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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 21:58:00 -
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Proud to be an American!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
I understand why small, weak and insignificant countries have to exert what little control they have.
Please read rule #7 before you post.
I expect CCP to enforce that rule alsoà
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar
Guerrilla Flotilla
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
I understand why small, weak and insignificant countries have to exert what little control they have.
Please read rule #7 before you post.
I expect CCP to enforce that rule alsoà
what?
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Ren Nekk
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:01:00 -
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weee!
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:03:00 -
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Rpeg
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:03:00 -
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Wha?
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autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:04:00 -
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Freedom is a privilage not a Birthright.
And its so easily taken away if abused.
Ever wonder why so many people are in jail for something they though they where free to do? why? because it voilates another person's freedom rather directly, like the right to live or own a car or the sort or the right to live in peace.
I mean if you run into a crowded theater and shout fire and pull the fire alarm they are going to arrest you and declaring freedom of speech is not going to save you in court at all.
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Shiro Kotaki
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:04:00 -
[7]
How very good for you :)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:05:00 -
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You do realise that freedom of speech has nothing to do with these forums, right?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Zagdul
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:05:00 -
[9]
INB4OOPE/LOCK
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Mar Lee
An Army of None
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:06:00 -
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I did read Rule #7. It tells me this thread is going to be locked shortly.
Or moved to OOPE.
And then locked.
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:09:00 -
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In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
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Troll Bridgington
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Troll Bridgington on 13/11/2010 22:12:19
Yeeeeeeeeehawwwww!!!! Lets go burn some crayons and eat cheeseburgers!!!! We don't need no stinkin socialism shoved down our throats by them damn liberal natzies! BECK/PALIN 2012! CCP FUNDS TERRORISM!
*The above should not be taken seriously in anyway. I would never eat cheeseburgers while burning crayons. The fumes would make me nauseous.*
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Dagny Bronstein on 13/11/2010 22:11:54
you have the wrong list of rules, bro.
If I'd tell you about the right one I'd have to violate rules #1 & #2, though, and that wouldn't be good. 
/me senses incoming rule #9
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IIIAsharakIII
Hostile Takeover.
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
Enjoy it while it lasts!
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Cpt Constantinus
Corp 54
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:17:00 -
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5/10
Not a bad attempt at trolling, but ultimately fails to amaze.
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Lily Fair
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:17:00 -
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So basicly, you are making a statement,
that is intended as a blatant troll,
mentioning the specific forum rule against trolling to discourage trolling,
while wishing for it,
most likely to test out how the community will retaliate and will CCP allow an obvious troll if you mask your thread as a neutral statement and back it up with their own rules.
IB Locked for no content.
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Reptail
Caldari
Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:18:00 -
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eve is dying?
o8h ertg dgd gdghrdfs |
Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:20:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Dagny Bronstein
Edited by: Dagny Bronstein on 13/11/2010 22:11:54
you have the wrong list of rules, bro.
If I'd tell you about the right one I'd have to violate rules #1 & #2, though, and that wouldn't be good.
/me senses incoming rule #9
ROFLMAO!!!
Do you really think that I donÆt know which rules apply?
LetÆs not forget that I have to "pay" to have an opinion here :-)
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Reptail
Caldari
Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:21:00 -
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Yup Eve is dying :)
o8h ertg dgd gdghrdfs |
mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Troll Bridgington
Edited by: Troll Bridgington on 13/11/2010 22:12:19
Yeeeeeeeeehawwwww!!!! Lets go burn some crayons and eat cheeseburgers!!!! We don't need no stinkin socialism shoved down our throats by them damn liberal natzies! BECK/PALIN 2012! CCP FUNDS TERRORISM!
*The above should not be taken seriously in anyway. I would never eat cheeseburgers while burning crayons. The fumes would make me nauseous.*
Now, what is scary about that statement is how many people would think you are serious, and agree with it.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:22:00 -
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IBTL
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:27:00 -
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I feel sorry for all the decent american folk.
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Dagny Bronstein
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Krandona
ROFLMAO!!!
Do you really think that I donÆt know which rules apply?
LetÆs not forget that I have to "pay" to have an opinion here :-)
whooosh?
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Ballsack
I feel sorry for all the decent american folk.
So youÆre saying that IÆm not a, ôdecent Americanö?
With a name like that I can only imagine how much impact your opinion hasà
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:30:00 -
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Since this has to do with your citizen ship more than EVE I'm moving it from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
Zymurgist
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:30:00 -
[26]
I, too, enjoy bbq chicken wings
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Since this has to do with your citizen ship more than EVE I'm moving it from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
Citizenship is one word.
Have you only been playing Eve since 2009.06.01 or is that just the day you joined CCP?
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Reptail
Caldari
Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Reptail on 13/11/2010 22:35:45
Originally by: Krandona
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Since this has to do with your citizen ship more than EVE I'm moving it from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
Citizenship is one word.
Have you only been playing Eve since 2009.06.01 or is that just the day you joined CCP?
big war going on here
edit i'll still read until my bottle of vine ends :)
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Bella Yar
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:42:00 -
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I agree, nerf the drake.
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:42:00 -
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CCP is awesome and never makes mistakes!!!
I love all the employees of CCP as they are only here to serve us and help us during our times of need.
Thank you CCP for looking out for us :-)
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Reptail
Caldari
Cool Rampage Amongst Zeus 1
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Reptail on 13/11/2010 22:47:17
also caracal need one more low slot.
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Baneken
Gallente
School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Bella Yar
I agree, nerf the drake.
While your at it buff hybrids.
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:53:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
I feel sorry for all the decent american folk.
You don't know what you are talking about.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:54:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Krandona
In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
You do realise that this still doesn't have anything to do with these forums, right?
Also, being a proud American and well-educated in civics, you do understand why this is the case, I hope?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 22:58:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Krandona
In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
You do realise that this still doesn't have anything to do with these forums, right?
Also, being a proud American and well-educated in civics, you do understand why this is the case, I hope?
I can neither confirm nor denyà
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Krandona
I can neither confirm nor denyà
Ok. As long as we're clear about that one. Spam along with the OT stuff.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Warsmiths
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:13:00 -
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You also have the right to bear arms but try holding that up when you walk into a government building.
Private institutions also have the right to put out certain guidelines for others to follow, things like no shoes, no shirt, no service; or they may require you to go as far as wearing a tie. Failure to follow these simple rules would allow the business to not give you service. This institution has posted a set of rules for us to follow. Now looking at your history I see a post that contained no real content, and they have posted that non constructive posts shall be removed. You then made a thread discussing moderation, and they have a rule that states not to talk about moderation. I could even see this thread turning into a nation bashing contest, especially with the blatant OP troll, which will eventually lead to its lock.
You may think that you are being witty but the key point to remember here is that if you walk into somebodies house then you are their guest and you will abide by their rules as they would abide by yours when they come visit you.
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Betty Boom
Caldari
SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Krandona
In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
You do realise that this still doesn't have anything to do with these forums, right?
Also, being a proud American and well-educated in civics, you do understand why this is the case, I hope?
No - he doesnt understand that the 'right of speech' has nothing to do with the 'ownership of the media' he wanna 'broadcast' his opinion.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:16:00 -
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'Land of the free', with one out of 100 people imprisoned.
My Warmest Regards.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:38:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
I bet if you go to fanfest, you pin a Canadian flag to your jacket.
Mr Epeen 
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ZenZorZar
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Krandona
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Since this has to do with your citizen ship more than EVE I'm moving it from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
Citizenship is one word.
*stuff*
playing that card are we ? *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:48:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
I bet if you go to fanfest, you pin a Canadian flag to your jacket.
Mr Epeen
The prodigal son returns!!!
I will only wear my United States Army Veteran Pin.
Now, go wash your mouth out!!!
(Sad about Sharton)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.13 23:54:00 -
[43]
Originally by: ZenZorZar
playing that card are we ? *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
àbut to be fair, Eliot isn't exactly pleasing to the eye. 
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
ZenZorZar
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:00:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: ZenZorZar
playing that card are we ? *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
àbut to be fair, Eliot isn't exactly pleasing to the eye.
no surely not, but it just seams so "nail on the head" like hearing this when seeing ppl like the OP doing their grammer **** stuff in public forums =)
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Krandona
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:07:00 -
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This has given me a new perspective.
Thanks
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
'Land of the free', with one out of 100 people imprisoned.
got to have somewhere for all the coloured folk to go after they all got onto this emancipation idea
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: ZenZorZar
Originally by: Krandona
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Since this has to do with your citizen ship more than EVE I'm moving it from General Discussion to Out of Pod Experience.
Citizenship is one word.
*stuff*
playing that card are we ? *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
Yes, and you're completely missing the point Fry is making. INVENTING new words or phrases makes language interesting and exciting. Using language in an improper way simply out of laziness or ignorance is a completely different and altogether intolerable issue, one which even he admits at 5:00. "It's the implication of NOT CARING that underlies it."
"Citizenship" means being a citizen of a country. "Citizen Ship" sounds like some ridiculous indie film.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Warsmiths
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:53:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 14/11/2010 00:57:03
Originally by: ZenZorZar
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: ZenZorZar
playing that card are we ? *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY
àbut to be fair, Eliot isn't exactly pleasing to the eye.
no surely not, but it just seams so "nail on the head" like hearing this when seeing ppl like the OP doing their grammer **** stuff in public forums =)
*seems
*Grammar
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SpindleDemon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 00:54:00 -
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Your mum did drop you in a big pot of troll stew when you were little, didn't she? Did you bang your head at the bottom?
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2010.11.14 01:22:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Krandona
Edited by: Krandona on 13/11/2010 22:23:03
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
before you go boasting about freedom of speech i suggest you try exercising it. go stand in front of a sports stadium that's letting out and try chanting "the usa sucks". might want to start a pool though beforehand to help offset the hospital bills.
you might also consider googling that british motoring tv show and manlove. should lead you at an absolutely interesting clip of the british hosts attempting to exercise free speech and the resultant hail of rocks and abuse from the local rednecks.
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Sazkyen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.14 01:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Krandona
Edited by: Krandona on 13/11/2010 22:23:03
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
I understand why small, weak and insignificant countries have to exert what little control they have.
Please read rule #7 before you post.
I expect CCP to enforce that rule alsoà
*obvious edit
Unfortunatley for you, and fortunately for us, your country's alleged power is not yours personally. You are but a tax paying sheep who helps the big fish feed more. You are but a bottomfeeder my friend, unless you are a billionaire ofc in which case what the HECK are you doing here? 
Also: an obvious attempt to provoke others, especially the mods. Martyrdom ftw.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:05:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
Are you proud of your skin colour too ? How about your ear shape, or eye colour ? Maybe proud of your pube hair texture ?
What exactly makes you so proud to be an American ? You had absolutely ZERO contribution in becoming one in the first place.
That is, unless you are a naturalized immigrant. ARE you a naturalized immigrant ? Then yeah, you have a reason to be proud you're a citizen of the USA.
Otherwise you're just Random Joe Nobody beating his chest about something he imagines having done that deserves any recognition whatsoever.
Originally by: Krandona
In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
Any limitations IMPOSED BY THE GOVERNMENT on communication over the Internet are unconstitutional.
It's a subtle yet very important distinction.
This means that anybody that's not a government employee and/or not acting on behalf of the government HAS the right to shut you up wherever he has the power to shut you up whenever he wants to for whatever reason, and it's perfectly constitutional.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:15:00 -
[53]
Edited by: ceaon on 14/11/2010 02:17:54
Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American
how can you be proud of something you dint make ? i mean to get the citizenship you only had to stay alive and pretty much that depend on the doctor no you the baby.
edit: my bad dint see Akita's post, he put this thing much better that i do
Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:18:00 -
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I tried to find a pic of someone beating a dead horse, but all the pics I found were a bit too disturbing for me to be willing to post them (figures).
I guess I'm proud to also be an American, though it's not so important to me. What I really ****ing want is for people to stop criticizing, verbally abusing, and trying to kill me for things that our government does and that I have absolutely not a god damn thing to do with. I always come across images, texts, or people saying horrible things about Americans like we're all evil and we're all idiots. Oh well, I guess the most powerful will always be the most targeted for such.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:25:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Krandona
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
Good for you.
I'm proud because I'm not American, for example. In my country we don't have Freedom of Speech... that's true.... However, we have another thing called "Anarchy" - where everyone can say and do whatever they think of and no one gives a flying f*** about it. You only get caught if you are into something that you can be criminally charged for. Otherwise, who cares. 
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:33:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Akita T on 14/11/2010 02:34:00
Originally by: Selinate
What I really friggin' want is for people to stop criticizing, verbally abusing, and trying to kill me for things that our government does and that I have absolutely not a god damn thing to do with.
You see, there's this thing allegedly called "democracy" which people from the USA generally sort of care about, something which they say they practice and apparently try to shove everybody else's throat, some system of government in which the actions of their leadership are supposed to somehow reflect "the will of the people" to some degree, a degree which is supposedly at least a bit above random choice.
So why are you so surprised if people from outside the USA hold the citizens of the USA responsible for their government's actions ?!?
At least if you guys were headed by a dictator, you'd have a pretty damn good excuse.
Oh, wait, some other people WERE headed by a dictator, and you sort of declared war on them and killed quite a few of those that really had little choice but to comply with something they might have not even agreed with.
Hmm, I guess killing them was somehow LESS offensive than blaming one of you guys for the choices of your leadership...
...hmm...
...explain to me again, how exactly does that work ? I seem to have reached a logical dead end. Care to give a logical hand out of it ?
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 14/11/2010 02:42:51
Originally by: Akita T
Oh, wait, some other people WERE headed by a dictator, and you sort of declared war on them and killed quite a few of those that really had little choice but to comply with something they might have not even agreed with.
Sadly, I've experienced this. Being in war with NATO because of a dictatorship which we all hated and wanted/tried to take down isn't a pleasant experience at all Ironically enough, the operation was called "Merciful Angel"
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:44:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Selinate on 14/11/2010 02:45:16
Originally by: Akita T
You see, there's this thing allegedly called "democracy" which people from the USA generally sort of care about, something which they say they practice and apparently try to shove everybody else's throat, some system of government in which the actions of their leadership are supposed to somehow reflect "the will of the people" to some degree, a degree which is supposedly at least a bit above random choice.
So why are you so surprised if people from outside the USA hold the citizens of the USA responsible for their government's actions ?!?
At least if you guys were headed by a dictator, you'd have a pretty damn good excuse.
Oh, wait, some other people WERE headed by a dictator, and you sort of declared war on them and killed quite a few of those that really had little choice but to comply with something they might have not even agreed with.
Hmm, I guess killing them was somehow LESS offensive than blaming one of you guys for the choices of your leadership...
...hmm...
...explain to me again, how exactly does that work ? I seem to have reached a logical dead end. Care to give a logical hand out of it ?
You're an idiot who has no idea of what you're talking about. The United States is NOT a pure democracy, first of all. It's an indirect democracy. We elect officials to make the decisions on our behalf. However...
Sure, we elect officials who make decisions, but it's nearly always extremely close to a 50-50 vote. That means a very sizable portion of us do not agree with what the government is doing, or just want no part of it at all. On top of that, politicians lie. Anyone with intelligence knows this, and this is why they say one thing when we're electing them and do something different when they actually get into office, and then there's not much we can do. As for the Iraq war, just like you (obviously), I don't know all the details of what happened in Iraq. I honestly care not to, either, at this point. I, like most Americans towards the end of Bush's office and at the beginning of the war, did not support the war. However, like most (intelligent) people, I also understood that, once Bush sent the troops, we couldn't exactly just pull out of Iraq without horrible consequences for their people.
So please, stop talking. Or, you could just keep wasting your breath and show your idiocy for everyone else. Either way, it won't bother me.
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
I tried to find a pic of someone beating a dead horse, but all the pics I found were a bit too disturbing for me to be willing to post them (figures).
I guess I'm proud to also be an American, though it's not so important to me. What I really ****ing want is for people to stop criticizing, verbally abusing, and trying to kill me for things that our government does and that I have absolutely not a god damn thing to do with. I always come across images, texts, or people saying horrible things about Americans like we're all evil and we're all idiots. Oh well, I guess the most powerful will always be the most targeted for such.
freedom of speach yo~~
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:46:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Selinate
I tried to find a pic of someone beating a dead horse, but all the pics I found were a bit too disturbing for me to be willing to post them (figures).
I guess I'm proud to also be an American, though it's not so important to me. What I really ****ing want is for people to stop criticizing, verbally abusing, and trying to kill me for things that our government does and that I have absolutely not a god damn thing to do with. I always come across images, texts, or people saying horrible things about Americans like we're all evil and we're all idiots. Oh well, I guess the most powerful will always be the most targeted for such.
if you truly believe in democracy you should understand that you are some how responsibly of the action of you gov, by doing or no doing you something you made a choice each time you make a choice there will be someone blaming you for your choice
Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: CharmingButIrrational
freedom of speach yo~~
Freedom of speech doesn't quite cover bullets and verbal threats....
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
The United States is NOT a pure democracy, first of all.
you have some choices if you dont like that current status
work to change it
live whit that
go away from the USA
suicide
Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:50:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Akita T on 14/11/2010 02:53:08
Originally by: Selinate
You're an idiot who has no idea of what you're talking about.
Notice how your "explanations" don't conflict with my "allegations" ? No ? Then reread the manner in which they were stated.
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they say one thing when we're electing them and do something different when they actually get into office, and then there's not much we can do
Yeah, you CAN do something about it.
But you're too complacent and content in your comfortable little isolated four walls to care enough to do it.
I'm not saying I would do more if I was in your position... but at least I'm not offended when I'm criticized.
MY country is in the dumps. I *KNOW* our politicians are corrupted to the bone. I *KNOW* my countrymen have the political attention span of an ADHD kid in a sugar rush nowadays. But I don't really give much of a damn anymore, and couldn't care less if somebody calls us... well... almost anything. Because I know it's mostly true.
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As for the Iraq war
Funny you should mention just the latest in a long series of wars that would fit the exact same description.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:51:00 -
[64]
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Selinate
The United States is NOT a pure democracy, first of all.
you have some choices if you dont like that current status
work to change it
live whit that
go away from the USA
suicide
Spoken like someone who truly understands the topic at hand...
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:53:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Selinate on 14/11/2010 02:53:26
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Selinate
You're an idiot who has no idea of what you're talking about.
Notice how your "explanations" don't conflict with my "allegations" ? No ? Then reread the manner in which they were stated.
Oh, yes they do. In fact they clearly do. You are an idiot.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:54:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Selinate
Oh, yes they do. In fact they clearly do. You are an idiot.
Oh, no, they don't. They clearly don't. You obviously lack the mental fortitude to make the necessary distinctions.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:56:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Selinate
Oh, yes they do. In fact they clearly do. You are an idiot.
Oh, no, they don't. They clearly don't. You obviously lack the mental fortitude to make the necessary distinctions.
Ok. You can keep that attitude towards it. It makes no matter, whatsoever, and just shows your lack of any intellectual ability at all.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 02:58:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: Selinate
The United States is NOT a pure democracy, first of all.
you have some choices if you dont like that current status
work to change it
live whit that
go away from the USA
suicide
Spoken like someone who truly understands the topic at hand...
because i dint like the status my country had (romania) i leaved at soon i get my passport and finished my school
Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:01:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Selinate
Stuff
The states are the number one whipping boy because you provide such beautiful ammo, you don't seem to be able to hand it out fast enough. Blame your media for the amplification of Americas image, it's bloody hilarious.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:02:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Selinate
Ok. You can keep that attitude towards it. It makes no matter, whatsoever, and just shows your lack of any intellectual ability at all.
Let's put it in simpler terms, maybe you'll understand.
Representative democracy (that's what it's called, not "indirect democracy") is still a form of democracy. In fact, you should be called a "Republic". Or better still, "The United Confederation of North American Republics". But I digress again.
It's _some_ form of democracy, and the main reason of having a democracy instead of a monarchy or dictatorship is so that "the people" are more accurately represented in the political decision-making process.
And like the comic books say, "with great power comes great responsibility".
Or in your case, "with a tiny bit of distributed power comes a little bit of distributed responsibility".
So, when people complain about the USA, they can't help but complain a little bit against every last one of you.
If you want to be absolved of any responsibility, you'd have to also be ready to relinquish all power. Switch your government to a monarchy or a dictatorship and we'll TOTALLY shut up about the individuals.
Seriously.
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:05:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Selinate
Freedom of speech doesn't quite cover bullets and verbal threats....
Seems to be a good reason for you country to go to war, no?
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:10:00 -
[72]
Yep... a bunch of Europeans *****ing. Akita, twisting ideas to support her idiotic ideals, and a bunch of others who just like to ***** about Americans like we're all bad guys. Typical.
What a bunch of worthless idiots you all are. None of you are any better than any racist against African Americans in the U.S., or even any anti-Muslim in the EU. Again. Typical.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:15:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Akita T on 14/11/2010 03:17:09
So calling attention to the fact that by having the power to elect people in charge you are also partially responsible for their actions IS RACIST (or, more accurately, "no better than racism") ?
Ok, now I've heard everything.
So, pray tell, WHO EXACTLY is responsible for a government's actions ? JUST the people in power, and maybe just a few of the people in power ? Or maybe not even them, but those that provide not quite accurate intel ?
Are you sure it's not the least bit also the people that fail to stop them from doing the wrong thing even if they theoretically could by still following the law to the letter ?
Or maybe somehow magically NOBODY is even the littlest bit responsible ? Nobody, at all, not even a teeny tiny bit ?
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:22:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Selinate
Yep... a bunch of Europeans *****ing. Akita, twisting ideas to support her idiotic ideals, and a bunch of others who just like to ***** about Americans like we're all bad guys. Typical.
What a bunch of worthless idiots you all are. None of you are any better than any racist against African Americans in the U.S., or even any anti-Muslim in the EU. Again. Typical.
that was just childish
Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Warsmiths
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:30:00 -
[75]
Originally by: ceaon
that was just childish
Fits right in with the general forum population then.
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Lily Fair
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:37:00 -
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Akita I like your style.
It nevet gets old how you beat the living crap outta clueless people with nothing but their biased opinions with facts and information.
When it takes the form of shoving facts down the throats of self glamouring americants, it's just a whole new level of awesome.
Keep up the good work.
Also for all of you sorry folks who end up going against Akita, Imma just gonna say that if you're not ready to do the information digging and fact posting, you really shouldn't get started. Akita has earned respect, you are just bad attempts of a troll.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:58:00 -
[77]
Why's everyone so ****ed? This thread was obviously troll bait.
Here's the short, short version.
The US is a republic. It elects people to public office to represent citizens JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC NATION ON THE PLANET. That's all it is. There is no more freedom in the US than any other western nation, and if you believe there is then you've obviously never been outside the US.
That's it. /thread
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Marz Ghola
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:50:00 -
[78]
BRING BACK TEH REPUBLIC!
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Kalasano Kamo
Caldari
World of EVEcraft
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:52:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Lily Fair
Akita I like your style.
It nevet gets old how you beat the living crap outta clueless people with nothing but their biased opinions with facts and information.
When it takes the form of shoving facts down the throats of self glamouring americants, it's just a whole new level of awesome.
Keep up the good work.
Also for all of you sorry folks who end up going against Akita, Imma just gonna say that if you're not ready to do the information digging and fact posting, you really shouldn't get started. Akita has earned respect, you are just bad attempts of a troll.
Akita alt spotted
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:58:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Kalasano Kamo
Akita alt spotted
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:58:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Krandona
Edited by: Krandona on 13/11/2010 22:23:03
Proud to be an American Playing Eve!
I apologize to all those that are easily offended. ItÆs easy to forget that not all countries have Freedom of Speech.
I understand why small, weak and insignificant countries have to exert what little control they have.
Please read rule #7 before you post.
I expect CCP to enforce that rule alsoà
*obvious edit
You are not an American. You are a troll. And even if you physically reside within the U.S., you are a bigoted U.S. hating troll trying to make your own trash.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.11.14 15:35:00 -
[82]
This thread has turned into spam and trolling, going to lock it up.
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