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Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
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Posted - 2010.11.27 23:24:00 -
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BBC News Science linky
Could someone with more brain power than me help me understand this? There is a Big Bang, then an expansion, then something happens to cause another Big Bang and through all these cycles there is an evolution of some sort?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.11.28 00:34:00 -
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The idea that humans have everything figured out is something of a fairy tale.
What do you think that means?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.11.28 01:07:00 -
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I never really subscribed to a theory about something without an end having a beginning.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus I never really subscribed to a theory about something without an end having a beginning.
Everyone knows that on the first day God created the heavens and the earth.
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2010.11.28 01:42:00 -
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What I think the article from the BBC is trying to say is that human beings have reached a new understanding of the theory of the explosions that result in the creation of matter. This is really quite exciting I am totally excited to read about this you are very very cool for bringing this to my attention and to the attention of other people in this room.
I'm quite fascinated with the concept of the explosion that can generate matter.
Do you like the science?
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Akiba Penrose
Banana Airlines
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:00:00 -
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None can do. guess we just have to wait for his peers to review his thory.
Tho it seems a bit jumbo mubo to me.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:06:00 -
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It's sounds like the 'beginning' of 'our universe' was really the evolution of the laws of nature at the 'end' of 'another universe', and that they have now found traces of processes in that 'other universe'. Like how people have vestigial tails.
But really, I have no ****ing idea.  -
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn It's sounds like the 'beginning' of 'our universe' was really the evolution of the laws of nature at the 'end' of 'another universe', and that they have now found traces of processes in that 'other universe'. Like how people have vestigial tails.
Sort of like snails, right?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: So Sensational Sort of like snails, right?
What about snails? -
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Florio BBC News Science linky
Could someone with more brain power than me help me understand this? There is a Big Bang, then an expansion, then something happens to cause another Big Bang and through all these cycles there is an evolution of some sort?
Try watching 'Cosmos' by Carl Sagan, he explained this basic idea decades ago in an easy way in that television series.
I dunno how to put it simple for you, but if the universe is cycloc ther might eventually be a contraction after the expansion, or something else might happen. And each time during this shift the laws of nature might change a bit and make the universe a bit different. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: So Sensational Sort of like snails, right?
What about snails?
SORT OF LIKE SNAILS!
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.28 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: So Sensational Sort of like snails, right?
What about snails?
SORT OF LIKE SNAILS!
Oh that's much clearer, thank you.  -
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.11.28 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: So Sensational Sort of like snails, right?
What about snails?
SORT OF LIKE SNAILS!
Exactly.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.28 04:51:00 -
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What is everyone talking about! I don't even know!  -
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.28 04:57:00 -
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So, the Hindus were right after all perhaps.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Shadowkenn
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Posted - 2010.11.28 07:00:00 -
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I was under the impression that this "big bang" was actually an expansion or something... Also, according to todays theories the universe may die from heat death since it's expanding too fast for gravity to contain it.
heh... when I read the title of this thread first thing I thought of was a really REALLY bad hairstyle...
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.28 07:30:00 -
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alternatively, there theory states that its possible for the universe to be expanding at a decreasing rate, leading to eventual negative expansion, and we all crash back into each other..
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter alternatively, there theory states that its possible for the universe to be expanding at a decreasing rate, leading to eventual negative expansion, and we all crash back into each other..
The word you're looking for is collapse 
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2010.11.28 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 28/11/2010 09:11:46
Final moments in the LHC. A scientist runs into the control room waving his hands and shouts "I've just realized where gamma-ray bursts are coming from!" The other scientist, sitting in front of a panel, reaches out and presses a button.
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.28 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowkenn Also, according to todays theories the universe may die from heat death since it's expanding too fast for gravity to contain it.
"Can the workings of the second law of thermodynamics (used in the story as the increase of the entropy of the universe), be reversed?" Multivac's only response after much "thinking" is: "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."
- Asimov, "The Last Question" ... good story. :)
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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kaplowwwwwwwwwwwww
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Posted - 2010.11.28 18:00:00 -
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Go look up the Holigraphic Universe theory.
Enjoy the next several hours of mind ****
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2010.11.28 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Shadowkenn Also, according to todays theories the universe may die from heat death since it's expanding too fast for gravity to contain it.
"Can the workings of the second law of thermodynamics (used in the story as the increase of the entropy of the universe), be reversed?" Multivac's only response after much "thinking" is: "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER."
- Asimov, "The Last Question" ... good story. :)
In this little talk, Roger Penrose explains that the way this new idea is compatible with the second law of thermodynamics, is that black holes absorb most of this increasing entropy, and eventually these black holes disappear through Hawking evaporation. According to him, this is a major difference between this idea of the cyclic universes, and previously existing ideas about big bangs leading into big crunches which lead into yet more big bangs.
He also claims that if this idea is right, they should have definitive evidence of it within the next years, so it's not just purely hypothetical speculation.
As a side note, for anyone interested on these sort of subjects, Sir Roger Penrose has published a couple fascinating books concerning physics, maths, cosmology, minds, computers, consciousness, the fabric of reality and so on: The Emperor's New Mind, and more recently The Road To Reality.
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Cikulisuy
Amarr D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.11.29 04:39:00 -
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there is yet insufficient information for a meaningful answer. ~ |
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