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Vyktor Abyss The 8th Order	Posted - 2010.11.14 03:48:00 - [61] Adamus, You rock, seriously. Without you Eve would not be so much fun.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.11.14 04:00:00 - [62] Originally by: Lily Fair This is what happened. You two were either account sharing, or your friend just got his eyes on your password. He took over your account, immediately making you think you have been hacked. He then explains that his account his hacked as well. Your friend is either playing both accounts, or made a new account and transferred everything worth transferring to that account. Most likely also his main char. Scenario what ever it may be, you have been had by your friend. This is probably the most likely scenario.
KaarBaak Minmatar Seatec Astronomy	Posted - 2010.11.14 05:26:00 - [63] Originally by: Aessoroz Edited by: Aessoroz on 13/11/2010 18:39:07 Edited by: Aessoroz on 13/11/2010 18:38:26 Edited by: Aessoroz on 13/11/2010 18:36:41 Edited by: Aessoroz on 13/11/2010 18:36:17 Edited by: Aessoroz on 13/11/2010 18:35:45 Originally by: Raid'En Originally by: Miss President question to CCP: If a hacker uses a program that guesses password, do you have a feature in game the locks the account out for a certain time and notifies the owner after a certain number of failed attempts? If not, then why NOT? best line of defense, don't use account names same as your game names and emails. that's an interesting question, want to know also if there's some sort of security to avoid this. Given that CCP has forced password requirement of at least one capital, one lowercase and one number in a password with a minimum length of 6. There's 62 possible characters in each position of the password which means theres 56,800,235,584 possible combinations to guess the minimum password, if someone has 8 characters, then it explodes to 218,340,105,584,896 combinations. It just isn't possible for someone to crack the password tha through an interface such as the game or the account login page within a human lifespan. Certainly passwords can be bruteforced in minutes with some setups even with that many combinations BUT that requires the interface you're guessing the passes in to be more local or little more responsive then when essentially DDOSing a server. Keep in mind that the forced password requirements are a fairly new feature and only required for new accounts or password changes. KB Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
dankness420	Posted - 2010.11.14 05:42:00 - [64] I dont run any active antivirus or antimalware software and I haven't even gotten an infection... want to know why?? Because I am not ******ed. Sucks that the OP installed a keylogger while trying to install that botting software or 'eve hax' or whatever he did. Don't blame CCP though.
Taser Monkey Against All Asteroids	Posted - 2010.11.14 06:49:00 - [65] Originally by: AdamiaMaxima i have 4 antiviruses on this comp i doubt a key logger got through without being noticed LOL, a new meme has been born! Forget your seven proxies, I have four AV's! My account was hacked a week ago - I play on a Mac, no viruses or key-loggers on there at all and I've verified this. But... but... weren't Macs supposed to be 150% safe due to anonymity? OWNED! Originally by: Mr Epeen How odd. I run no active AV, anti-malware, anti spyware, Trojan scanner or process scanner. What I do is run the lump of gray stuff in my head in a reasonably efficient manor. I have never been hacked, keylogged or lost important info. As a gamer of actual games that run a fair bit of CPU, the last thing I want is a bunch of crap programs on my PC tying up perfectly usable CPU cycles for nothing. Smart computing is safe computing. Learn how to do it right. Mr Epeen 1. Download VMWare. 2. Run a light, easy to install Linux distro and surf all the ** you want. 3. Discard and start again when it becomes severely infected. 4. Profit See the lack of ???. It's because this is incredibly safe and effective. It's not lag/stutter free but it works just fine for frequenting unsafe sites. And the reason I use Linux is... why not? I don't like XP but could easily run XP mode in Win 7 but I like to run Linux, makes me feel 1337 (Linux is actually pretty **, it'll never become mainstream unless they remove the need to use command line codes everytime you want do to something productive).
Cyber Blue Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.11.14 06:59:00 - [66] Mr Epeen Brennivargur and others How odd indeed that people can read a post and not understand what it said and/or add to it. Who said rely 100% on anti-virus? Who said every single one of those programs I mentioned were active? What is odd, however, is not using an active anti-virus at least along with a firewall. If you think what you call "safe computing" is the only thing that you need, then you have no idea what you are talking about. There are layers to security and every single one of them need to be used. Yes, it begins at the user level by being careful and knowing what is out there and how it can compromise your system. You also can not rely solely upon yourself as humans are flawed and make mistakes. You don't want a program watching your back just in case? I know I do. Hmm, you don't want to know what processes you have running and what they are up to? Ok, fine, that's your choice. You do know that malware and spyware are related but are in fact two different things? Why not scan for both on a schedule? How about determining what ports are open and visible on your system and either close them or hide them. Not needed you say? You never know. Just because you think you are safe does not mean you are. You would think EVE players would understand that well. End of line...
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.11.14 07:02:00 - [67] Originally by: AdamiaMaxima i have 4 antiviruses on this comp i doubt a key logger got through without being noticed inb4 this
Mme Pinkerton United Engineering Services	Posted - 2010.11.14 08:25:00 - [68] Originally by: AdamiaMaxima i have 4 antiviruses on this comp i doubt a key logger got through without being noticed Considering the recent (last few years) surge of fake antivirus software it's not so unlikely that one of those 4 is your problem.^^
Sir Asterix	Posted - 2010.11.14 10:22:00 - [69] Friend A has horrible security and has an infected computer/computers. Friend B is security mined and has a clean system. Friend A invites Friend B round for a few drinks and some eve. Friend B logs on via Friend A's computer handing thier account details over to a third party. Friend B finds thier account hacked and assums their computer has been comprimised but can find no viruses (there-for CCP's fault). Friend A also has thier account hacked and STFU realsing that it was their system thats comprimised. Friend B turns to the forums in an ill conceived attempt to point the finger at CCP and hopfully find some shoulders to cry on from the gaming comunity. am I right?
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.11.14 10:32:00 - [70] Originally by: Taser Monkey But... but... weren't Macs supposed to be 150% safe due to anonymity? OWNED! It is not necessary for any malware to infect a computer in order for a malicious third party to hack your account. Originally by: Taser Monkey 1. Download VMWare. 2. Run a light, easy to install Linux distro and surf all the **** you want. 3. Get pwnd by some vulnerability in VMWare that allows malicious code in the guest to infect the host (no, not that one, but the next one that appears as a result of exploiting core-level debugging instructions) 4. Eat humble pie Other things to do in order to make your computer safer: Remove the Adobe Flash web browser plugin Remove Adobe Acrobat Reader Make your day-to-day account a "limited" or "unprivileged" user - don't even give your account the ability to "sudo" to administrator since that can be exploited too. Run an adblocker - if you're on Mac OS X you can use OmniWeb which has adblocking built in, for example Turn off Java in your browser Crowing about someone else's mistakes and blaming the victim will only make your slice of humble pie bigger and less tasty, when it inevitably gets served to you. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]

Infinity Ziona Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.14 11:40:00 - [71] If you don't have multiple antivirus / anti-spyware on your computer your not doing it right. Spybot 3d, Malwarebytes and a decent antivirus is essential. First two detect infections of malware / spyware however occasionally one will pickup something the other doesnt. One will sometimes be able to clean something the other can't. Even so a computer virus can still get onto your computer, without your permission, and without you doing anything stupid. New viruses, new trojans, new worms, new methods of infection, your family, a vulnerability in a new program or update. Sitting there laughing like idiots and calling someone who gets a virus / trojan an idiot makes you look stupid. There is a reason there is a multibillion dollar industry relating to malicious software. Not even the department of defense in the US, which is arguably the most secure system in the world could prevent hacking / infection. There is no 100% protection so don't pretend there is. Sig --- Quote: Originally by Oveur: High security empire space is supposed to be quite safe. ... That's the whole point of high security.
Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.14 12:05:00 - [72] Originally by: Infinity Ziona There is no 100% protection so don't pretend there is. Actyally there is, for example Windows is very secure when its sitting in installation disk. Unfortunetly process of installing it renders that 100% security to lower level, same way your new car loses value when you drive it out of car dealers yard. Ok serious note, 100% security dosent exist becouse system that is 100% secure is system you cant do anything with.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.11.14 12:50:00 - [73] Originally by: Infinity Ziona If you don't have multiple antivirus / anti-spyware on your computer your not doing it right. Spybot 3d, Malwarebytes and a decent antivirus is essential. From my experience as tech support for an ISP, tech support for my extended family, and tech support in various sized corporations, I'll just suggest that anti-virus/anti-spyware causes more problems than it solves. Anti-malware software is often written in a hurry, interferes with critical Windows APIs, and returns false positives on everything from developer tools to complex Excel spreadsheets. Quote: There is no 100% protection so don't pretend there is. There is also no excuse for thinking that one is "highly skilled at avoiding malware" when one is, in fact, merely "very lucky." I've been very lucky to date, but I believe I have made my own luck by turning off browser plugins, using different account names for every site, and not sharing my login details with anyone. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Taser Monkey Against All Asteroids	Posted - 2010.11.14 13:09:00 - [74] Originally by: Mara Rinn 3. Get pwnd by some vulnerability in VMWare that allows malicious code in the guest to infect the host (no, not that one, but the next one that appears as a result of exploiting core-level debugging instructions) Quote: Date: 9 Feb. 2007 I never said VMWare was 100% safe. This is why I'm sitting behing AVG, Firewall, Spybot and SuperAntiSpyware. But you're right, I don't have four AV's installed... imagine what could get through! ** **!! I'm off to install another three. You guys said AVG, Kaspersky and Norton go well together, right?
Brennivargur	Posted - 2010.11.14 13:47:00 - [75] Originally by: Cyber Blue Mr Epeen Brennivargur and others look I know a lot about computers and I think everyone needs antivirus because the companies say so no a-v, no firewall, no 'process scanner', no anti-malware or anti-**tery anything. passive protection is up to the max. all i need. never been hacked. ever. please, be the first one to succeed. come at me bro. Originally by:** CCP Zymurgist I have facial hair how can I help?
Dave Daze Minmatar Thor's Spite	Posted - 2010.11.14 14:58:00 - [76] Originally by: Brennivargur Originally by: Cyber Blue Mr Epeen Brennivargur and others look I know a lot about computers and I think everyone needs antivirus because the companies say so no a-v, no firewall, no 'process scanner', no anti-malware or anti-***tery anything. passive protection is up to the max. all i need. never been hacked. ever. please, be the first one to succeed. come at me bro. sure give me a public IP and i'll root yer comp right from under you. mac , nix, Doze it doesnt mather all have holes. Also talking big on forums isnt cool.
Niveon	Posted - 2010.11.14 15:51:00 - [77] Originally by: Dave Daze talking big on forums isnt cool
Grez Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.14 16:42:00 - [78] Your passwords are usually retrieved by hacking community websites. This is the #1 source of data for hackers. Always, always use a different password when signing up to other websites. ---
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.14 17:37:00 - [79] Originally by: AdamiaMaxima IVE had my account hacked about 24hrs ago and my friend's account got hacked today. is ccp doin anything about this or is a fkin hacking spree gonna be let pass by like nothing happened? Stop sharing passwords.
Ariel Dawn Perkone	Posted - 2010.11.14 21:21:00 - [80] It's pretty sad some of the responses in this thread; you could take every precaution, never click malicious links, change your password daily, etc, and still get your account stolen. You go to make a post on EVE Online, Scrapheap Challenge, Battleclinic, etc, and temporarily allow scripts from that site only to let you use the forum tools, and bam, you've just lost your account. The only surefire way to be 100% safe is to run EVE on a computer that only runs EVE and nothing else, not even a browser. People don't understand how quickly an account can be stolen from someone who thinks they're safe and act all smug to others who have had it happen to them. Also WTB Authenticators for EVE!

Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.14 22:15:00 - [81] Quote: It's pretty sad some of the responses in this thread; you could take every precaution, never click malicious links, change your password daily, etc, and still get your account stolen. On a long enough timeline all outcomes are true according to string theory. However in the world I live in your statement is simply untrue.
The Internets	Posted - 2010.11.14 22:40:00 - [82] Originally by: Cipher Jones Quote: It's pretty sad some of the responses in this thread; you could take every precaution, never click malicious links, change your password daily, etc, and still get your account stolen. On a long enough timeline all outcomes are true according to string theory. However in the world I live in your statement is simply untrue. I suggest you do some research then, you'll be surprised. An average person using Firefox and MSE is not particularly challenging for malicious parties to hijack at all with just general tools that they use. You could be a perfect angel and never have once in your life clicked on a bad link and still lose your account as long as you visit websites on the internet.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.14 22:47:00 - [83] Originally by: The Internets Originally by: Cipher Jones Quote: It's pretty sad some of the responses in this thread; you could take every precaution, never click malicious links, change your password daily, etc, and still get your account stolen. On a long enough timeline all outcomes are true according to string theory. However in the world I live in your statement is simply untrue. I suggest you do some research then, you'll be surprised. An average person using Firefox and MSE is not particularly challenging for malicious parties to hijack at all with just general tools that they use. You could be a perfect angel and never have once in your life clicked on a bad link and still lose your account as long as you visit websites on the internet. QFT. Also unless you live in a social vacuum, anyone who uses your computer could help you lose your account with a simple missclick. Sig --- Quote: Originally by Oveur: High security empire space is supposed to be quite safe. ... That's the whole point of high security.
Legs Mackenzie	Posted - 2010.11.15 00:36:00 - [84] I couldn't be bothered to read past page one, but I was always taught (if that is the right term) that running more than one antivirus program is worse than running none. They interfer with each other something dreadful Unless of course OP is running AntiVirus2010 or whatever the hell that scamware is called. Then it should be alright.
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.15 01:07:00 - [85] Do you know anything about hackers?
True Sight THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.15 01:19:00 - [86] Here's some great advice I read on a RMT guys website the other week in regards to one of the many methods used to steal MMO players account: Actually 'hacking' a game doesn't happen, plus trying to maliciously hack some companies servers etc are 'real illegal' (in comparison to all the people that think your account getting logged onto is illegal, or that gold sellers are illegal, they aren't). What they often do is hack into fansites webservers, grab user login details from there. They stated that quite a lot of accounts they gain access too is through this, because most people use the same password for said website logins as for their email/game accounts, so they get your email/username and password, then try it in the various games they RMT in. Now picture this on a huge scale of tens of thousands of accounts, technically costs nothing, they get 50 hits, thats 50 accounts, yay for them. Also, whilst most players out there say 'hack' the more appropriate term is 'compromised' as no one really 'hacks' into your account, or eve's servers of whatever, they compromise your account by obtaining your username/password somehow. which ultimately is your responsibility and outside of CCPs control. -------------------------------------- True Sight President Foiritan Emissary --<<!SUPPORT DRONES!>>--
Mehrune Khan Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.15 01:24:00 - [87] To the OP: if you have more than one antivirus with resident protection, they will conflict with each other. Antivirus with resident protection are constantly running processes that monitor your system and they always want the highest priority. If another AV is trying to run resident protection at the same time, they assume that the other is malware and will either cause errors or they will just become completely useless, or both. There are a few companies that offer "Internet Security" packages that offer an AV + resident protection + firewall in a single package, a free one is COMODO. Get one of those and Spybot. This will give you an anti-malware and anti-spyware. Make sure to run the immunize feature in Spybot, it helps to keep stuff from trying to hijack your browser. Also, go to your start menu and click "run". Type "msconfig" into the command line and look at your services and startup tabs. Turn off anything from an unknown publisher. You can check to see if your startup processes are legitimate programs at sysinfo.org I hope this helps.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.11.15 01:48:00 - [88] 3 Programs every Windows computer should have: 1. Malwarebytes 2. Clamwin (AVG/Avast have become way too bloated) 3. AdBlock plugin for firefox.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.11.15 03:55:00 - [89] An example of the type of attack which some people actually fall for is the current spate of "Action Required: Upgrade your Adobe PDF Reader" phishing mail. I've received three in the last couple of hours. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]


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