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Kahaal
88th Tactical
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Posted - 2010.11.11 03:55:00 -
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Just as the tiltle says. ffs, its by far the ugliest looking ship in EVE.
CCP... You did an hell of a job with the Scorp. Do the same with the Moa please :)
Don't change it... throw away the current model, burn every backup of it and start from scratch!
I know It's not high on the priority of things, but put it on your "when there's time" todo list. |

Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.11 03:58:00 -
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Love that sexy Moa hull.
+1 for the metal asymetrical Giraffe!
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Selinate
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.11 04:04:00 -
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I was always under the impression that caldari ships are supposed to be ugly as sin, with their dedication to efficiency and no-nonsense and what not.
Then again, if it were up to me, I would change it. so I support this...
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Tather Demaleon
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Posted - 2010.11.11 05:04:00 -
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moa is one of my favourite hulls.
pleaaaase don't touch it.
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Whaddahell
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Posted - 2010.11.11 09:08:00 -
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its "a hell of a job" not "an hell of a job".
That'll be 50M for the grammar police.
The Moa is ugly. But atleast its finished, unlike the Aeon which is 75% built.. But the Moa could still use a new model. It is pretty bad....
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 -
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Moa hull is easily the ugliest ship hull in the game.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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klyeme
Soft War
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Posted - 2010.11.11 18:15:00 -
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Currently why would anyone fly it? Its ugly and hybrids suck.
If they make it pretty some people would fly it because hybrids still suck.
After they fix hybrids, I will fly it because hybrids will not suck and it will look sexy.
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Shin Dari
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:48:00 -
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Yes the Moa is ugly, I can barely move myself to pilot one. The model doesn't seem to follow any sense of logic.
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Fohacidal
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate I was always under the impression that caldari ships are supposed to be ugly as sin, with their dedication to efficiency and no-nonsense and what not.
Then again, if it were up to me, I would change it. so I support this...
There is a difference between building a ship with a utilitarianistic point of view and building a ship to make the design intentionally appear as an afterthought. There is no efficiency in a ship when all its parts are separated in random directions and seem to hang out in their own area, in real life it would also make a ship incredibly hard to repair as the entire ship is made up of random unique pieces made to cater simply to the chaotic design of that particular ship.
Also I hate the moa hull
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.11 22:30:00 -
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Yes please, and all the other goofy ships.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Mopsy Six
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:34:00 -
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it looks unique and any look topics are lost from the beginning since you're not a space ship designer living thousands of years from now
beside this game has a milion more important problems than designing new models no one's going to look on 90% of the time anyway
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.11 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mopsy Six it looks unique and any look topics are lost from the beginning since you're not a space ship designer living thousands of years from now
I don't need to be a physicist to see that some Eve ships will fly in circles.
I don't need to be an Engineer or an Accountant to point out how much wasted space and materials there are with some Eve ships.
I don't need to be a military expert to point out the awful combat profile of some Eve ships.
I don't need to be a rocket scientist to say the Moa and many other Eve ships look bad.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.12 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tather Demaleon moa is one of my favourite hulls.
pleaaaase don't touch it.
This.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.11.15 13:46:00 -
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A cruiser sized version of the Phoenix hull would be uber. Not identical but that sort of shape. Solid looking.
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matthiastee
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Posted - 2010.11.15 18:40:00 -
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not supported i Fcking hate the moa hull but if they were to change that they would have to change almost every other ship in game i dont know who designed their ships they are probably brain dead.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.11.15 19:05:00 -
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Supported. ^^ yes they should have to change every other **** hull out there. the scorpion got fixed, so should the moa and uh what else how about the freaking bellicose like... please make the ships look cool....
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Kaito Aran
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.15 22:37:00 -
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There are worse hulls, and the Moa is kind of unique...
The Moros, on the other hand.... 
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Janaren Usaema
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Posted - 2010.11.16 11:02:00 -
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i have to agree.
though, the moa isn't as bad as some, there are quite a few ships that are even less than pleasant to look at.
the gallente ships are the ones that are generally the worst for me. imicus(oh jesus christ why), atron(looks like someone sawed two different ships in half and glued them together), catalyst, thorax, vexor & dominix(just for their freaky face textures really) and alot of other plainly mediocre designs; ones that look distorted with no real direction or reason, aside from to tick all the boxes on their make-a-gallente-ship sheet.
anyway, after the scorpion redesign, i was under the impression that CCP was already initiating (or atleast thinking about initiating) the process to sharpen up the older hull designs, and although i'd appreciate shinier ships sooner, i'd much rather have ships that actually functioned (atleast, to an extent). usable, reworked hybrids, AFs/destroyers/gallenteshipsingeneral/faction ships rebalanced and that goddamn lag all need to adressed as soon as possible and i fear that CCP would be far happier avoiding the situation by making lots of pretty 3d models instead of doing something actually useful.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.11.16 15:04:00 -
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Screw that ccp leave my vexor alone seriously I love that ship.
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Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2010.11.16 18:29:00 -
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Wasting time
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.11.16 18:36:00 -
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Here's the deal, oh people who say this is a waste of time.
Model/graphic designers are not coders.
Asking them to redesign a ship means coders will have to focus on existing content rather than new content, as new content usually needs new models. So, if you want ships redesigned for aesthetic purposes, you should be in favor of this. If you want the code monkeys to be fixing stuff rather than making new content, you should want the graphics people tied up on things other than new content. Simple as that.
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Kahaal
88th Tactical
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Posted - 2010.11.21 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bagehi Here's the deal, oh people who say this is a waste of time.
Model/graphic designers are not coders.
Asking them to redesign a ship means coders will have to focus on existing content rather than new content, as new content usually needs new models. So, if you want ships redesigned for aesthetic purposes, you should be in favor of this. If you want the code monkeys to be fixing stuff rather than making new content, you should want the graphics people tied up on things other than new content. Simple as that.
Good post! A little bit OT here, but I think that, at this point, almost everyone wants CCP to fix and finish the product that is live now on TQ, instead of wasting resources on another half-content semi-finished expansion.
As I stated on the OP, this proposal would never be prioritized over issues like lag, game balance, etc...
Reading your post, makes me think it could be done simultaneous. If the coders will be working on existing content, makes sense that the artists would do the same.
All in all, it's just eye candy... but we like it :D
PS: Changing OP to "Moa and other goofy ships" :) PS2: Supporting my own idea lol |

Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:18:00 -
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Fully agreed. Nothing wrong with some more pretty hulls to look at.
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Estella Gateau
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:31:00 -
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Crucifier too. :( |

Kabaal S'sylistha
Technomage Trilogy Comrades-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:36:00 -
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Just wanted to comment on the whole "Caldari just care about function!" thing.
Similar construction == Easier to produce == Cheaper to produce == larger profit margin.
If anything, the Caldari design methodology should be about maximizing ship output while minimizing ship production costs. Then you also take into consideration that aesthetics sell. That's why women buy the pretty pink razor that says "Venus" on it when it's just another razor.
Not saying that there aren't going to be some cases where a perfectly symmetrical design isn't the best, but that doesn't mean it has to be ugly as sin. One of the most famous and beautiful scifi spaceships happens to be asymmetrical, and it does smuggling runs so fast it measures its performance in distance, not time.
TL;DR - Just give some of the ship design people a few GTCs and get them to redo the Caldari ships, ffs :( -More Pewpew, Less QQ- |

Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2010.12.08 12:43:00 -
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I really like the Moa, of course I don't understand why that ***** seems sticking out under the neck of the giraffe.
However I really like the Onyx look as well, I think it's a good ship.
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.12.09 23:49:00 -
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Keep your meat socks off my Moa/Eagle/Gila/Onyx you ****s! That is, without a doubt, my favorite ship model in game. Change whatever else you want, but leave the Moa model alone!      Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
NO! |

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.12.10 01:30:00 -
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NOT SUPPORTED.
The Moa model is pure sex. It's a pity that the ships that use it are generally less than spectacular.
Taxman IX: Risky Venture
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Azeala Drucilla
Amarr Moebius Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.10 04:33:00 -
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Supported.
Kill the Moa. KILL IT. And while you're at it, murder the Imicus as well.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.10 04:45:00 -
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Supported....100,000,000%
Its funny seeing how many people favor this vs the ones that don't. lol
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