output silos online at all times along with one of the simple reactors with it's inputs. When that simple's output gets full, we shut that line down and online the other simple reactor and its inputs (silos or moon harvesters).
We just switch lines every week. This way, there's no cross tower hauling and no resetting reactor links... which gets annoying real fast.
That works best for us, but, since it pays squat now, I'm looking forward to trying something else.
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