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Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.01 03:22:00 - [1] Awesome WH for your collection. J171019 is the Locus Signature http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/J171019/celestials N110 is the HS exit http://www.eveiverse.com/items/30584#items/30666 M609 is the Class 4 Static entrance http://www.ellatha.com/eve/wormholelistview.asp?key=Wormhole+M609 Wormhole System Effect: Cataclysmic Variable Effect Beacon Class 1 The following informations are based on public available and extracted data which are not part of the official static export from CCP. It's possible that this data is already out of date or CCP may change them in the future. AttributeValueDescription armorDamageAmountMultiplier-10%Armor repair amount multiplier shieldBonusMultiplier-10%Shield transfer amount multiplier shieldBonusMultiplierRemote+25%Shield repair multiplier for remote repair armorDamageAmountMultiplierRemote+25%Repair amount multiplier for remote repairers capacitorCapacityMultiplierSystem+25%Capacitor capacity multiplier rechargeRateMultiplier+25%Capacitor recharge rate multiplier 13 Planets, can make ALL P4 Planetary Items in this Wormhole. You can make about 4bil a month with a small group with this wormhole with sleeper ratting, PI production, and 0.0 mining ops. If you farm the class 4's each day you can make 10x's that amount (will need some serious BC firepower to do that though). Our fleet just farmed the sleeper sites and made over 300mil just from sleepers. This wormhole is completely empty and I have alt with exit waiting to give access to your alt once payment is made. This is a reverse auction, Bidding starts at 1billion isk. Price will drop each day until bid is made. Or you can make your best offer. PRICE: 1 billion isk Auction will end with first accepted bid. If you wish to use 3rd party escrow, we will use Chribba's service and all fees will be paid by buyer. (estimate of 50mil unless you make things difficult for him, then he will charge you more.) :)
chriskun	Posted - 2010.11.01 03:59:00 - [2] Edited by: chriskun on 01/11/2010 04:01:40 first of all, 1B for this system if all of the above is still overpriced.. no one is going to buy this. secondly, are you sure it has a static C4? The IPS link doesn't list it. IPS also only lists ONE possible P4 product, and doesn't have all fuel or components either.
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.01 14:08:00 - [3] Hey that's a great site, and your right, I did look again and it's missing one PI product, Felsic Magma for PI Production. Sorry I'll fix the post. We did scan out the Class 4, and it was an internal M609, which indicates a static, so I'll update if that doesn't stay static, but that's what it looks like, that won't be the first time a database doesn't have all the data. As far as the price, there are no other Class 1's available, and someone might pay that much, I'll drop the price to 900mil, but I didn't see any offer from you :)
gyldenglad3	Posted - 2010.11.01 14:58:00 - [4] You are WRONG. http://www.staticmapper.com/index.php, look up your system J171019. There is ONLY a HS exit linked to this system. The way the static C4 could appear, would be if someone in a C4 activated their static C1 system wormhole, which is quite common. Considering the "useful" PI planets, and the fact that theres easy HS, maybe lower the price to around 150-200m. GL :)
Risingson Mezzanine Inc	Posted - 2010.11.01 15:28:00 - [5] J171019 // Eveeye.com :: IPS Solarsystem Intel & Info
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.01 15:28:00 - [6] Well I do not pretend to know everything, but it's NOT a K162 exit, so it was NOT generated from the other side, which means it's static, and today since it's not another Class 4, but an H121 (class 1) IDK what to call it other then it has a STATIC 2nd WH exit. So I'll fix the post to reflect that. The point is... that since it has a Static HS AND a STATIC 2nd wh, there is 2x's the sleeper ratting possibilities.
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.11.01 15:47:00 - [7] Edited by: Raid''En on 01/11/2010 15:50:10 Originally by: Rollaz but it's NOT a K162 exit, so it was NOT generated from the other side... ok, the begining is good... Quote: ...which means it's static, so because it mew it's a cat ? no, sorry. Quote: and today since it's not another Class 4, but an H121 (class 1) IDK what to call it other then it has a STATIC 2nd WH exit. seems someone really don't know what STATIC mean... this last sentence means it's NOT static. a static is NOT having A wormhole each day, it's having THE SAME wormhole each day. this is only the system wanting someone to find it. it won't last forever. ---------------- Wormhole Trading
gyldenglad3	Posted - 2010.11.01 16:06:00 - [8] There isn't a "static something". If there is another hole than the highsec, it will mean that someone from another wormhole system activated a wormhole to your system. Which is common, as a lot of people in C4, C3 and other systems that can have a C1 static will want to know where an easy exit to highsec is, to sell their sleeper loot.
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.01 16:52:00 - [9] Ok, so gyldenglad3, you are WRONG I was being nice before. If the WH is opened from some OTHER Class 1-5, that opening will be a K-162 on my side. These openings are being generated from THIS WH. So therefore it is a "Static Something". Since I cannot find any other mention of this anywhere, I'll call it a Rollaz opening :) Or, maybe we'll just call it a "Static 2nd" Raid'En I did not find the "definition" of Static anywhere, so why can't it mean what I'm implying?
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.11.01 17:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Raid''En on 01/11/2010 17:07:44 Edited by: Raid''En on 01/11/2010 17:07:13 Originally by: Rollaz Raid'En I did not find the "definition" of Static anywhere, so why can't it mean what I'm implying? because the gameplay works this way since the beginning, that's all. "static" mean here everytime, and always identical. even if we always talk like that, it's not "wormhole static" it's for example a "N110 static" or a "U210 static" what you saw seems more of what is called sometimes "regional static" you'll understand better with time / experience (at least you know more than gyldenglad3 :P) but it's not the place for talking about this ;) ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Vahz Zhul	Posted - 2010.11.01 17:06:00 - [11] It can be just a random wh spawn (has happened to a wh I was wanting to sell) just because it's not a k162 does NOT make it a static. Wait at least 24 hours and see if the wh has a new c4...
Danifae Kemp	Posted - 2010.11.01 17:42:00 - [12] By the looks of it it's an "Ok" wh, however not being able to produce all Pi pos fuels is not too great, lack of being able to produce Enriched uranium, consumer electronics (for robotics). You're probably not gonna get even half of what you're asking. A dead end wh (a Wh with only 1 static (the n110 highsec) is pretty much only good for Pi...Any other wh's that spawn (such as the c4 or c2) are random spawns. A way to check if it's a static c2 (or whatever the wh name is) is to close that hole, rescan and find the new spawn, if it's the same type of Wh (c2 again for an example) then it's static, if nothing new spawns it has no static.
Tea Partier	Posted - 2010.11.01 18:22:00 - [13] Decent planets, if it just had one lava or ice planet, it would be a great system. Having to haul in toxic metals and Chiral structures just doesn't appeal to a serious "Planetville" player like myself. The real money in the system is rocket fuel, mechanical parts and coolant. Raid'en pretty much explained everything. I would only add that there is a possible(theoretical would probably be a better word choice) way to make your WH system spawn random WH's. Once smart corps figure that out, they'll see the possibilities of a C3 with only a HS static.
Greg Huff	Posted - 2010.11.01 20:55:00 - [14] Edited by: Greg Huff on 01/11/2010 20:56:49 K162 means it's the other side of a wormhole, of ANY wormhole - static, random, high-sec, null, low, or w-space. From everything I have experienced leads me to the understanding that the first pilot to find a wormhole gets the defining name (i.e. Z060) and the opposite side will always be K162. Why do I have this understanding... I have an alt living in a C1 with STATIC null-sec. Meaning that there is ALWAYS a wormhole present that leads into null-sec - not the same location in null-sec, just null-sec. Sometimes I see it as Z060, sometimes as K162. Other wormholes come and go at random... random destinations, sizes, and quantities. I agree with the others here, your asking price is way too high, but I understand that was based on your original understandings. It's not worthless though. The PI will easily cover fuel costs.
chriskun	Posted - 2010.11.01 22:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Greg Huff ...It's not worthless though. The PI will easily cover fuel costs. um.. yes this wh is pretty much worthless. It's a dead-end C1 that only has a static back to highsec, and doesn't even cover all POS fuel. who would want this?
Chigy Minmatar The Smoggies	Posted - 2010.11.01 22:44:00 - [16] 50 mil.
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.02 01:02:00 - [17] WOW, you guys sure are talkative...and opinionated. :) I'll check out the sigs tomorrow but I expect I'll see another named exit (meaning it's a "static 2nd") I'll be bummed if it doesn't. haha, Chigy thanks for the bump but ALL the WH sellers will give me 50mil in a heartbeat :) so no thanks, still waiting for a real offer. Greg Huff that's an interesting observation, has that been confirmed anywhere or just your opinion... cause I also have a couple alts in WH's for last 6 months and a "static" HS exit ALWAYS is named... IE N110, and occasionally I'll see a K162 that ALSO leads to HS but that would be the "random" additional hole. chriskun: A Class 1 WH will produce about 1bil a month in sleeper drops, so for a small starter corp this is a great investment, it certainly doesn't compare with higher class WH's loot, but it does pay for itself easily.
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.02 23:48:00 - [18] Bummer, it's not a "2nd static" grrrr, so it's just occasional, but it is named and not K162's so that's at least better then the regular types. Price dropped to 500mil start, will drop each day till sold.
Raid'En	Posted - 2010.11.02 23:57:00 - [19] Edited by: Raid''En on 03/11/2010 00:00:27 Originally by: Rollaz but it is named and not K162's so that's at least better then the regular types would be nice if you read what we write before. this wormhole previous activity had nothing to do with the system itself, it was only linked to the long inactivity of it. this C1 is totally normal. and don't have all fuel. be happy if you sell it for 200m. ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.03 00:40:00 - [20] I did read everything and since I saw what I saw and saw it for two days, I thought I'd found something different, that's all, I do appreciate the feedback though. And I'll be happy with what I get, when I get it, but since you sell WH's, it shouldn't matter to you much, if I sell the only Class 1 on the market for more then you do normally. :) Supply and demand, eh?
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.03 17:38:00 - [21] Price dropped to 450mil, don't be shy make a reasonable offer....
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.04 16:21:00 - [22] Price drops to 400mil, I have in game offer to buy on Saturday, anyone want it now?
Tea Partier	Posted - 2010.11.04 17:49:00 - [23] Let me give you a friendly bump and some advice for WH inhabitants: -When you start getting too much PI stock, when you get to a quiet system, drag it all out and set up a courier contract after your static respawns This allows: -You to not have to go to your static HS exit very often: Which causes: -More WH's to spawn as your WH seeks to be found Which allows: -More chances for pvp, gas harvesting and farming sleepers That causes: -Your WH to be more profitable and exciting because WH living is boring 90% of the time unless you are WH raiders and even they get bad streaks I still think it's too expensive. Good luck on your sale
Private Hans	Posted - 2010.11.04 20:17:00 - [24] 300 Mil buyout?
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.05 01:49:00 - [25] I have a 300mil offer for Saturday, if you want it now, you'd need to best that... I'll take 350 now as that's what it will be tomorrow (fri), make escrow arrangements or send isk to Rollaz for that amount and it's yours.
Private Hans	Posted - 2010.11.05 18:01:00 - [26] Il ¦Take it for 350 mil. Isk sent to you and eve mail with details.
Rollaz	Posted - 2010.11.05 22:33:00 - [27] Isk received, delivery date set. Thanks for the trust. I'll be available on the date you requested. Please send me email with eve game time you wish to meet.
Private Hans	Posted - 2010.11.06 21:41:00 - [28] Transfer make god,fast and safe, good man.
chriskun	Posted - 2010.11.08 04:39:00 - [29] hahahahah did someone actually buy this for 350M? awesome.

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