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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:34:00 -
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Then how come the wormhole leading back to the original universe that the first explorers of new eden are from isn't opening back up? (I think they were from our solar system, been a while since I read the backstory).
Nonetheless, it would be interesting if there was a wormhole that opened up that lead back to the original universe.
Comments?
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:38:00 -
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What space do you think the sleepers are in?
Read the fiction forum for other theories
Also wormholes don't just open up again, they form and then they collapse at random points in space each time. Rarely connecting the same systems again.
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Devil tiger
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:53:00 -
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I think the theory goes that the original EvE gate wormhole was between Galaxies and the current ones just lead to single star systems which according to back story can't be jump gated because jump gates require binary star system to operate (something to do with gravity wells and stuff).
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Falcus Hadron
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:57:00 -
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If we have wormholes in EvE, where are the worms?
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Khors
Read the fiction forum for other theories
I hope you are kidding.
There are 16 year olds who can write better fiction than whoever the guy is who is paid to write that drivel.
Why should anyone have to suffer reading it to get more game info?
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Originally by: Khors
Read the fiction forum for other theories
I hope you are kidding.
There are 16 year olds who can write better fiction than whoever the guy is who is paid to write that drivel.
Why should anyone have to suffer reading it to get more game info?
If you are referring to the forum, they aren't paid, it's fan fiction. In between that there's discussions about w-space and sleepers among other things.
If you are referring to chronicles made by CCP Abraxas and others you are simply wrong, probably bitter.
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Originally by: Khors
Read the fiction forum for other theories
I hope you are kidding.
There are 16 year olds who can write better fiction than whoever the guy is who is paid to write that drivel.
Why should anyone have to suffer reading it to get more game info?
If you are referring to the forum, they aren't paid, it's fan fiction. In between that there's discussions about w-space and sleepers among other things.
If you are referring to chronicles made by CCP Abraxas and others you are simply wrong, probably bitter.
Not bitter in any way - the fan fiction is mostly better written, more imaginative and in all more engaged in the game than abraxas.
Its like reading star wars/star trek fiction. Dull and written for children.
Wasted opportunity.
(btw, I am not a aspiring writer, or indeed interested in fan fic, but why hire someone to produce a product that is worse than the stuff that CCP gets for free from the fans?)
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Not bitter in any way - the fan fiction is mostly better written, more imaginative and in all more engaged in the game than abraxas.
Its like reading star wars/star trek fiction. Dull and written for children.
Wasted opportunity.
(btw, I am not a aspiring writer, or indeed interested in fan fic, but why hire someone to produce a product that is worse than the stuff that CCP gets for free from the fans?)
I guess we just got different taste then.
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Not bitter in any way - the fan fiction is mostly better written, more imaginative and in all more engaged in the game than abraxas.
Its like reading star wars/star trek fiction. Dull and written for children.
Wasted opportunity.
(btw, I am not a aspiring writer, or indeed interested in fan fic, but why hire someone to produce a product that is worse than the stuff that CCP gets for free from the fans?)
I guess we just got different taste then.
Fair enough, we agree to differ.
Good luck in eve sir 
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Corporal Punishment08
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:32:00 -
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As I see and understand things:
The original universe, I'm assuming the Milky Way, was accessible through a wormhole propped open by human technology. When the technology eventually failed, the ppl in New Eden were trapped in another Galaxy. The wormholes that open up now are to different systems in the new galaxy.
Also, Stargates are incapable of getting people between galaxies, just between Solar Systems in 1 galaxy.
That's what I am to understand, but it's been a while since I read the original story.
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Corporal Punishment08
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.02 19:34:00 -
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I just read the backstory. There was no technology involved. Just a lucky wormhole.
I think it's good stuff anyways.
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.02 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Corporal Punishment08
I just read the backstory. There was no technology involved. Just a lucky wormhole.
I think it's good stuff anyways.
Recap:
1. Giant natural wormhole discovered leading to New Eden.
2. Giant jumpgates built at either end.
3. Wormhole collapses. Giant jumpgates still going fine.
4. Something blows up the giant jumpgates, leaving the anomaly in the New Eden system and blowing up all but the one barren planet in it and cutting off the colonies from their home bases on the other side.
5. ???
6. There is no six.
7. Profit! |
GTN
Corp 1 Allstars
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.11.02 22:55:00 -
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Obama will shoot all UFOs coming to the earth!
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.11.02 23:32:00 -
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Based on some Chronicles and findings in w-space there are theories why the wormhole appear and why they connect the known cluster to another cluster 1000ly away that some call Anoikis and where we find the Sleepers and the Talocan ruins. And yes the Joveans are also part of the story, somehow they know that place. How do i know this? Well, to start read the CCP Dropbears posting and then you will realize that you have to read the whole Backstory stuff to actually be able to try to understand wft is going on. As far as i know, no one has figured out so far what the story behind all this is.
Finally a quote from one of the Chronicles for the Motivation:
"The capsuleers. They will settle. They will understand the network eventually, and they will command it."
I think i don't have to explain what it would mean if someone finds out that the wormhole connections somehow could be influenced. And As we know, the Sansha already have such a technology.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.11.03 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Karak Terrel
The Chronicles tell the answer!
umm... Since when has the backstory had any continuity to it at all? Hell, even the psuedo-scientific basis of the game is flawed.
Jump gates are supposedly created in binary systems (see below). In my many years of playing this game I have yet to discover a second star in any solar system I've been to. Apparently the author didn't even pay attention to the game when they went about writing this up (or maybe it was the other way around). Once they start getting things in line, it might be worth paying attention to the EvE fiction. 'Til then it's all suspect.
3 - The principles of jump gate technology.
1) Jump gates are built around artificial wormholes, created by exploiting gravitational resonances found in binary systems.
2) The distance between the two ends of the wormhole depends on the mass of the suns in the binary system and on what resonance node the jump gate is located.
3) There are several strict limitations on jump gate travel. First of all, jump gates can only be constructed in systems with two or more suns, because of the resonance nodes.
BONUS - "...only one jump gate can be in operation in a system at any given time." LOL, really? Somebody please inform Jita.
Taxman IX: Risky Venture
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
Originally by: Karak Terrel
The Chronicles tell the answer!
umm... Since when has the backstory had any continuity to it at all? Hell, even the psuedo-scientific basis of the game is flawed.
Well yeah, thats a big problem of this experiment. I'm sure the stargates are not the only example. The bigger problem is the Stuff ingame. How can you find out if some restrictions like for example the not working jumpdrives in w-space are because of something related to the backstory or simply because of the gameplay. And this are important things. I mean the systems in w-space are often in jump range of each other, you can drop a cyno but you will not be able to jump. Gameplay only or story related?
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Rain Valis
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Posted - 2010.11.03 18:05:00 -
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Ive yet to see any binary systems though...
Guess they forgot the backstory.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.11.03 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rain Valis
Ive yet to see any binary systems though...
Guess they forgot the backstory.
I'm not sure if there will ever be an end to how often this has to be restated, but: Binary companion stars are often so far from each other than they would look roughly as bright or slightly brighter than the rest of the background stars from a planet orbiting one of them, not all binary systems are so close together that it would be immediately obvious to a casual observer.
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