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Dark Pangolin
Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.11.23 18:06:00 -
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So I want to fight Blood Raiders and only Blood Raiders...Where do I go to find these NPCs? What part of space are they the pirates in? Better yet which agents will give primarily Blood Raider missions in high sec? Are there even agents that do this? I'm not big into PvE but I do need a way to fund my pvp and I like what the Blood Raiders drop :)
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.23 18:28:00 -
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You find Blood Raiders in Amarr space.
So Providence/Delve/Querious/Period Basis area for 0.0 (You find BR missions in NPC Delve)
In High and Low sec space, try the Aridia, Domain, Derelik, Devoid regions. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |

Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:28:00 -
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Actually most Amarr regions feature Sansha rats, only a few regions feature Blood Raiders. If get your butt to the Khanid region and start running missions for the Royal Khanid Navy, you'll have all the Blood Raider missions you can handle. Also lowsec Khanid and Aridia regions have plenty of Bloods in the asteroid belts and complexes, and it's easy to access Delve and Querious (nullsec) from there.
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Dark Pangolin
Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.11.23 20:48:00 -
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Royal Khanid Navy you say...THNX! Not to go 27 jumps! 
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.11.23 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Actually most Amarr regions feature Sansha rats, only a few regions feature Blood Raiders. If get your butt to the Khanid region and start running missions for the Royal Khanid Navy, you'll have all the Blood Raider missions you can handle.
Why run missions for crappy Khanid agents when the best Amarr agent is in blood raider space, 3 jumps from Amarr?  |

Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.23 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arec Bardwin
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Actually most Amarr regions feature Sansha rats, only a few regions feature Blood Raiders. If get your butt to the Khanid region and start running missions for the Royal Khanid Navy, you'll have all the Blood Raider missions you can handle.
Why run missions for crappy Khanid agents when the best Amarr agent is in blood raider space, 3 jumps from Amarr? 
Who is he?
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mavnas
Originally by: Arec Bardwin Why run missions for crappy Khanid agents when the best Amarr agent is in blood raider space, 3 jumps from Amarr? 
Who is he?
I think "best Amarr agent" might have been a subjective statement.
The best Amarr hisec agents (L4 Q18 0.5 sec, from lowest truesec to highest):
* Nadu Tzuku / Manufacturing, Pashanai IV - Moon 3 - Amarr Constructions Production Plant * Nurirtchas Enda / Financial, Narai VIII - Moon 8 - Imperial Chancellor Bureau Offices * Uanersen Ashenout / Manufacturing, Cleyd VI - Moon 4 - Carthum Conglomerate Production Plant * Javira Fonoush / Distribution, Slays V - Moon 1 - Ducia Foundry Mineral Reserve * Partod Darmete / Personnel, Yarebap VII - Moon 18 - Amarr Navy Assembly Plant * Mimi Sirya / Production, Hjoramold XII - Moon 1 - Joint Harvesting Plantation
None are 3 jumps from Amarr.
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yurisuss
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:13:00 -
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Look at the rats in the belts to see the usual type of npcs you will be fighting. Some high sec systems you should encounter more bloodraider missions will be in kor-azor,khanid, genesis and kador. Look at ombey eve maps if you want more sectors. The kaalakotia agent in murini is ok. Lp store stuff doesn't sell that well. Theres also a ministry of war level 4 q20 agent in zorrabed . |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander * Partod Darmete / Personnel, Yarebap VII - Moon 18 - Amarr Navy Assembly Plant
yarebap is a nice system 
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
I think "best Amarr agent" might have been a subjective statement. ..... None are 3 jumps from Amarr (and Cleyd and Slays are hisec islands). Agents in better divisions, or closer to Amarr, are lower effective quality.
Yes, the agent has slightly lower effective quality, but the lp-shop compensates for this imho. And I am quite happy that this agent stay relatively unknown  |
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General Trajan
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.24 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 24/11/2010 01:24:10
Originally by: Mavnas
Originally by: Arec Bardwin Why run missions for crappy Khanid agents when the best Amarr agent is in blood raider space, 3 jumps from Amarr? 
Who is he?
I think "best Amarr agent" might have been a subjective statement.
The best Amarr hisec agents (L4 Q18 0.5 sec, from lowest truesec to highest):
* Nadu Tzuku / Manufacturing, Pashanai IV - Moon 3 - Amarr Constructions Production Plant * Nurirtchas Enda / Financial, Narai VIII - Moon 8 - Imperial Chancellor Bureau Offices * Uanersen Ashenout / Manufacturing, Cleyd VI - Moon 4 - Carthum Conglomerate Production Plant * Javira Fonoush / Distribution, Slays V - Moon 1 - Ducia Foundry Mineral Reserve * Partod Darmete / Personnel, Yarebap VII - Moon 18 - Amarr Navy Assembly Plant * Mimi Sirya / Production, Hjoramold XII - Moon 1 - Joint Harvesting Plantation
None are 3 jumps from Amarr (and Cleyd and Slays are hisec islands). Agents in better divisions, or closer to Amarr, are lower effective quality.
The Amarr Navy one is probably the best Amarr agent considering the division too. Also in Blood Raider territory, and 7 jumps from Amarr (6 jumps from lowsec too, so no worries about missions going there).
I personally dislike the standings hit from navies, so I mission at a worse agent in 0.6 (still Q18 but about Q8 effective).
*whew* for a second there i thought you had THE best amarr agent in your list. was really dreading another influx of players to the area i'm at. but what you've got listed will do just fine! 
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Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:05:00 -
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So noob question, each .1 of lower sec status is equal to 10 points of quality in payout terms? Also, is this effect linear?
On my Amarr char, I've been running missions for Court Chamberlain because they had a whole bunch of level 2 agents 1 jump away from Amarr. Unfortunately that corp has a single L4 agent . I've used them to get my general Amarr standings up to the point when I can run any L3 Amarr mission, but I'm kind of dissappointed with the payouts now and wanting to find some better agents.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mavnas So noob question, each .1 of lower sec status is equal to 10 points of quality in payout terms? Also, is this effect linear?
Yes, a L4 Q18 agent in 0.6 will payout roughly about the same as a L4 Q8 agent in 0.5
Yes, the relationship seems to be roughly linear.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: General Trajan
*whew* for a second there i thought you had THE best amarr agent in your list. was really dreading another influx of players to the area i'm at. but what you've got listed will do just fine! 
The fun part is that Tau Cabalander is working for the very same agent himself; his list of THE BEST Amarr agents was just a clever way to direct the masses elsewhere |

Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arec Bardwin
Originally by: General Trajan
*whew* for a second there i thought you had THE best amarr agent in your list. was really dreading another influx of players to the area i'm at. but what you've got listed will do just fine! 
The fun part is that Tau Cabalander is working for the very same agent himself; his list of THE BEST Amarr agents was just a clever way to direct the masses elsewhere
Note to self: Use locator agent when I get home.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Arec Bardwin on 24/11/2010 20:35:16
Originally by: Mavnas
Note to self: Use locator agent when I get home.
No need for that. He was smart enough to post with his PVE char, so just look him up ingame and take a look at his standings tab. |

Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.24 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Arec Bardwin Edited by: Arec Bardwin on 24/11/2010 20:35:16
Originally by: Mavnas
Note to self: Use locator agent when I get home.
No need for that. He was smart enough to post with his PVE char, so just look him up ingame and take a look at his standings tab.
Ooh. It seems I am yet a noob in the art of finding info. (Well, and a lot of other things too. It will be weeks before I can use T2 large lasers .)
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:01:00 -
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I hate to point out the obvious, but the Irmalin system has three L4 Q20 , two L3 Q20, and one L2 Q20 agents, all in combat divisions, all for Royal Khanid Navy. The system is in 0.1 security. These agents pay far better than the crappy agents being advertised and debated above. And Irmalin is not unique. It's not even unique in Blood Raider space. I also used to run missions for Ministry of War in the Hophib system, Aridia region, a system which has eleven L4 Q20 agents (five in combat division) and there are Blood Raiders in the belts.
Now, lowsec mission running isn't for everyone. Obviously you need to either be friendly with the locals, or drive them out. I only meant to point out that it's kind of silly to be playing min-maxing games, nitpicking about the difference in payout between a 0.5 and 0.6 system, when you've already made a commitment to the worst-paying category of agents: highsec ones. |

Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.24 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Now, lowsec mission running isn't for everyone. Obviously you need to either be friendly with the locals, or drive them out. I only meant to point out that it's kind of silly to be playing min-maxing games, nitpicking about the difference in payout between a 0.5 and 0.6 system, when you've already made a commitment to the worst-paying category of agents: highsec ones.
It's not at all silly. The difference in risk between .5 and .6 is negligible. If like me, you're relatively low-SP, poor, and risk-averse low and null-sec might as well not exist. When I can fly a pimped out unprobable T3, low sec will suddenly begin to exist. Until then, it makes sense to figure out how best to buy that unprobable pwnmobile (well, ok the answer to that is exploration, but meh.)
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.25 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mavnas When I can fly a pimped out unprobable T3, low sec will suddenly begin to exist. Until then, it makes sense to figure out how best to buy that unprobable pwnmobile (well, ok the answer to that is exploration, but meh.)
Fly a T2 fit one instead, so you can afford to replace it when it dies. Leave your directional scanner up and just head back to the station if someone starts probing you out. If you are of the mind set that you can't head out to low sec or null sec until you have a bunch of skills maxed out, you will eventually find yourself thinking "I just need large beam spec to 5".
Ask yourself if you have enough isk to replace a lost ship and if the answer is yes then you have no reason not to go.
PS: Seriously, just use T2 because the one day you stop watching local is the day you'll drop all of that expensive stuff to some guy in a ship that cost a fraction of yours.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.25 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Arec Bardwin The fun part is that Tau Cabalander is working for the very same agent himself; his list of THE BEST Amarr agents was just a clever way to direct the masses elsewhere
That's why I provided a link so people can look it up for themselves? 
Feel free to use worse agents. Yes, I do. I only do missions for standing, not for LP/ISK though.
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Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.11.26 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas
Originally by: Mavnas When I can fly a pimped out unprobable T3, low sec will suddenly begin to exist. Until then, it makes sense to figure out how best to buy that unprobable pwnmobile (well, ok the answer to that is exploration, but meh.)
Fly a T2 fit one instead, so you can afford to replace it when it dies. Leave your directional scanner up and just head back to the station if someone starts probing you out. If you are of the mind set that you can't head out to low sec or null sec until you have a bunch of skills maxed out, you will eventually find yourself thinking "I just need large beam spec to 5".
Ask yourself if you have enough isk to replace a lost ship and if the answer is yes then you have no reason not to go.
First answer: implants. Second answer, if I lose more money than I gain by going to low sec, that's a pretty good reason not to go. This isn't like some MMO where different regions are vastly different and cool looking. The only reason to go to low sec is if you can make more ISK/hr, which I can't if I'm constantly warping out of missions and/or losing ships.
How do different levels compare to quality? I.e. is there a sufficient quality difference that a L3 agent could give more LP than a L4?
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Rip Minner
Gallente ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:13:00 -
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Best Agent in High Sec is?
1.) Sihsad Aphuka, Level 4. Quality 18 0.6 system Division Administration. Has the added benfit of Datacore farming if so inclined to do so latter on. Corthum Conglomerate Warehouse Moon-4 Hahda 7
2.) Hepeta Tarvia, Level: 4 Quality: -15 Located at Aband 4- Moon 3 Ministry of War Information Centy Division Surveillance. Added benfit of having a Combate Blood Raid mission omost every time.
Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
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