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Camar
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Posted - 2005.01.07 11:40:00 -
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Certain sources within the matari republic brought a few interesting things to my attention earlier today.
A fleet of amarr navy ships had entered matari space with the goal of releasing vitoc into the atmosphere on a matari planet. Without hesitation I investigated it and found/destroyed 2 battleships, 25 cruisers, 10 interceptors and 6 haulers with vitoc in them.
What made this more interesting then normal was that logs were found from the amarr empire supporting this action!
Linkage to proof
(not all tags were taken from this battle.)
These logs will of course be handed over to Concord for further investigation that the amarr empire support and aid in poisoning matari air.
If I recall correctly a similiar action were made by a matari extremist group a while back. However, there was no proof that anyone outside this group were involved, despite what certain amarr loyalist claimed. Pie condemned that action, but being loyal to the empire they support the same actions being done upon others...
Monkey see monkey do eh....
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.01.07 13:57:00 -
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Amarr Navy ships do not enter so called "Minmatar space". Thus your claims are false. In regards to the claimed attack last month on the water supply carried out by terrorists (and told to us by terrorists) this is nothing but mindless unverifiable propoganda. Perhaps you have some drone camera captures of this event?
Yes PIE did condemn the incident earlier as it was admitted to have occured by a known terrorist element. We would not have even known about it if the terrorist Minmatar hadn't claimed it occured. As that crime was brought to our attention by a Minmatar himself there was indeed something to discuss and condemn. PIE wouldn't have had anything to respond to if one of YOUR race hadn't posted the event happend in the first place.
On this hand though as no Amarrian of repute has admitted participating or even knowing of this alledged attack I think it's safe to assume it never occured.
If an Amarrian of prominence had claimed to have done this alleged crime THEN you could be justified in condemning it. As it stands though all you've done is completely make up a fabricated crime then attempted to provide justification for it by citing a completely different type of response.
So Monkey see........ Monkey did wrong.
Perhaps you've had a little too much quafe? 
Archbishop
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: AsheRaven on 07/01/2005 14:07:28
I shall provide further evidence. I too have had the displeasure of dispatching Amarrian Vessels within our borders, each bound to contanimate our populated planets with Vitoc.
The Amarrian navy was dispatched without mercy and their tags now adorn my offices in a proud collection.
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Camar
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:08:00 -
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The logs were confiscated from amarr navy ships and will be handed over to concord officials. Indeed a very sloppy mistake to leave such evidence behind while carring out an terrorist attack...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/01/2005 14:40:22
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/01/2005 14:16:37
I have no doubt that the vitoc carried by the ships that are mentioned is being transported for purely humanitarian purposes. A lot of "free" Minmatar still like to have regular doses of this wonder drug.
Curiously, in an area in which I operate, an official of the Amarrian government frequently sends me on missions to intercept Republic Fleet vessels carrying nerve poison and viral agents to inhabited planets.
The difference?
Nerve gas kills it's victims.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.01.07 14:35:00 -
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In the last few days I have destroyed two flotillas of Amarr Navy vessel engaged in attempted slavery of Caldari *inside* State space.
I have sent all logs and recordings to CONCORD, and the Caldari and Amarr navies. How do the Amarr Navy account for the destruction of two Apocalypse class vessels, and the death of high ranking officers commanding those vessels? Cover it up and claim it was terrorism as normal.
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Camar
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Posted - 2005.01.07 15:13:00 -
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"Death" and death, in the end they are both the same...
Interesting to see that both the empire and the republic can be so influenced by small "cells" and begin using the same tactics.
No doubt an escalation of hostilities between the republic and the empire. But why would an empire that claim they have such a mighty fleet resort to covert-ops in their terrorism...(?)
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:17:00 -
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Indeed, Rodge, you may wel hve stumbled across what I would admit to being cowardly attacks on planetary watar supllys and commend you for stopping them. The Ushra Kahn have been quick to denounce such actions as sheer barbarism and wil not be drawn into the same low tactics.
But you cannot dent that your, Navy's attempts at contanimating our people is an act of terror, that I would have hope you too would have denounced.
Vitoc is poisen, a slow and painful death. There is no justification in the Navy's action here, or the actions of their supierors.
(OOC: They may be missions but they are cannon. Really, i would hope there was a more sensible way to react. Seems we do anything these days, it's a deemed metagaming, even when it's not)
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kostantin Mort on 07/01/2005 16:45:21
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.01.07 16:41:00 -
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I am asking PIE pilots to please stop posting in this thread...
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Camar
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Posted - 2005.01.07 17:00:00 -
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Kostantin Mort:
The post is/was directed towards the amarr empire, I'm sorry to say that Pie is not the empire and that it was only a small footnote in that post. Which was tied to a previous post, nothing more and nothing less...
And if you read the last of the post again you might see what its all about. That certain things/ideas on this forum is being implemented in the game. Thus it had nothing to do with how many bla bla bla npcs were killed or not, if those numbers would count neither the empire or the republic would have any navy left...
The rest of the post was more or less "fillings"
My main enemy is and will be the amarr empire and not Pie/Cva.
Well...lock and delete then...
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Haratu
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Posted - 2005.01.09 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 09/01/2005 02:00:05
The Amarrian Empire does not officially recognise the minmatar repuplic. Therefore an act of terrorism is not recognised... The Republic shouts 'invasion'.
The Minmatar republic does officially recognise the Amarr Empire. Therefore an act of terrorism is recognised... The republic ignores it.
Note: the preivious statements may not be agreed to by myself, I am merely pointing out the way things are.
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Lady Jesabelle
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Posted - 2005.01.09 02:06:00 -
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"The post is/was directed towards the amarr empire, I'm sorry to say that Pie is not the empire and that it was only a small footnote in that post. Which was tied to a previous post, nothing more and nothing less..."
You shouldn't have posted in the first place. It looks like your taunting them. Sorry just the way I see it.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.01.09 02:27:00 -
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Look, as we Minmitar are expected to defend the freedom (and therefore actions) of our people, icluding the pirate elements (and yes, we rise to that challenge because we recoginse the difference between metagaming and canon). The CVA, who claim to be defenders of the Empire cannot brush officla Amarrian action under the carpet when it suits them. They can either ignore the post, defend the Navy or damn the navyt for their actions. It's their choice.
Choosing to ignore politcally testing missions (that in effect could and sometimes do effect storylone) behind the aurgument, "metagaming", is a poor excuse, and I for one am getting sick and tired of hearing the same lame auguments for an unwinable aurgument.
Life is full of unwinable aurguments, so to is Eve. Thats politics for yah.
Live with it
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.01.09 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d'Radonis on 09/01/2005 05:57:00
This story seems completely ridiculous. Why is the world would the Amarr Navy want to dump Vitoc into the atmosphere of a Matari planet? Vitoc isn't even itself a threat. It's the antidote to a poison, so there should be no danger of it harming (or even affecting) the population, and therefore there is no reason that the Amarrian government would possibly want to do this for terrorist or any other purpose.
Even if such were the case, your picture does not prove any evidence that such a plan was in the works. It does not show any connection between these phantom ships and the Amarr government.
But what it does show is that you have killed numerous Amarr military officers including generals. While it is possible that you killed these officers in self-defense or in the defense of others, it is also quite possible that you killed these officers simply because they were Amarr.
Now you may have a war with CVA, but you do not have a war with Amarr Empire, and such if it is discovered that these officers were attacked and killed without provocation, I think you have a very serious problem on your hands.
I will be turning this over to CONCORD for further investigation.
And @ Haratu: Regardless of whether the Amarr Empire recognizes the existence of the Minmatar Republic, an act of terrorism is still an act of terrorism even if this case is not. Terrorism is not only defined as being against another country.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.01.09 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
But what it does show is that you have killed numerous Amarr military officers including generals. While it is possible that you killed these officers in self-defense or in the defense of others, it is also quite possible that you killed these officers simply because they were Amarr.
The Amarr Navy and all *other* empire Navies act as a law unto themselves. I have recently destroyed two Amarr Naval flotillas engaged in slavery of State citizens *inside* State space. I have irrefutable proof as to my location when these flotillas (including Apocalypse class battleships) attacked me for ordering them to cease their illegal activities.
I am held in very good standing by the Amarr Ministry of War, so it came as quite a surprise to see Naval officers (who I probably fought besides during my time in Amarr space) engaged in such activities. I am all to fimilar with running across covert operatives (and being attacked for seeing them) from other empires while engaged in anti-piracy patrols. But to find Naval flotillas engaged in such blatant illegality is extremely disturbing.
All logs and records where submitted to both State and Empire authorities and to CONCORD, but have disappeared in red tape and "fact finding missions".
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Wakita
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Posted - 2005.01.09 14:23:00 -
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Quote:
"The CVA, who claim to be defenders of the Empire cannot brush officla Amarrian action under the carpet when it suits them. They can either ignore the post, defend the Navy or damn the navyt for their actions. It's their choice."
Camar kind of invited them to reply.
Wakita
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