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Ultrablack
Caldari
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.04 01:31:00 -
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Here's what I have right now, I'm trying to make an Omen L2 mission fit. As you can see I'm sticking with T1 items because I don't have a lot of money or SP.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.04 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 04/11/2010 01:48:38
Edited by: Leksi Bar''zuk on 04/11/2010 01:48:01
The best pve omen fit is an arbitrator.
[Arbitrator, L2]
Medium Armor Repairer II
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Large Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Capacitor Recharger II
Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser
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Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerheads/hobgoblins in the drone bay
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.11.04 01:47:00 -
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You don't use plates for PVE, active tank it.
Now onto the real problem: the Omen sucks, especially with a tech 1 fit (short range poor tracking guns are not a good idea in missions that are 90% frigates)
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Lego Maniac
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Posted - 2010.11.04 03:00:00 -
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an ironic dilemma - Omens can't sport a decent T2 fit even if you did have the isk/sp
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Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
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Posted - 2010.11.04 03:54:00 -
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The Arbitrator is a better ship but if you want/already bought your Omen try this,
[Omen, T1 lvl 2s]
Medium I-a Polarized Armor Regenerator
Voltaic Nanite EM Hardener I
Voltaic Nanite Thermic Hardener I
Emergency Damage Control I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Barton Reactor Capacitor Recharger I
Focused Afocal Pulse Maser I, Standard M
Focused Afocal Pulse Maser I, Standard M
Focused Afocal Pulse Maser I, Standard M
Focused Afocal Pulse Maser I, Standard M
Focused Afocal Pulse Maser I, Standard M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin I x3
Everything's low meta T1 as it saves a bit of ISK compared to straight T1, the only really pricey things are the rigs as they come in slightly more than the Omen hull itself but this setup should provide Okish performance in most level 2 missions. Remember to change hardeners to suit the damage type of the mission. |
Cunane
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.04 04:01:00 -
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If you have your heart set on the Omen (after all it is a beautiful hull) then I'd personally go with the following, the Energized plates obivious seasoned to taste depending on the mission.
[Omen, PvE Ultrablack]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Reflective Membrane I
Energized Thermic Membrane I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
10MN Afterburner I
Patterned Stasis Web I
Cap Recharger II
Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Hobgoblin I x3
Tried to keep it both ISK and SP cheap, but the medium armour rep II is really a must. Rigs I'd look at the + armour rep amount one and some CCC's
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Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.04 04:12:00 -
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The Arbitrator is a terrible ship if you have low SP. (Unless those SP are all in drones.)
On my Amarr character I decided to focus on getting better at flying my current ship before moving on to my next one. I've been having a blast in an Imperial Navy Slicer (granted that might be out of your price range), but getting T2 small guns takes less than a week and the slicer is pretty ridiculously awesome. It will murder most L2 missions, and can complete some 3s and 4s if you're careful.
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Botrias Pirabus
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Posted - 2010.11.04 06:07:00 -
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I tried an Omen early on for l2 missions. I read the fluff about them, and thought 'this is what I should use!'
I regretted that action, got back in my Coercer, and saved up for a Maller. I advise the same course of action.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.11.04 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 04/11/2010 14:54:56
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The Arbitrator is a terrible ship if you have low SP. (Unless those SP are all in drones.)
Any cruiser is terrible if you're not skilled for it, but you're going to need those drone skills later anyway so why not get an awesome mission ship while you're at it?
Even 4 hammerhead Is (not hard to train for) and you'll be outperforming the Omen to a ridiculous degree.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.04 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 04/11/2010 14:54:56
Quote:
The Arbitrator is a terrible ship if you have low SP. (Unless those SP are all in drones.)
Any cruiser is terrible if you're not skilled for it, but you're going to need those drone skills later anyway so why not get an awesome mission ship while you're at it?
Even 4 hammerhead Is (not hard to train for) and you'll be outperforming the Omen to a ridiculous degree.
This.
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Starlight Twilight
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Posted - 2010.11.04 17:37:00 -
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train your drone skills up and use the arbitrator
1. you will need those drone skills for the rest of your existance
2. there is nothing in a lvl 2 mission drones can't kill
3. when there is ewar happeneing, it is happeneing to you and your drones will be unaffected
4. drones dont use ammo
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Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.04 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 04/11/2010 14:54:56
Quote:
The Arbitrator is a terrible ship if you have low SP. (Unless those SP are all in drones.)
Any cruiser is terrible if you're not skilled for it, but you're going to need those drone skills later anyway so why not get an awesome mission ship while you're at it?
Even 4 hammerhead Is (not hard to train for) and you'll be outperforming the Omen to a ridiculous degree.
You need Drones V + Drone Interfacing + a bunch of other skills. That's like going into both gunnery and missiles at the same time while you're hurting for SP.
Unless you're committed to flying drone boats and can afford to neglect your gunnery, the Arbitrator just forces you to take a long detour through drone skills.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.04 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mavnas
You need Drones V + Drone Interfacing + a bunch of other skills.
And it benefits every single cruiser+ hull in the game barring a very few outliers (caldari ships mostly) and some frigate hulls (gallente, angels - some of the best frigate hulls there are).
Training drone skills early is a great idea and should not be discouraged.
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EFT Worrier
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Posted - 2010.11.05 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: EFT Worrier on 05/11/2010 12:54:22
for L2s, anything will work, but what you really want is something that's fast moving and kills quickly, ideally from long/safe range. Most of the time, you don't even need an active tank.
Eg:
[Omen, zealot]
Damage Control I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
10MN Analog Booster Rockets
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
Focused Modal Medium Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Modal Medium Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Modal Medium Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Modal Medium Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Focused Modal Medium Laser I, Imperial Navy Standard M
Hobgoblin I x3
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Fuzzy Something
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.11.05 13:20:00 -
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I hate it when someone asks "how do I fit this ship" and people respond with "you should buy [this other] ship and fit it like so:"
I flew the Omen for lvl 2s because I love the hull, and hate fiddling with drone aggro in missions. I'm at work so I can't give you the specifics, but offhand I would guess something like:
Lows: Medium Armor Repair, 3x mission specific hardeners, Heat Sink or Cap Power Relay
Meds: 10MN Afterburner, rest Cap Rechargers
Highs: Whatever lasers you can fit a whole set of (be sure to check the lower tier pulse lasers)
If you absoulutely can't make this fit, keep in mind there are resistance plates with very low CPU use... I can't remember for certain what I used now.
For fitting - some of the named items (ie: "Malkuth" missile launchers) use the least Powergrid and/or CPU without being the best in their class, so they're reasonably cheap.
For price - quite frequently Meta 1 (the "worst" named items) are cheaper than vanilla fittings due to extremely low demand - plus they'll fit a little easier.
The Omen really does need some love. It's a hard ship to get anything more than a basic mission fit on. The Zealot, however, is awesome if you want to stick with that hull.
I just realized you put an image up, but I don't have images enabled, so I apologize if my suggestions are exactly what you have already.
Best of luck.
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Starlight Twilight
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Posted - 2010.11.05 14:15:00 -
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If you really want to fly the omen that bad, you will need to train up Weapon Upgrades and Advanced Weapon Upgrades to reduce the CPU and Powergrid needs of the guns. other skills are Mechanic V (T2 defences), Engineering V (more grid), Electronics V (more CPU).
also, you may also want to put rigs on it.
when I flew the omen I had 3 beams, 1 tractor and 1 salvager. slow but efficient and also made money by salvaging and looting, but with no drones you will have issues killing frigates unless you pop all the frigates first at max range
Star Light Star bright, The first star I see tonight, I wish I may, I wish I might,
Have the wish I wish tonight.
I wish for chocolate! |
Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: Mavnas
You need Drones V + Drone Interfacing + a bunch of other skills.
And it benefits every single cruiser+ hull in the game barring a very few outliers (caldari ships mostly) and some frigate hulls (gallente, angels - some of the best frigate hulls there are).
Training drone skills early is a great idea and should not be discouraged.
Zealot? T3s with non-drone systems?
Maybe it's just me but early on there's so many skills pulling you in different directions. It seems training a bunch of the skills that let you fit T2 modules to 4 first is a better move than any of the skills that requires a 5 then a whole bunch of other stuff.
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