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Tash'k Omar
Apple Construction Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.03 05:03:00 -
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Alright, I've been making a few Excel spreadsheets to make my mining/production a little easier, and I've noticed something. Nearly every post I've read that talks about 'perfect ME' gives the formula of:
Perfect ME = Quantity of highest input / 5
or something very similar to that, can't remember exactly. (Was thinking /5.5 for some reason as well)
Take a blueprint that requires 17 units of something to make. Perfect ME = 17/5 = 3.4, or ME level of 4.
ME = 4 so: (17/1.1)*1.02=15.7636 units, rounded to 16 units.
But now figure out how much of that material it would take with 0% waste. 17/1.1=15.454545
I was under the impression that EVE rounded material costs, so with 0% waste, the blueprint would require 15 units. However, to ever get the blueprint to require 15.4999999 units would be ME = 33.
% waste = 0.1/(1+ME)
% waste = 0.1/(1+33)
% waste = 0.29411764705882%
(17/1.1)*1.00294117647058824 = 15.4999999954
Meaning that the perfect ME value is not largest quantity / 5.
Did I miss something or make any logical errors?
Thanks for the input,
Tash'k Omar
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Tash'k Omar
Apple Construction Inc
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Posted - 2010.11.03 05:17:00 -
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Hm. After thinking about it for a little bit, the only thing I can think of is:
The 'base' production cost of 17 (with waste of 10%) isn't actually 17, it's some magical number that CCP put in the game that's between (16.500000001)/1.1 and (17.4999999999)/1.1
Which is:
15.00000000000000001 - 15.9090909090909
However it's beyond me why CCP would put that in the game. Going to check contracts for some in-game BPOs/BPCs to see what I come up with.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.03 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 03/11/2010 05:41:42
Formula for calculating perfect ME/PE?
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Meaning that the perfect ME value is not largest quantity / 5.
Correct. Use 5.5 and drop the fraction as per the thread linked above (see post #18).
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2010.11.03 13:08:00 -
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Perfect ME = TRUNC(Greatest Mineral Quantity * (Base Waste Factor/0.5))
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.03 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff
Perfect ME = TRUNC(Greatest Mineral Quantity * (Base Waste Factor/0.5))
That is incorrect.
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.03 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 03/11/2010 15:30:30
Originally by: Greg Huff
Perfect ME = TRUNC(Greatest Mineral Quantity * (Base Waste Factor/0.5))
That is incorrect. Try:
ME = TRUNC(largest material quantity subject to waste * 2 * base waste factor / (1 + base waste factor))
Proof is in the post I mentioned above.
However don't forget that from economy point it's not really worth to research anything over ME20.
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