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Von Korona
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:13:00 -
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My hunch is that the two kings of frigate killing would have a hard time vs each other, but that assault frigates have the edge in defense and attack. Who do you think would win in a fight with these two classes, and what ships/modules would you use?
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BigJim Beef
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:17:00 -
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AF every time i'd say.
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Jacmert Corra'Halcyon
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jacmert Corra'Halcyon on 07/01/2005 23:24:08
 Originally by: BigJim Beef
AF every time i'd say.
No doubt. I pilot a thrasher, and if an assault frigate engaged me, I'd be running every time.
Awesome resistances + destroyer's pathetic HP = dead destroyer.
Personally, I'm not even sure if I can take on an inty, but I think that'd be a much more even fight.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.01.07 23:52:00 -
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Assault Frig.
The Destroyer doesn't stand a chance. Really, it's not even close.
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Von Korona
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Posted - 2005.01.08 00:05:00 -
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Thats pretty funny, it's caused a big arguement in our corp too... The tests tomorrow should be pretty funny 
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R Dan
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Posted - 2005.01.08 13:03:00 -
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Assault frig everytime.
in corp tests I and 2 other destroyers separately fought a badly setup hawk.
I used a Thrasher the other 2 had cormerants (or whatever they are called)
the hawk whooped us all. Think he even beat the 2 cormerants at the same time.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.08 13:12:00 -
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ass frig
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2005.01.08 13:43:00 -
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Assault frig everytime, unless the pilot has no clue at all about how to use it. I tested mu Enyo against a thrasher (piloted by someone competent), and could have ripped it appart without even running out of shield. I keep trying to find destroyers or interceptors when I go pvp, but they all flee, unless they have a corpmate in BS around.
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Nomen Nescio
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:07:00 -
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Cormorant:
1 blaster, 5 small nos + something
mwd, 7km scramlber, 2 race jammers
cap relay
Can take some time to waste ass frig with 1 blaster though.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.01.09 19:28:00 -
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assault frigate could win with a civilian gun...
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Moridin
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Posted - 2005.01.10 00:37:00 -
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you better ask Assault Frig vs Cruiser. now that is a bit more fair fight. well i know harpy cant kill a Amarr BC solo. but i can pwn a destoyer in less than 40 sec |
Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.01.11 00:58:00 -
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I can most cruisers :)
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.11 01:54:00 -
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Tested this the other day with a corpm8t. He was in a thrasher and i was in a Jag. I won hands down. He got in some nice shots at the start but went downhill for him after 3 vollies
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2005.01.11 06:21:00 -
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My Hawk can own any Destroyer who is stupid enough to attack me.
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2005.01.11 08:03:00 -
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nothing with frigate lvl hp, and sane resits, can take out a decently piloted assualt frigate (some inties can kill, with difficulty, much difficulty, badly flown and setup assualt frigs, if you're a good inty pilot)
hell, most cruisers can be dropped by a half decent assualt frig pilot
i know i wouldnt; want to try to kill a wolf in a maller
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.01.11 08:36:00 -
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A destroyer and an intie might be able to do it thought.
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Kendar
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Posted - 2005.01.11 08:52:00 -
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nothing below lvl3 cruisers can take a well set up assaultfrig rax, caracal, rupture might take it down will be an even fight,
and destroyer + interseptor = no chanse
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.01.11 09:04:00 -
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A v well piloted inty can take down a destroyer was fighting a cormorant the other day in my ares,,, it was only just winning.
Then backup came
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2005.01.11 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Hygelac on 11/01/2005 09:34:00
Assault frig every time. I've lost track of the destroyers I've taken out with an assault frig. Hell I took out a Thrasher with a Kessie yesterday and was only half armour at the end of it.
Assault Frig vs Cruiser is more of a difficult fight, some I've lost and some I've won. It's very dependant on the skill of your oponent.
(edit, spellings)
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Fastmofo
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:06:00 -
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Wolf all the way, don't vs a thorax with ogres and blaster tho and 4k armor....not a good outcome but against any ceptor or destroyer and below, its easy.
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kwoodward
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:35:00 -
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A Assault frig with even 1/2 a brain can fry 2 destroyers at the same time.
The bigest problem i have found with my harpy is finding something to shoot. They all run or are far to big to mess with, battleship anyone.
I've had one brave inty pilot that decided to have a go (maybe he was running for gate either way what i wanted), he decided it's not a good idea when he got to 20km and had only 1/2 shield from my rails with antimater he orbited a bit(futher out) while i started to change to long range ammo to frag him and then decided to run :/
ONE more stay away from a thorax it will eat a assault alive you can make them VERY hard either a lot of hp or insane resiantances while dealing insane dmg. Although a harpy can soakup the dmg from 8 ogers till your cap dies
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.01.11 14:42:00 -
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destroyers are like wet paper bags to an Assault Frig. cruisers are dry paper bags...
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.11 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: flummox
destroyers are like wet paper bags to an Assault Frig. cruisers are dry paper bags...
good Cruiser pilot will easy own AF..
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.01.11 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: R Dan
Assault frig everytime.
in corp tests I and 2 other destroyers separately fought a badly setup hawk.
I used a Thrasher the other 2 had cormerants (or whatever they are called)
the hawk whooped us all. Think he even beat the 2 cormerants at the same time.
indeed. i was that hawk pilot :P
it wasent *that* badly setup really... think it had 3 150mms (named) with anti matter, and a standard launcher. meds had a light tanking setup (med shield boost 2, em ward, and a shield amp i think.). lows had PDU IIs for shields/cap reasons mainly.
and i also stood up for a while against all 3 of you, it was just that some of you refused to accept that you were dead when i got you into structure and stopped shooting you :P
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy
Originally by: flummox
destroyers are like wet paper bags to an Assault Frig. cruisers are dry paper bags...
good Cruiser pilot will easy own AF..
uh. maybe. but it would have to be not-so-good AF pilot. i'd put my money on AF anytime.
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:55:00 -
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my AF eats up cruisers. So far fallen are a Maller and a Moa. I'd be kinda afraid of a well-setup blasterrax though, or a jamming BB.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:12:00 -
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ôAlthough a harpy can soakup the dmg from 8 ogers till your cap diesö
Did you try to passive shield tank one? Even if the cap dies you should be ok. Passive tanking in theory works very well on those ships. Others have said it works well but I have never done it my self.
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.01.11 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
ôAlthough a harpy can soakup the dmg from 8 ogers till your cap diesö
Did you try to passive shield tank one? Even if the cap dies you should be ok. Passive tanking in theory works very well on those ships. Others have said it works well but I have never done it my self.
you reckon they've got the slots for it? hmm... ok
what do you think is more important to a passive tank, meds or lows? i'll likely have a go at it over the next few days.
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Damien Vox
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Posted - 2005.01.12 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Vox on 12/01/2005 03:52:42
Just a set-up I run that nullifies inty's and leaves them stuck to kill in a destroyer and I also took on a Blasterax and he had to jump (no drones I believe):
 High:
7 Named Nos
1 Malkuth Rocket
Meds:
1 1mn MWD
2 Cap Rechargers
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1 1mn MWD
1 Cap Recharger
1 Jammer
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1 1mn MWD
2 Jammers
Lows:
2 Armor Rep
1 Co-Processor (use if running two jammers)
With the Inty I had him sucked dry for cap in 2 full rounds of running Nos with running and the cap rechargers keep up with the MWD and the nos running once he was dry. He couldn't jump out since he had no cap so my rockets ate away at him till he was dead (took a bit mind you).
The Blasterax I ran two specific (Ion Field) jammers and left him defenseless. He ran because of having a lot more cap then I could suck out in a long period plus in testing I was dead fast due to the drones because they attack regardless of target jam if you fire on the ship.
I like the set-up and its definitely not one you'll see around a lot but its definitely useful and torches interceptors due to how fast it makes them pretty much useless unless they run projectiles though you can run one jammer and one cap recharger if you shut down the MWD once his cap is dead (you can tell due to your cap taking a larger hit once the MWD flips and he's out of cap).
I haven't tested this on a AF though...not had the chanse so I'm not sure what it would do.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.01.12 08:09:00 -
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ôyou reckon they've got the slots for it? hmm... ok
what do you think is more important to a passive tank, meds or lows? i'll likely have a go at it over the next few days.ö
I only glanced at them but they seem to have more slots then normal frigate/cursers. I didnÆt really look hard at the frigate but the Gallante cruiser looked perfect for the job. Other people said they work well.
Low slots are a bit better and will be a lot better if we ever get the T2 modules. You still need a few mid slots as I guess you will want at lest 2 hardeners and one T2 small (large if cruiser) shield extender perhaps 1 afterburner. In the low slots try shield relays, the named ones donÆt use up CPU.
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