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Commander Linski
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Linski on 23/11/2010 16:30:23
Hello, firstly thank you for taking the time to read my venture.
my background
My profession within EvE has always been related to Industry. Mining and manufacturing has been my primary concern, with trading and market analysis taking a supporting role to my primary profession for maximum profit.
I have partaken in various bonds on the MD froum, but have mostly been a lurker, but alas, have now decided to launch my first venture.
The proposal
There are many bond's available to us all on the MD forum, somme new, some old, many offering good returns for those who place faith in a risky bond or interest loan agreement.
My holdings company seeks to identify, using an expert pannel of shareholders, the most stable and profitable schemes available to us - our primary concern being stability over profit.
We would invest your ISK into various schemes that we have selected as being the most stable, and that would also offer us reasonable return.
Thats all very well, but what can you offer me as an investor?
We would offer you a standardised monthly/yearly interest rate, depending on your prference of X%
Is there a risk?
Yes.
We would minimise the chances of any loss to our investors by choosing schemes that we consider both profitable and stable - stability is key. Although we do not see the chances of a total investment failure likely, there is a potential for a lower % rate for a poor investment choice (so a lower profit to you, but profit all the same)
what assurance do I have that you are legit?
An audit will be undertaken once the company has begun. - prior to investment
My full API key is on offer to all investors during any period of investment.
I welcome critisism and support for my venture - please keep it constructive so I can improve my plans and begin operation.
Many thanks,
Linski
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rain9441
Big Head Want Dolly
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:35:00 -
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What happens if the investment you made goes bad?
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Seven Sins
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Seven Sins on 23/11/2010 16:36:34
The average % for a risky investment is 10% with a monthly pay out, or payment in full over a short term.
I have no problem investing in risky ventures, but you need to convince us of a few things:
Facts and Figures about your business ideas. Show us P&L Over 1,3,6 and 12 months.
A sound business plan.
Any previous references of note?
Collateral, available or not - 3rd party secured?
Audit.
EDIT: If it goes pear shaped, what backup plans do you have to repay investors (if no collateral stated)
If you can demonstrate all of the above to me and I like what I see, I will conduct a further in game interview and see if it is a worth while investment.
Good luck!
Sev
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Commander Linski
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.23 16:51:00 -
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rain9441;
I will be initially investing several billion into the scheme myself for initial colaltoral to all investments.
Seven Sins;
Facts and Figures about your business ideas. Show us P&L Over 1,3,6 and 12 months.
A sound business plan.
- The investment company is very much dependent on all other bonds and investments on offer, the comapny will simply be investing in several different bonds using expert knowlege to offer a stable monthly/yearly interest rate. - I will clraify this soon.
Any previous references of note?
- None to speak of - hence my audit and full API.
Collateral, available or not - 3rd party secured?
Audit.
- audit will be conducted, and i will be investing several billion ISK as inital collatoral during its opening weeks.
I hope this answers both of your sets of questions 
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.11.23 17:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Commander Linski
- audit will be conducted, and i will be investing several billion ISK as inital collatoral during its opening weeks.
Lol, new definition of collateral. ^_^
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Commander Linski
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Posted - 2010.11.23 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Commander Linski
- audit will be conducted, and i will be investing several billion ISK as inital collatoral during its opening weeks.
Lol, new definition of collateral. ^_^
Actually it seems rather logical if you follow it through, rather than simply offering a similar amount of ISK as collatoral incase of a bad investment, the investor will see that a sizable amount if ISK much greater than their own investment is available in the company if anything was to go wrong.
Consider it pro-active collatoral.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.23 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski
Edited by: Commander Linski on 23/11/2010 17:18:39
Edited by: Commander Linski on 23/11/2010 17:18:17
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Commander Linski
- audit will be conducted, and i will be investing several billion ISK as inital collatoral during its opening weeks.
Lol, new definition of collateral. ^_^
Actually it seems rather logical if you follow it through, rather than simply offering a similar amount of ISK as collateral incase of a bad investment, the investor will see that a sizable amount if ISK much greater than their own investment is available in the company if anything was to go wrong.
Consider it pro-active collateral.
Except there's nothing in there that stops YOU from stealing the isk and running away with it. That is the true risk of this venture, it is unsecured by any means as it stands now and as such is JUST AS RISKY as any other unsecured bond in MD.
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Commander Linski
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Posted - 2010.11.23 17:26:00 -
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Tha would be true, however once I have achieved a good level of interest in this veture and have recieved feedback, I will be offering an audit of my scheme, Also a board of shareholders and such will be in place to monitor the company progression.
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Charles37
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Posted - 2010.11.23 18:30:00 -
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1. Just because you're getting an audit doesn't mean that you aren't going to scam.
2. Who are these 'expert investors' that you mention who will decide what to invest in?
3. What criteria will they be using for investment choices? Gut instinct? Tarot cards? Magic 8 Ball?
4. As stated above, saying that you will also invest your own isk into the venture is not collateral; collateral would be a BPO or other tangible good that is held by a third party to recoup investor losses in the event of a default/scam.
5. Have you already identified areas where you can make a good investment? If not, why?
6. Nitpick -- If you're asking for money, and I may be alone in this, but it will look more professional and well run if you have consistent formatting and capitalization throughout your post in addition to following the template for business plans that most on this board use.
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Ixgard
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Posted - 2010.11.23 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ixgard on 23/11/2010 19:48:09
I might be interested in this depending up on rate of return, and telling us its flexible at high risk isn't something I'm interested in.
Telling me I'm getting 10% no matter what is what I'm interested in. So if we make 18% you get the 8% because you did the work. And I'm okay with that. What I'm not okay is well i tanked, and invested my own money and i'm now dissappearing as another thread put it for "RL issues".
I do believe that you need to do 3 months secure to attempt to establish yourself and then see the results of an audit at that time. I actually believe your better off not investing and using your money to attempt to partially secure your offering or doing a small period of time at full secure with an audit at beginning and end.
contact me ingame or reply on the thread for additional discussion.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Caldariftw123 on 23/11/2010 20:40:13
Originally by: Commander Linski
Tha would be true, however once I have achieved a good level of interest in this veture and have recieved feedback, I will be offering an audit of my scheme, Also a board of shareholders and such will be in place to monitor the company progression.
There is no "would be" or "however" .. it is completely 100% unsecured, absolutely unsecured, totally unsecured. No matter how you word it there is no security for someone investing whatsoever.
The only thing an audit would do to show security is if it brings up a history of investment and trading that proved profitable, thus at least showing you have the skill to pull this off (though that still doesn't mean you, or this 'board of shareholders' wont run off with the isk anyway)
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Commander Linski
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:48:00 -
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In retrospect it might be best off using this plan at a later date and develop my reputation within MD to begin with - does anyone have any advice on how I should go about making a name for myself?
and Ixgard, many thanks for the interest, however for the time being I think it's best if I develop a name for myself within MD, however I leave the discussion door open for a later date.
Many thanks for the feedback everyone, all advice welcomed.
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Linski
it might be best off ... develop[ing] my reputation within MD to begin with - does anyone have any advice on how I should go about making a name for myself?
Spoken like a true scammer!
My recommendation is that you come up with a business plan that actually makes ISK, then... make some ISK and prove that it works. Instead of trying to build a "name", try to build a record of actual performance.
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Bryg Philomena
Don't Taze Me Bro
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Posted - 2010.11.24 01:58:00 -
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Well, ideally, you say you are already into building/manufacturing. Consider small loans (with full collateral) to expand your current operations. Post frequently (BUT WITH CONTENT) on these boards to allow the community to get an understanding of you. Be sure that these posts showcase your knowledge. Spend time to learn these boards first before speaking. Be helpful. Become an investor. Showcase opportunities that others haven't exploited yet. |
Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 24/11/2010 16:36:34
Am I the only one who thinks that "scheme" sounds somewhat like a deterrent?
Edit: just wanted to say I approve.
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Bryg Philomena
Don't Taze Me Bro
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Posted - 2010.11.24 19:39:00 -
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What I don't understand here is, why would I invest in this rather than just the original IPOs?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars???
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