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cynthia greythorne
Gallente
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:13:00 -
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Hi  I'm not sure that I understand what will be happening with the removal of the learning skills. I understand that the sp will be returned to us, but what about the attribute points we gained whilst training all the learning skills? For example, if I have 20 attribute points accrued from the training of the learning skills, will I keep them, or are we all being levelled down to the same exact number of attribute points?
If we keep the points we earned, will that not place older players at a permanent advantage? We would always have more points and faster training times than new players. Not that I am complaining about that 
Thank you.
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Admiral Rufus
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:17:00 -
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read the bloody sticky
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cynthia greythorne
Gallente
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:48:00 -
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Thank you for your helpful response. I did read the bloody sticky, but I didn't quite understand it, perhaps because I am dumb.
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Amateratsu
Caldari
The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.11.27 11:49:00 -
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No
Base attributes will be increased by 12 pts across all stats.
There will be a small loss of 1.4 pts, but this will only effect min/max trainers to a very small degree.
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cynthia greythorne
Gallente
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.11.27 12:00:00 -
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I will take your word for it, though I still find it rather confusing. But since no one else seems perturbed, I guess there is nothing to worry about. My concern is, or was, that, for example, I have currently 30 APs in perception. I would hate to have that cut down to a mere 20.
Thank you
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.11.27 12:34:00 -
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Basically, the attribute points we would have gotten from training the learning skills we will recieve as base now.
For example someone who has trained 4 / 4 in perp pre patch has 8 attribute points. After the patch, they will see their perp increase by another 4 points as 12 is the maximum you would have gotten had you fully trained all your skills.
Charisma being the odd one out, will only receive 11 points and will cry itself to sleep in the corner, lonely and unloved by anyone who isn't a Jita trader or FC.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.11.27 12:56:00 -
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 Originally by: cynthia greythorne
I will take your word for it, though I still find it rather confusing. But since no one else seems perturbed, I guess there is nothing to worry about. My concern is, or was, that, for example, I have currently 30 APs in perception. I would hate to have that cut down to a mere 20.
Thank you
"All new and existing characters will have an extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute." from the devblog, how is that in any way not clear?
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Amateratsu
Caldari
The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2010.11.27 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Anyura
Charisma being the odd one out, will only receive 11 points and will cry itself to sleep in the corner, lonely and unloved by anyone who isn't a Jita trader or FC.
Thats not quite correct.
Currently you get 39 base attribute points, 4 at 8 pts and 1 at 7 pts depending on your choices during character creation.
After the change all atributes will have 12 pts added to their base, so it will be 4 at 20 pts and 1 at 19 pts again depending on what choices you made at character creation.
At least thats how it used to be, may have changed since i last created a new character.
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2010.11.27 13:16:00 -
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check out "Attributes - Quo Vadis (in picture! with colors!)" in this very subforum for graphic visualization of incoming attribute alchemy.
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cynthia greythorne
Gallente
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.11.27 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
"All new and existing characters will have an extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute." from the devblog, how is that in any way not clear?
I sincerely apologise, but it is not at all clear to me. I found the flippant style of the blog a distraction, and the English usage peculiar. All of that notwithstanding, if these 12 points are non-remappable, as you say, where do the remappable points come from? Are we all to be given an equal measure of those as well?
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Adjal Kardjaval
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:29:00 -
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the read the sticky is a very helpful response,
here i will point out the important part,
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# ALL LEARNING SKILLS WILL DISAPPEAR
* We're not kidding. In your head, in your hangar or in your anything else, they're gone. Vamoosh. Deleted. Sent to the big recycle bin in the sky. Etc etc.
# All skillpoints invested in learning skills will be reimbursed, including all the fiddly corner cases. If you have 2,012,692 SP in learning, you will find yourself down those skills, but with 2,012,692 skillpoints to redistribute.
# All skillbooks not currently injected into people's heads will be reimbursed at the old NPC sell price. The money will go to whichever character or corporation owns the container that the skillbooks are in. For example, things in cans you've anchored for yourself will be reimbursed to you, things in corporate hangar arrays or the "deliveries" bin will be reimbursed to the owning corporation.
# This will also involve cancelling any and all market orders containing these skills. Contracts containing learning skills will have those skillbooks substituted for copies of the Pax Amarria.
# All new and existing characters will have an extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute.
# The 100% training speed bonus up to 1.6m SP will no longer be available. People partway through this bonus will lose the remaining bonus amount. They will of course gain a huge attribute bonus to make up for it.
# Miscellaneous other cleanup tasks will be performed that are not very interesting, details available on request.
so do you see the point of where you needed to read?
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