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Dimitrios Ypsilanti	Posted - 2010.11.21 19:30:00 - [1] Got my work cut out for me. Got a fleet issue tempest sitting 150k off gate in low sec popping ships as they come through. I'd like to kill him. All I've got is an Ishkur and some time. Any ideas about tactics and fits? I'm assuming he'll have a neut in the free high slot. But could I ever break the tank? Assume I'm up against against a heavy neut and have cap boosters, will I be able to keep the scram powered? Some thoughts please.
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.21 19:46:00 - [2] Edited by: The Djego on 21/11/2010 19:47:48 Well you could try your luck getting a BM with a cloaked ship and warp in with a cap booster + nos setup. A arti pest will have in general just a buffer so it isn't to hard to beat, but will require some time in a Ishkur. Kill the drones and all you have to worry are the neuts. However a good tempest pilot will get out(ECM Drones or skill at neuting you to warp out). Good thing to you is that most people using a pest are not this good. Edit: Fixed spelling. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2010.11.21 20:00:00 - [3] Tempest doesn't need to do anything to kill you if it can tank the gate guns which will pop your Ishkur quite fast... http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Dimitrios Ypsilanti	Posted - 2010.11.21 20:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Baneken Tempest doesn't need to do anything to kill you if it can tank the gate guns which will pop your Ishkur quite fast... Allow me to clarify... Tempest is quite blinky red. Plus I've got kill rights.
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2010.11.21 20:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti Originally by: Baneken Tempest doesn't need to do anything to kill you if it can tank the gate guns which will pop your Ishkur quite fast... Allow me to clarify... Tempest is quite blinky red. Plus I've got kill rights. Also Gate guns got 150km range, and if you are sniping you will not do it in sentry range... ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Draahk Chimera Supervillains	Posted - 2010.11.21 20:37:00 - [6] To anyone in a frig fighting a bs. Nos is your friend. A small nos has a much shorter cykle time then a heavy neut. Use an AB and a warp scram to keep your cap usage to a minimum.
SheriffFruitfly Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.21 21:04:00 - [7] Warp up to him, get point, lite cyno, bridge friends in, done. __________________________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Dimitrios Ypsilanti	Posted - 2010.11.21 22:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Draahk Chimera To anyone in a frig fighting a bs. Nos is your friend. A small nos has a much shorter cykle time then a heavy neut. Use an AB and a warp scram to keep your cap usage to a minimum. Thanks, this is exactly what I need to know. 3x Neutron II + Nos 1x Scram + AB II + ? 1x DC II + Whatever else fits 5x Hobgoblins Will post kill mail. His or mine.
ElJo123 Sons Of 0din Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.11.21 22:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti Originally by: Draahk Chimera To anyone in a frig fighting a bs. Nos is your friend. A small nos has a much shorter cykle time then a heavy neut. Use an AB and a warp scram to keep your cap usage to a minimum. Thanks, this is exactly what I need to know. 3x Ion II + Nos 1x Scram + AB II + small cap booster II 1x DC II + 200mm tungsten + eanm II also rigs: acr, small hybrid burst thingy 5x Hobgoblins Will post kill mail. His or mine. Bolded the parts that seem like a good idea maybe perhaps. Cap booster because while a nos should work alright, it's rather tiring to time the cycles right. not to mention that if you mistime once, he's gone (or you're dead, or both). Also, shooting occasionally might be nice. Buffer tank for obv reason. Anyways, i very much approve of this project of yours. good luck!
Jhoria Englside	Posted - 2010.11.21 22:29:00 - [10] HAI! IT WUZ ME!! Originally by: CCP Zym Look at the thread, now look down, now look at the thread again. That's right it's now locked for spam. Now look at your spaceship, now back at me, that's right I'm on a Phobos
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.11.21 22:41:00 - [11] Honestly, get a small gang together or something. Gate snipers are the weakest kind of 'pirate'. Even other pirates will help you kill one. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Maeltstome Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.22 02:03:00 - [12] back during the nano age i saw a 10km/s megathron with full nos orbitting and ishkur and dropped heavy drones on it. The ishkur calmly nos'd the drones, rep'd the damage, and killed them. You have 1 very good option: Fit 2 nos and 2 blasters - 5 light drones, Warp Scram (+2 scram), web, afterburner armor rep, DCU, flavour Get lots of bookmarks around the game @ 150km (or get a friend in a cloaking ship to follow him). Jump in, warp to your spot and start the attack. With artillery cannons, he wont have any tank. Your best bet however is to have a friend in a covert ops de-cloak and get a point on him. He will most likely be sitting aligned to something for insta-warp. You back them up as they get neuted then you arrive with 2x nos - activate one, wait 3 seconds, activate the other. Then slowly humiliate him. kill drones as they appear. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Tameris Khan	Posted - 2010.11.22 08:06:00 - [13] Use a stealth bomber to point him before warping onto him as he's prolly aligned. No locking delay after decloak ftw
VanNostrum	Posted - 2010.11.22 08:45:00 - [14] U don't need cap boosters, when you're orbiting at 500 and got neuted by those heavies, you will still be able to scramble him and he won't be able to mwd away to hit you. Scrambler only needs 3 cap which you get in 1-2 seconds, and those big neuts have long cycles anyway. That tempest ain't go nowhere. If you get under his guns, he won't be able to hit you at all. You just need to take his drones.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.11.22 12:14:00 - [15] I'd probably go with at least 2 nos, just to be extra paranoid. and a web would be nice too, that way if he does manage to neut your point off he has to accelerate to warp. as for the lows I'd go with a rep, explosive hardener, and dc II.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2010.11.22 13:44:00 - [16] You'd have more luck in a sentinel...... Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down. Thankfully I've got Interceptors trained to V. S
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.11.22 13:49:00 - [17] I love the people giving him fits with only an AB when he hasn't stated he has a warp in. Do you expect him to slowboat it over 150k with a Tempest shooting at him? I mean, really. That is rather idiotic. To the OP: Use a dual prop fit or a Dram. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Artemis Rose Clandestine Vector	Posted - 2010.11.22 14:00:00 - [18] Probe him out Kill the drones Kill the ship *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.11.22 14:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Mutant Caldari I love the people giving him fits with only an AB when he hasn't stated he has a warp in. Do you expect him to slowboat it over 150k with a Tempest shooting at him? I mean, really. That is rather idiotic. To the OP: Use a dual prop fit or a Dram. because mwd the 150km is a better idea
Gone Beserk Minmatar Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc Scorned Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.23 18:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Mutant Caldari I love the people giving him fits with only an AB when he hasn't stated he has a warp in. Do you expect him to slowboat it over 150k with a Tempest shooting at him? I mean, really. That is rather idiotic. To the OP: Use a dual prop fit or a Dram. because mwd the 150km is a better idea I admit , i lolled =P
Fennisair Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.11.24 01:44:00 - [21] If this is the guy I'm thinking of he tried it on with me last night (or night before). However, apparently he couldn't lock a cyclone fast enough to get a shot away. :P ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail." ~ Ulysses S. Grant
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.24 02:41:00 - [22] If he's armour tanked, then he's gonna have at least 1 webber... and he'd have more drones than you too... good luck :D
Maeltstome Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.11.24 17:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Headerman If he's armour tanked, then he's gonna have at least 1 webber... and he'd have more drones than you too... good luck :D Sniper battleships aren't tanked. Try stickign a full rack of 1600's on a tempest with enough +optimal and +lock range to hit consistently at 150km then fit a tank aswell. I'd be impressed. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Enduros Desard's Nation Cha0s Theory	Posted - 2010.11.24 18:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Headerman If he's armour tanked, then he's gonna have at least 1 webber... and he'd have more drones than you too... good luck :D Sniper battleships aren't tanked. Try stickign a full rack of 1600's on a tempest with enough +optimal and +lock range to hit consistently at 150km then fit a tank aswell. I'd be impressed. Fleet issue tempest... 7 lows and can fit all the guns with a little grid to spare. - This one time, at gate camp, I shot a shuttle...
Bloody Puppy Minmatar bulloxer	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:11:00 - [25] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I on a sniper ------------------------------------- WHY EVERYONE LOVES ME BUT NOONE UNDERSTAND ME? Albert Heinstein
Devil tiger	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:22:00 - [26] I wonder if the guy in that Tempest reads these forums?
Dimitrios Ypsilanti	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Devil tiger I wonder if the guy in that Tempest reads these forums? That's what I wondered when I first created this post. For that reason I misrepresented a few of the details. But I've talked to a few guys in local since then. Seems this character has a habit of sitting on gates with a smart bomb (probably in a different ship). I'm sure the fact that one more pilot is out to get him isn't really going to be news. And for the record: He's not really in a tempest. They guy is in a Mach. I'm making bookmarks now.
Tiger Prince Minmatar Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:37:00 - [28] There is a big difference between a fleet pest and a Mach...The Mach is MUCH harder to kill. It's not as hard to fit a nice shield tank and 1400's on a Mach and get an evil sniper at 150km+. If the Mach didn't have at least one flight of light ECM drones he would be an idiot.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.25 00:50:00 - [29] Am sure he has at least 1 pre-recorded message begging for help too...
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2010.11.25 01:56:00 - [30] If it's a Mach, you're going to have a really hard time without a warp in and even then it won't be easy or quick. If he's not dumb, he'll have a full set of med and light ecm drones (or two sets of light ecm drones) and will be aligned out. The ecm drones plus his neut will most likely give him more than enough time to warp out.

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