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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:05:00 -
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While I can understand that the Gallente don't always think with their head, I am surprised to see that it's also contraband to Sisters of EVE, which is multi racial.
Leave our products alone 
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:30:00 -
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The fact that it's made from raw sewage is of course not a factor at all..
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:35:00 -
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Hmm, Protein Delicacies, those delightful pieces of organic waste, toxic sewage and second-grade biomass that was sold under a false name by the Sukuuvesta Corporation to the Gallente schools, and caused a number of problems in the Gallente school system by decreasing the cognotive ability of Gallente children.
And you wonder why they're classed as contraband by Gallente and Sisters of Eve (they're not exactly going to be happy about children eating toxic waste, are they?). Read your history, boy...
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:41:00 -
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"The fact that it's made from raw sewage is of course not a factor at all.."
Well, so is Quafe and you don't see Gallente smacking a fine on people for ferrying it...
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2005.01.09 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Matt Ivresse on 09/01/2005 17:52:14
Um, that's probably because Quafe isn't made out of raw sewage, you just think it tastes like it is, whereas Protein Delicacies are actually made with toxic waste. Don't make stupid lies like that, you only end up looking like a fedo...
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:00:00 -
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If I recall correctly, at one point (around the same time as the protein delicacies scandal) Drink Starsi claimed to have done an analysis of materials moved in Quafe convoys. Once you discount the EW modules and cruise missiles, the main thing they hauled was garbage...
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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:03:00 -
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Protein Delicacies is made out of meat, while Quafe is made out of garbage. I would rather eat something made out of meat than drink the toxics from someones thorax batteries.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:12:00 -
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"Um, that's probably because Quafe isn't made out of raw sewage, you just think it tastes like it is, whereas Protein Delicacies are actually made with toxic waste. Don't make stupid lies like that, you only end up looking like a fedo..."
You're right, Quafe is not made out of raw sewage. It's instead made out of raw garbage and the same addictive agents you can find in tobacco. And no need to lie about anything -- you only have to check the Quafe buying orders to verify it after all...
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Dimebar
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:18:00 -
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If this is the case, why don't you ask your State why they haven't declared Quafe as contraband then?
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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:28:00 -
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It's probably because it's hard to get rid of an established product, especially when it's an addictive product. Just my personal guess though.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.01.09 18:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Dimebar
If this is the case, why don't you ask your State why they haven't declared Quafe as contraband then?
Because Conscience-For-Prosperity is State policy. Which is unfortunate -- so many of our citizens have such potential, and they throw their humanity away in the corporate money machine.
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ariola
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Posted - 2005.01.09 20:28:00 -
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I heard Quafe contains isogen.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:10:00 -
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From my studies in teaching method that I do in my spare time i understand that 'cognitive ability changes in children' (ie. the way things effect one's intelligence) can not accurately be measured in any way and can only be estimated to a very large error.
It may be that Gallente merely created an excuse to not sell a popular Caldari product as cognitive ability can not provide good enough evidence for contrabanding a product. It may be that the children's mental facilities were simply degraded by natural means or the Gallente teaching method was flawed at the time, it may also be attributed to the increased levels of drugs and use of multimedia in the gallente federation.
Also realise that the fact it is garbage and toxic waste is irrelevant, some of the greatest products in history are made from garbage.
Take fruit for example... it grows on trees which is grown in fertiliser which comes from... uhhh... yeah you get my drift.
Another great example is teflon (found in the chemistry lab garbage) and penicillin (from leaving bread out too long).
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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shiipo on 13/01/2005 13:15:49
Originally by: Haratu
It may be that Gallente merely created an excuse to not sell a popular Caldari product as cognitive ability can not provide good enough evidence for contrabanding a product.
That would probably explain why it's not confiscated in 0.7 and lower in Gallente Federation space.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.01.09 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
If I recall correctly, at one point (around the same time as the protein delicacies scandal) Drink Starsi claimed to have done an analysis of materials moved in Quafe convoys. Once you discount the EW modules and cruise missiles, the main thing they hauled was garbage...
Quite true, Quafe purchase a LOT of garbage from me. I wonder what use they might have with those quantities of garbage... 
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Haratu
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Posted - 2005.01.10 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
If I recall correctly, at one point (around the same time as the protein delicacies scandal) Drink Starsi claimed to have done an analysis of materials moved in Quafe convoys. Once you discount the EW modules and cruise missiles, the main thing they hauled was garbage...
Quite true, Quafe purchase a LOT of garbage from me. I wonder what use they might have with those quantities of garbage...
Quafe has packaging... they probably recycle the garbage to produce cans and bottles. Many softdrink companies do such.
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Erai
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Posted - 2005.01.10 09:18:00 -
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It is a drag, you know- I was planning to set up a small distribution centre to get protein delicacies to soup-kitchens. Got in touch with a Sisters of Eve contact, but she got pretty steamed up when I even mentioned "P.D.". My bad, I had no idea they felt so strongly about them. 
So, so much for my little effort. But maybe they will come around someday- after all, even if the raw materials used for P.D. are a bit yucky, the stuff is still pretty good, not too expensive, and keeps well. And, hell, even grain grows well when the soil is fertilised with doo-doo, from cattle and even from... humans *shudders* But do we consider our bread to be reprocessed s**t? Of course not.
Sure, there "may" be some prion contamination in P.D.- As long as there is no conclusive evidence of it being there or not don't let children eat too much of it- but it's good, it's nourishing, it's affordable- be sure to have some! (btw, it goes pretty well with quafe ultra  )
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Jera
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Posted - 2005.01.10 16:44:00 -
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Quafe convoys also ferry within State space viral agent, as Drink StarsiÖ already gave proof in this report.
Discuss loyalty to the State issues on the 'Caldari' channel
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Dimebar
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Posted - 2005.01.10 17:04:00 -
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Riiight, and where were those so-called 'results' that you promised after studying these virus agents?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.11 15:41:00 -
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It doesn't surprise me that the Gallente want to reduce our trading. Anything that doesn't come in a very pretty package makes them afraid that we didn't bother much with the content, when in fact it's the other way around : We make high quality stuff that works and does what it's supposed to do, while the gallente make bad excuses for crap and put it in a nice box that in itself costs more to make than the product.
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Dimebar
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Posted - 2005.01.11 16:35:00 -
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Look, just because the Gallente are a hell of a lot more aesthetically pleasing in terms of looks than most of you Caldari, doesn't mean you can slander their stuff just because their packaging looks nicer than yours. I mean, I'm not a pretty picture myself, but really, some of you Caldari would have a pretty hard time bedding a female from my tribe, and that's saying something...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.12 09:53:00 -
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I don't mind them doing pretty packages, it's only natural because it makes stuff sell better. I just have a problem with the fact that they seem to care more about how stuff looks than how they work.
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2005.01.12 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
I just have a problem with the fact that they seem to care more about how stuff looks than how they work.
Too true.
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SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.01.13 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: SlaneeshZ on 13/01/2005 14:25:45
Again typical Caldari propaganda running berserk because they cannot dispose their toxic waste cheaply anymore due to some heavy treatieing. Instead they, in ultra-capitalist manner, just convert them into edible materials. That's right, edible, which does not match with healthy or tasty. As a result of several serious individual cases of lethal spinal ulcer coming from these byproducts of Caldari rockets and hydraulics manufacturing the Senate just declared them as illegal, they did that in agreement with other cooperating factions, just like the SoE, here. It is nice to fill hungry stomaches, but surely not nice to kill them in the longer run, so there is in no way a philantropic purpose behind the appeal to get rid of that ban which in fact is just asking to have poor and hungry citizen's stomaches filled with industrial waste. Now what should the Caldari state do ? Simply the same what other factions do since a while too, recycling and refining the byproducts which will be alot more costly and that's exactly the reason why they refuse to do it. The question is why ? Products like Quafe clearly show that you can recycle dangerous industrial byproducts into substances used in medicine, aphrodisiacs and more - Quafe.
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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.13 14:31:00 -
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Maybe if we made a pretty box you would remove the ban and see how good the product really is.
What I can read from your post is that it's ok when you make drinks out of garbage and it's not ok when we are refining meat. Makes me sick.
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SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.01.13 14:47:00 -
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They are already putting a nice and shiny box around it by calling it "Proteine Delicacy" when in fact they mix several things together and even substances gained from unrefined industrial waste. Refining it would take time and money, which Caldari corporations are known to be reluctant to spend. Perhaps if they would care less about quickly earned ISKs for the corporation but more about the individual they could easily come up with a competing product. The Caldari state has the capacities to do but they rather tend to spend it on military research.
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Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.01.13 14:55:00 -
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Shiipo, did you not read Hakera's post? It's the packaging that's made from recycled garbage, not the drink itself. If the drink itself was made from garbage don't you think the SCC would have noticed it by now?
And they say the Amarr are narrow-minded...
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Erai
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Posted - 2005.01.13 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mariah Lawsara
Shiipo, did you not read Hakera's post? It's the packaging that's made from recycled garbage, not the drink itself. If the drink itself was made from garbage don't you think the SCC would have noticed it by now?
And they say the Amarr are narrow-minded...
I saw a Civire enjoy a can of Quafe once. I suggested that he should use a straw, but he refused,saying knifes and forks are sturdier. That's why Starsi is so popular there, their cans are much more chewable 
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Phennick Vronsky
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Posted - 2005.01.13 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Phennick Vronsky on 13/01/2005 19:59:14
Originally by: Scorpyn
gallente make bad excuses for crap and put it in a nice box that in itself costs more to make than the product.
The VBS Deimos comes without packaging. We've had no complaints from our customers as to its quality.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.01.18 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Phennick Vronsky
Edited by: Phennick Vronsky on 13/01/2005 19:59:14
Originally by: Scorpyn
gallente make bad excuses for crap and put it in a nice box that in itself costs more to make than the product.
The VBS Deimos comes without packaging. We've had no complaints from our customers as to its quality.
A dead costumer don't complain very much.
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Cydrone
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:54:00 -
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The Protien Delicacies were a good gimmick while they lasted. We were payed by the Gallente to dispose of our garbage by feeding it to their children. Which in turn caused a decrease in "cognitive ability." Imagine if the gallente had continued to feed this to their children, in 20 years we' have a nation of inept idiots. Not much might have changed, but it would be a devastating blow. But that's capitalism for you folks. If you can't stand the competition, step out of the race.
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Shiipo
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cydrone
Imagine if the gallente had continued to feed this to their children, in 20 years we' have a nation of inept idiots.
Even if Protein Delicacies had had that effect, would anybody notice any difference if it happened to the Gallente? I think not.
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Cydrone
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Posted - 2005.01.20 06:13:00 -
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Hence my next line. :)
Hehe. Nevertheless if we are unable to practice our form of business because it offends the Gallente, I'd say give us Caldari Prime. I find the fact that Gallente feet tread on it offensive. This gross control of the beverage market by Quafe offends me as well.
If you bring up the "That's Business" clause, then by all means do. Just be aware that Protien Delicacies was a business maneuver. (And a very successful one for the short while it was around, I might add.)
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Greed is Eternal
It doesn't think, It doesn't feel
It doesn't laugh or cry
All it does from dusk till dawn
Is make the soldiers die.
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