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HakerElite
Corp 1 Allstars
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.11.19 11:55:00 -
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I am surprised to wake up this morning and find that the new Eve character creation demonstrations have drawn outside attention on popular media websites.
Wimp
Congrats to the Dev team for reaching a milestone for not just Eve, but the industry as a whole 
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Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:13:00 -
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wimp isn't exactly a popular media website....in fact it steals content...
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Dhaul
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:17:00 -
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Wow, I saw the character creator on Kotaku yesterday and thought that was pretty cool. I'm surprised it made wimp.
I guess CCP really did do a good job with the avatar creator
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Aessoroz
wimp isn't exactly a popular media website....in fact it steals content...
Could say the same about every aggregator site.
My Warmest Regards.
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King Cod
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
wimp isn't exactly a popular media website....in fact it steals content...
If you were to look they actually reference every piece with a URL. This is not stealing. Their FAQ also mentions how they will take videos down at the request of owners.
Really, what makes you think this is stealing?
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Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.11.19 14:52:00 -
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I just saw that. Well done CCP.
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Originally by: CCP Explorer
(and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Running missions
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Posted - 2010.11.19 16:23:00 -
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wtf is wimp.
Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny
Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.[/ |
Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2010.11.19 17:28:00 -
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I will tell you it doesn't work as fast as that video, but it's still in the early stages ofc. But wow it's absolutely amazing the customization you have. It really is an amazing program.
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Hesperius
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.11.19 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Running missions
wtf is wimp.
A group of people who spared no expense in making an amazing looking website, taking graphic design to the next level?
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Cletus Majora
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Posted - 2010.11.19 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul
I guess CCP really did do a good job with the avatar creator
Or, a really good job of self-promoting PR. 
In the end, neither of these possibilities means much, as so much effort has gone into the creation of a good-looking avatar that will be totally useless until some possible time in the future.
All things considered, I'd rather have the old avatar and a fix or two to long-existing problems within the Eve world as it exists now.
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Rain Valis
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Posted - 2010.11.19 18:51:00 -
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Anyone check out the next video on that site....
Cool! 
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.19 19:07:00 -
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Kotaku had an article about the new CC earlier this week too.
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Faolan Fortune
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Posted - 2010.11.19 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Corporal Punishment08
I will tell you it doesn't work as fast as that video, but it's still in the early stages ofc. But wow it's absolutely amazing the customization you have. It really is an amazing program.
No it really does work that fast, for me at least.
What impresses me most about the creator isn't the customisation, because there's a a few games that have similar customisation. It's the high level of graphical quality that other character creators just can't touch.
I just hope that's the graphics we see in stations. Reason I say that is because the only character creator that even came close to this was the former APB, but the graphics you saw in the editor were higher quality than what you saw in the game 
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.20 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 20/11/2010 00:30:13
Originally by: Faolan Fortune
What impresses me most about the creator isn't the customisation, because there's a a few games that have similar customisation. It's the high level of graphical quality that other character creators just can't touch.
I just hope that's the graphics we see in stations. Reason I say that is because the only character creator that even came close to this was the former APB, but the graphics you saw in the editor were higher quality than what you saw in the game
Well the mere graphics pixel quality isn't the thing that I wonder about the most.
It's what the characters are actually capable of. Are they just looking nice and can play minigames and drink Quafe and look at erotic dancers?
We actually yaven't seen anything in terms of gestures, facial expressions, postures. Will our characters be expressionless walking dolls with some very basic movements or will they really be able to come alive? Will we be able to raise our eyebrows in a meeting? Will our face laugh when we do the "laugh emote" or will we just get a very general "shake" animation with "Jennifer Starling laughs" in the chatbox?
Or will it be so advanced that there will even be lipsync and a wide range of expressions and emotes?
(sorry, I'm still quite inspired by the Clear Skies fanvids)
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.20 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 20/11/2010 23:21:39
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
It's what the characters are actually capable of. Are they just looking nice and can play minigames and drink Quafe and look at erotic dancers?
Given how fluid and sophisticated the animation looked in CCPs earlier APEX demonstration video (it's on their YouTube channel, easy enough to find), I'm guessing the character animation is going to be pretty stellar. My guess is that they'll start of small at launch next year, but adding more complexity down the road shouldn't be too difficult.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.21 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 20/11/2010 23:21:39
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
It's what the characters are actually capable of. Are they just looking nice and can play minigames and drink Quafe and look at erotic dancers?
Given how fluid and sophisticated the animation looked in CCPs earlier APEX demonstration video (it's on their YouTube channel, easy enough to find), I'm guessing the character animation is going to be pretty stellar. My guess is that they'll start of small at launch next year, but adding more complexity down the road shouldn't be too difficult.
I would be very happy if that were the case but I don't think the APEX engine is the same as what's going to be used in Incarna (the WoD engine).
Well we can hope ...
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Deandra Walran
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Posted - 2010.11.21 01:17:00 -
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Given that EVE is a spaceship game, what good are pretty avatars when most of us will be looking at our spaceships 90%+ of the time?
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Antithetos
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Posted - 2010.11.21 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Running missions
wtf is wimp.
A group of people who spared no expense in making an amazing looking website, taking graphic design to the next level?
As a graphic designer, i literally laughed out loud.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.11.21 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Running missions
wtf is wimp.
its like Woof
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.21 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I would be very happy if that were the case but I don't think the APEX engine is the same as what's going to be used in Incarna (the WoD engine).
Well we can hope ...
APEX provides the physics framework for Incarna and WoD, so I do believe that is their intention.
If they pull it off, it'll be glorious. 
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Teinyhr
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.11.21 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Deandra Walran
Given that EVE is a spaceship game, what good are pretty avatars when most of us will be looking at our spaceships 90%+ of the time?
But come Incarna, it won't be a spaceship game anymore. Keep in mind we know very little what functionality Incarna adds to the game other than Second Life in Space (but we've heard of hints of performing "sneaky stuff"), but it's entirely possible that Incarna will become as big part of EVE as flying spaceships is.
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Kolatha
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Meiyang Lee
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I would be very happy if that were the case but I don't think the APEX engine is the same as what's going to be used in Incarna (the WoD engine).
Well we can hope ...
APEX provides the physics framework for Incarna and WoD, so I do believe that is their intention.
If they pull it off, it'll be glorious.
Apex Clothing
Since NVidia are showcasing CCPs work I think you can pretty much put money on Apex Clothing being in Incarna and WoD.
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Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling
We actually yaven't seen anything in terms of gestures, facial expressions, postures. Will our characters be expressionless walking dolls with some very basic movements or will they really be able to come alive? Will we be able to raise our eyebrows in a meeting? Will our face laugh when we do the "laugh emote" or will we just get a very general "shake" animation with "Jennifer Starling laughs" in the chatbox?
Or will it be so advanced that there will even be lipsync and a wide range of expressions and emotes?
(sorry, I'm still quite inspired by the Clear Skies fanvids)
They are supposed to react to other characters based on your standings automaticly as you walk around the station, I can only guess you will be able to make other gestures at your command (fortunately not dancing, I hope no other gesture that can be used out of contest either). What I wonder is how comms will work, both written and voiced, will the game assume write is talking as well? Will we go aroung mute and writing on a keyboard to communicate? Will we be able to hear other people voices as we come close?
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
They are supposed to react to other characters based on your standings automaticly as you walk around the station, I can only guess you will be able to make other gestures at your command (fortunately not dancing, I hope no other gesture that can be used out of contest either).
While I agree that most games have very silly dances I liked the concept in Anarchy Online where you couldn't just do your race/class specific dance but everyone could pick from .. 40 different dances, from jive to waltz to disco. After all, if we have exotic dancers we might have music as well?
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
What I wonder is how comms will work, both written and voiced, will the game assume write is talking as well? Will we go aroung mute and writing on a keyboard to communicate? Will we be able to hear other people voices as we come close?[/justify]
I imagine that each office and bar has its own chat channel, pretty much like you have fleet and corp chat now. If we could also have lip sync .. but that would be too much to ask for I'm araid .. 
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Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
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Posted - 2010.11.21 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 21/11/2010 10:38:27
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
They are supposed to react to other characters based on your standings automaticly as you walk around the station, I can only guess you will be able to make other gestures at your command (fortunately not dancing, I hope no other gesture that can be used out of contest either).
While I agree that most games have very silly dances I liked the concept in Anarchy Online where you couldn't just do your race/class specific dance but everyone could pick from .. 40 different dances, from jive to waltz to disco. Some of those were really cool. After all, if we have exotic dancers we might have music as well?
Nothing wrong if you can dance only in designated areas, could be nice if we could program our own set of face and body gestures through the editor, making body ones restricted to where you can dance, but I fear it could be abused too. Maybe just face gestures. Or dance moves restricted to combination of predefined dancing moves (fit your moves in low/medium/high slot ). Quote:
I imagine that each office and bar has its own chat channel, pretty much like you have fleet and corp chat now. If we could also have lip sync .. but that would be too much to ask for I'm afraid
My question comes as how writting chat will be handled in-game (as in how our character handles it, does he write too or pretend to talk?)
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.21 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Teinyhr
Originally by: Deandra Walran
Given that EVE is a spaceship game, what good are pretty avatars when most of us will be looking at our spaceships 90%+ of the time?
But come Incarna, it won't be a spaceship game anymore. Keep in mind we know very little what functionality Incarna adds to the game other than Second Life in Space (but we've heard of hints of performing "sneaky stuff"), but it's entirely possible that Incarna will become as big part of EVE as flying spaceships is.
Agreed. A sandbox should cater as much options as possible, shooting ships or making money are just a few options in a "space sim". An endless war and an industry that only makes ships to replace the destroyed ones is a bit of a narrow scope if you compare that with all that is possible in a future space.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.21 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 21/11/2010 11:36:35
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
My question comes as how writting chat will be handled in-game (as in how our character handles it, does he write too or pretend to talk?)
Well there's a number of options I think.
1) most probable - you just see the words in the bar/office chat;
2) less likely - you see the words in chat and your character is gesturing;
3) ideally - CCP buys a number of licences of the "speaking" program that translates your words into language and (variety 1) makes your characters lips sync and even (variety 2) offers a number of accents that you want to use (US, UK accents, gender, age).
For my work I once went to an exhibition (is that the correct word?) for medical related software, I was quite impressed with the speech aiding programs available. There's a lot of possibilities available for this kind of things. No idea if CCP really wants to invest into this too much though.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.11.21 11:40:00 -
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The title of that link is dubious perhaps they should have looked at the future that CCP hopefully is working towards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXcYlos8w4
Cause that had stuff that wasn't really seen before.
--Welcome to EVE where 'Commit to Excellence' means trying to squeeze another dime out of the player base.-- |
Taser Monkey
Against All Asteroids
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Posted - 2010.11.21 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kolatha
Apex Clothing
Since NVidia are showcasing CCPs work I think you can pretty much put money on Apex Clothing being in Incarna and WoD.
Now I'm willing to bet they're going to somehow screw AMD owners over by not allowing this to run in hardware but software mode. Not that I care, my CPU is powerful enough and Physix is irrelevant anyway, but it'll be yet another low-handed approach by nVidia.
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Discrodia
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.11.21 12:56:00 -
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Observing that the character they created is basically Picard in terribly bland clothing.
I'm assuming they will add some sort of coloring system as part of the creator, but you can never be sure...
Also if any dev is in this thread, will all the costumes from the previous incarnation of the character creator still be present?
Originally by: anonymous
WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.21 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Taser Monkey
Originally by: Kolatha
Apex Clothing
Since NVidia are showcasing CCPs work I think you can pretty much put money on Apex Clothing being in Incarna and WoD.
Now I'm willing to bet they're going to somehow screw AMD owners over by not allowing this to run in hardware but software mode. Not that I care, my CPU is powerful enough and Physix is irrelevant anyway, but it'll be yet another low-handed approach by nVidia.
Amen. I would much rather have had something powered by Bullet or HAVOX than APEX/Physx. Proprietary software SHOULD be a thing of the past. Locking out vendors is just a crap way of alienating customers.
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Baneken
Gallente
School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.11.21 17:44:00 -
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Speaking of dancing and animation Anarchy Online has/had an exemplar repertoire of various animations your character could make.
Whata incarna should have is the music system that LOTRO uses where you can literally play the instrument your character has or run a premade "key map" for a specific song, the system is incredible if you ask me.
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Napro
Caldari
Simplistic Syndicate
Cha0s Theory
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Posted - 2010.11.21 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Deandra Walran
Given that EVE is a spaceship game, what good are pretty avatars when most of us will be looking at our spaceships 90%+ of the time?
Exactly
Rather than spend that effort on a decent GUI , they spend it on this abomination.
CCP really has their head up their ass. I know their customers are increasing, but I see no reason to recommend this game anymore. My account expires this year and I wont be renewing.
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MSRP
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.21 21:20:00 -
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Yes you will.
Anyways, there's plenty of people who like spaceships but also like pointless eye candy. Yes, both at the same time. Absurd, I know.
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