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Zoneer
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Posted - 2005.01.08 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Zoneer on 09/01/2005 01:17:44 I call for a full reset of EVE. Its been over a year and a half out of beta and there are people coming up on 25mil skill points. Alliances with over 1 trillion isk. EVE as become bloated and so has its player base. I wouldnt expect any person to start a new in this game. Why would they, they can never hope to changelling any long term player or his bloated(isk and bpo wise) corp. Theres 100's of corps that possess every tech1 bpo and even some tech2. The gap has become to great and insirmountable.
But if CCP wish this game to be for the niche that have been in it in the beinging, I think it is wrong for them to try to leech money from new players(of course they dont, its there bottom line and they sell ice to an eskimo even if it would put that eskimos family in dire consquences) that will not be able to enjoy the game.
Alternatively, a new server could be implemented. So that new players could take up there. So they wouldnt have to be the abused bastard childern of CCP/high skill point, unmovable established overloads/monoplies.
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2005.01.08 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: LLeBRing on 08/01/2005 03:59:07
bull ******* ****
Although I agree on some of the points, just not the main purpose or the goal of your post. However I do not have a solution of my own, but I think that what you propose is too drastic, as you can tell by my "bull ******* ****" remark.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:22:00 -
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Man I think you've been hitting the juice too hard. You think anyone who's played this game for more than a couple months would stand for loosing everything they worked so hard for? All the long-standing involved player created plots and stories and rivalries that make EVE as deep as it is would just be gone.
Besides, if you really think about it skills and abilities plateu pretty quickly since the curve for SP required for the next level is pretty steep but you still only get 5% bonus for most of them once they go from level 4 to 5. +++
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Maire Devylin
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:27:00 -
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Edited by: Maire Devylin on 08/01/2005 04:28:41 They should also give all us new players 500 million isk, free battleships, pre-release dreadnoughts and a free case of Quafe, because, in the heat of the moment, a cold quafe just hits the spot. 
Honestly, no... You can't change when you are born into Eve and you just have to do the best you can. ______________________ There are three truths: my truth, your truth and the truth, I endeavor to find the latter. |

w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:41:00 -
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You trial the idea with your main.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:45:00 -
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think this guy can't take the heat of eve -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.01.08 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kashre Besides, if you really think about it skills and abilities plateu pretty quickly since the curve for SP required for the next level is pretty steep but you still only get 5% bonus for most of them once they go from level 4 to 5.
You are exactly right on this point. And I think it is the best thing CCP ever designed. --------------------------------------------------
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Dorian Harbinger
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Posted - 2005.01.08 05:07:00 -
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As a new player, I actually like that there are altready well established, rich and powerful players. It makes the eve world a more fleshed out place to play in. I'm sure the early days were a mad scramble to establish positions, but now a new player has to be a little more cautious and work slowly and quietly into a position of power. If resources were extremely limited, there might have been a problem, but that's not the case in EVE. Just because other people have 'everything', doesn't prevent you from getting 'everything' too - you just have to make sure they don't get scared of you until it's too late...
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.01.08 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: MooKids on 08/01/2005 06:44:23 I think I speak for most of EVE when I say
**** YOU ALT
Probably someone who just wanted to grief. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.01.08 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Kashre Besides, if you really think about it skills and abilities plateu pretty quickly since the curve for SP required for the next level is pretty steep but you still only get 5% bonus for most of them once they go from level 4 to 5.
You are exactly right on this point. And I think it is the best thing CCP ever designed.
And theyre getting rid of it with specializations and advanced skills. Many skills now give an extremely significant advantage at lvl 5. The skill system is no longer balanced in this way.
Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.01.08 06:56:00 -
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If they had the players a second cluster seperate would be nice
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Mira Spellholde
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Posted - 2005.01.08 06:59:00 -
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Thank ya Rollin, thats what it was.  -----------------
Billboard Evasion Rank(4) SP: 374100/512000
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Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2005.01.08 07:13:00 -
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Trust me most of you dont know what the begaining of this game was like. It was very slow paced and took nearly 2 weeks to raise the cash for a merlin..... I do that in 2 mins now
You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it
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pxmars
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Posted - 2005.01.08 07:18:00 -
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LOL oh my sides hurt. ROFL like i want a year worth of sp to disappear and have to start over. I might do that if I got all my money back.
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Aerieva
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Posted - 2005.01.08 07:20:00 -
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Microsoft has a monopoly on the windows BPO, the US military is too strong and my neighbor has a nicer car then me, lets reset the planet as well.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2005.01.08 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zoneer I call for a full reset of EVE. Its been over a year and a half out of beta and there are people coming up on 25mil skill points. Alliances with over 1 trillion isk. EVE as become bloated and so has its player base. I wouldnt expect any person to start a new in this game. Why would they, they can never hope to changelling any long term player or his bloated(isk and bpo wise) corp. Theres 100's of corps that possess every tech1 bpo and even some tech2. The gap has become to great and insirmountable.
Quote: perĀsisĀtent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-sstnt, -zs-) adj.
-Refusing to give up or let go; persevering obstinately. -Insistently repetitive or continuous: a persistent ringing of the telephone. -Existing or remaining in the same state for an indefinitely long time; enduring: persistent rumors; a persistent infection.
Quote: world ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wđrld) n. -The earth. -The universe. -The earth with its inhabitants. -The inhabitants of the earth; the human race. -Humankind considered as social beings; human society: turned her back on the world. -People as a whole; the public: The event amazed the world. often World A specified part of the earth: the Western World. -A part of the earth and its inhabitants as known at a given period in history: the ancient world. -A realm or domain: the animal world; the world of imagination.
Is there some part of the definition that eludes you?
Originally by: Zoneer Alternatively, a new server could be implemented. So that new players could take up there. So they wouldnt have to be the abused bastard childern of CCP/high skill point, unmovable established overloads/monoplies.
The one world we have is empty enough as it is, thanks. For every Yulai system with 100 people in it 24/7, there's 50 systems with 0 population and 0 jumps in 24 hours for days at a time.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Kendar Zek
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Posted - 2005.01.08 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Aerieva Microsoft has a monopoly on the windows BPO, the US military is too strong and my neighbor has a nicer car then me, lets reset the planet as well.
That almost sounded like a campaign ad for the US Democrat party.
I laughed.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2005.01.08 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zoneer I call for a full reset of EVE. Its been over a year and a half out of beta and there are people coming up on 25mil skill points. Alliances with over 1 trillion isk. EVE as become bloated and so has its player base. I wouldnt expect any person to start a new in this game. Why would they, they can never hope to changelling any long term player or his bloated(isk and bpo wise) corp. Theres 100's of corps that possess every tech1 bpo and even some tech2. The gap has become to great and insirmountable.
But if CCP wish this game to be for the niche that have been in it in the beinging, I think it is wrong for them to try to leech money from new players(of course they dont, its there bottom line and they sell ice to an eskimo even if it would put that eskimos family in dire consquences) that will not be able to enjoy the game.
Alternatively, a new server could be implemented. So that new players could take up there. So they wouldnt have to be the abused bastard childern of CCP/high skill point, unmovable established overloads/monoplies.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2005.01.08 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Rift Scorn on 08/01/2005 08:21:10
Originally by: Zoneer I call for a full reset of EVE. Its been over a year and a half out of beta and there are people coming up on 25mil skill points. Alliances with over 1 trillion isk. EVE as become bloated and so has its player base. I wouldnt expect any person to start a new in this game. Why would they, they can never hope to changelling any long term player or his bloated(isk and bpo wise) corp. Theres 100's of corps that possess every tech1 bpo and even some tech2. The gap has become to great and insirmountable.
But if CCP wish this game to be for the niche that have been in it in the beinging, I think it is wrong for them to try to leech money from new players(of course they dont, its there bottom line and they sell ice to an eskimo even if it would put that eskimos family in dire consquences) that will not be able to enjoy the game.
Alternatively, a new server could be implemented. So that new players could take up there. So they wouldnt have to be the abused bastard childern of CCP/high skill point, unmovable established overloads/monoplies.
One of the beauties of that game that I play is the fact that everyone is on the same server as opposed to many seperate shards, as other games are 
and no, if you do start the game late, like i did, then specialise in a certain area, the fact that T2 learning skills have been released means that 'n00bz' can catch up in SP much quicker than players in castor could ever have hoped, if you put the time and effort into the correct areas first.
A full reset would negate the players that have worked hard for a year and a half to get where they've got now, and thats not fair either, what you going to benefit, the odd 3 month subscriber? or the commited player?
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.01.08 08:22:00 -
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No.

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Jaydom
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Posted - 2005.01.08 09:18:00 -
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The beauty and appeal of EVE is the ability to grow..and not worry about "armagedeon" (well unless the game is going down).
My corp played another game where resets where every few months..very fustrating to have all your work blinked away :)
One continous universe = w1n
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.01.08 09:22:00 -
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A full reset would get rid of my minmatar/Amarr-based skills and my carebear science/industry/mining skills...........
I say aye!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.01.08 09:35:00 -
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Honestly wouldn't mind another server if they ever did decide that later down the line to intice new players.
But as to a reset,...well everyone else said what I want to say in the "****" way.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.01.08 09:38:00 -
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I wouldn't mind there being some sort of ingame storyline whereby a massive disaster (market crash/station logging) that result in everyone losing most of their assets. This could be tied in with a near disappearance of COCORD protection and Eve would become a lawless "Wild West" until someone could wrestle some sort of control and a slow rise to prosperity.....
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Thyro
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:15:00 -
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Well if u born today in Real World ... you get McDonalds, CocaCola, UK Queen, Jorge Bush, Mr Bin and many others well stablish and rich in this World.
Would you like to reset the World too? Just because you born?
Well I dont think so!
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:18:00 -
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\o/ Beta all over again
h4xb4n
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:46:00 -
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It's perfectly easy for a new player to work at it for a couple of months, train skills, buy a ship, kit it out well, and then beat any long-term player in pvp.
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Alinzinoria
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:53:00 -
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Okay this thread is proboly going to get locked soon but before that I take my chance and say that this is by far the most stupid alt post so far on the forum.
You should not need to say more. Anyone that does not feel serious jelous about everything in this game, and want it reset so he/she can take advantage and become one of thoose players with much power understands it.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2005.01.08 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: KIAPieman on 08/01/2005 10:55:11
Originally by: Joshua Calvert I wouldn't mind there being some sort of ingame storyline whereby a massive disaster (market crash/station logging) that result in everyone losing most of their assets. This could be tied in with a near disappearance of COCORD protection and Eve would become a lawless "Wild West" until someone could wrestle some sort of control and a slow rise to prosperity.....
i have been saying somthing along those lines for a long while. that would be fun --------------------------------------------------------
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.01.08 11:00:00 -
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I originally played when EVE came out but found it buggy thus stopped after a short period, having returned in Spet last year I would find it mighty annoying if the servers were reset and I lost the extra 2+mill sp I've made since then. Your Miner II perfectly blows up in its mount, wrecking for 900000000 damage. |
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