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Tassandria1
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Posted - 2010.11.18 12:33:00 -
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Hi,
Some time ago I bought a considerable number of 425mm Prototype Gauss, the meta 4 version of the large hybrid gun.
Anyways, the time I bought them they were 12m each, and had very good margins transporting them to another region. Although it seems that someone, almost instantly, did a big market manipulation and the prices dropped, within a few hours, to half value, and then now they are only worth 2m each.
So the situation is, that I'm sitting with items that have dropped massively in value.
Is it likely that I will see my isk back? :P
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Herman Klaus
Caldari
Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.18 12:35:00 -
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No. The drop rates changed on them. Plus they were being manipulated when they were 12m.
Sorry dude you've been stung by a crash. Sell up and get investing eslewhere.
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Tassandria1
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Posted - 2010.11.18 12:48:00 -
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Thats good to know.. Or something.. :>
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Herman Klaus
Caldari
Touched By Klaus
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Posted - 2010.11.18 13:14:00 -
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see how much reprocessing would make before just selling them. You might be surprised.
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Ann Can
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Posted - 2010.11.18 16:03:00 -
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Also consider with the Noctis, there will likely be more supply of loot unless the loot tables are changed. With the Noctis, I think we can expect some min prices to rise, but then fall. The rise on the demand for the new loot ship, and the fall because loot being collected faster.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2010.11.18 18:43:00 -
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On the other side, pilots doing Incursion sites instead of missions will not get loot or salvage, the incursion ships will drop little. So that will reduce the supply of loot and salvage.
It will be interesting to see which effect is larger: Noctis causing more salvaging, Incursion causing less....
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.18 23:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Vincent Athena
Incursion vrs Noctis effect
That's a good point. But I'm going to bet on the Noctis unless the Incursion reward system is changed.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.19 00:36:00 -
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Something else to think about: CCP has promised "Meta-item indicator icons" in the first part of the Incursion release at the end of this month, according to the dev blog. This could mean that it'll be easier for people to pick out and set aside their meta-4 items to sell for profit.
That means fewer people will be (a) selling every item, and (b) reprocessing every item. Instead, they'll be selling meta-4 stuff and possibly reprocessing the rest. As a result, you may find that there are more meta-4 items on the market at lower prices. (And perhaps more meta-3 items trading at higher prices?)
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.19 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Something else to think about: CCP has promised "Meta-item indicator icons" in the first part of the Incursion release at the end of this month, according to the dev blog. This could mean that it'll be easier for people to pick out and set aside their meta-4 items to sell for profit.
The only Meta item icons I have seen on Sisi are green, and they are faction items. Maybe there is a purple for Officer, but then again maybe I dreamt that there were purple ones ... been playing too much the past few days I guess
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:50:00 -
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Hello trader.
Im 0sec belt ratter.
And yes - droprates changes signifficantly. Alongside with meta 4 rail there is signifficant droprate of large solace remote bulkware repair... it went down from ~10M to 4M very fast. 
I.
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El Liptonez
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.11.19 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: AstarothPrime
Hello trader.
Im 0sec belt ratter.
And yes - droprates changes signifficantly. Alongside with meta 4 rail there is signifficant droprate of large solace remote bulkware repair... it went down from ~10M to 4M very fast.
I.
I don't see how solace prices crashed, but CCP definitely changed something with the 1600mm plates. They crashed down from 4m to 3m in a quick fashion, while volume traded has even gone up.
Guess I gotta go haul my regional buy orders soon, before that MWD disaster happens on some other item. 
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.11.19 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: El Liptonez
Originally by: AstarothPrime
Hello trader.
Im 0sec belt ratter.
And yes - droprates changes signifficantly. Alongside with meta 4 rail there is signifficant droprate of large solace remote bulkware repair... it went down from ~10M to 4M very fast.
I.
I don't see how solace prices crashed, but CCP definitely changed something with the 1600mm plates. They crashed down from 4m to 3m in a quick fashion, while volume traded has even gone up.
Guess I gotta go haul my regional buy orders soon, before that MWD disaster happens on some other item.
Erm.... Was this serious?
Prices dropped BECAUSE volume went up. More available = more dumped = prices drop. The converse is also usually true; if volume on something goes down, you'll almost certainly see the price go up (or, if you assume demand is growing, if volume stays the same price will go up).
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Berikath
Erm.... Was this serious?
Prices dropped BECAUSE volume went up. More available = more dumped = prices drop. The converse is also usually true; if volume on something goes down, you'll almost certainly see the price go up (or, if you assume demand is growing, if volume stays the same price will go up).
"volume traded has even gone up" just means the number of realized trades (via buy and sell orders) has increased, it doesn't say whether that change is primarily due to supply or demand-side changes.
stop acting silly.
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Duke Ardelis
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.20 11:19:00 -
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I have been trading META 4 for years. Then went inactive. Came back only to see META 4 market crash on some items.
Im still in process of gathering onformation, but corect me if Im wrong - all META 4 items have had their drop rate changed ?
Or did I just come to wrong conclusion ?
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