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Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:13:00 - [1] Why does the valuable ore which gives us megacyte or zydrine fear High Security? Does High Sec smell? Seems rather moronic that these roids are only found in lowsec doesn't it? At the very least...CCP, pop a few randomly in high.. drop a couple inside missions and see if anyone notices them? Understand the whole "lawlessness" bit of lowsec... but not the fear of highsec by the roid fields..??
Reaver Glitterstim	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:15:00 - [2] They keep those minerals out of high security to force players into low security to get them. it's just another way to make sure people are getting blowed up.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:17:00 - [3] There are more than enough players who love PVP. Don't need to ruin game for PVE'ers Besides..still moronic.
Reaver Glitterstim	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:22:00 - [4] Yeah, but part of the game is all about making sure nobody is safe all the time. If you don't like it, go play something else. CCP doesn't want just some of the players to PVP and some to not. They want players to feel free to PVP with anyone, just about anywhere. The disadvantage lies with the ones who don't want to PVP, and that's just how CCP wants it to be.
Claymore Rhade	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:22:00 - [5] iirc its a lore reason. All the good ores are mined out by the inhabitants of the systems. Places with less concord protection have better ores because fewer number would venture out to decimate said ores.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:27:00 - [6] Originally by: Claymore Rhade iirc its a lore reason. All the good ores are mined out by the inhabitants of the systems. Places with less concord protection have better ores because fewer number would venture out to decimate said ores. Now that is a half answer.. thanks Claymore. But still unrealistic...hugely populated areas ie: highsec would mine out ALL the ore.. especially Tritanium based ones that is required for everything. All I am asking for is random drops in asteroid belts.. or mission roid fields.. rock or two now and again.
Claymore Rhade	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Dohfugwimee Originally by: Claymore Rhade iirc its a lore reason. All the good ores are mined out by the inhabitants of the systems. Places with less concord protection have better ores because fewer number would venture out to decimate said ores. Now that is a half answer.. thanks Claymore. But still unrealistic...hugely populated areas ie: highsec would mine out ALL the ore.. especially Tritanium based ones that is required for everything. All I am asking for is random drops in asteroid belts.. or mission roid fields.. rock or two now and again. Already done. There are a couple lvl 4's with high quality astriods albeit not very much, and its possible to find a grav site with everything cept mexerite in highsec... or at least it way this way like a year ago dont konw if they changed it.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 06:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Reaver Glitterstim Yeah, but part of the game is all about making sure nobody is safe all the time. If you don't like it, go play something else. CCP doesn't want just some of the players to PVP and some to not. They want players to feel free to PVP with anyone, just about anywhere. The disadvantage lies with the ones who don't want to PVP, and that's just how CCP wants it to be. If that was "the way" then there wouldn't be highsec or every trip of more than two gates would "have" to go thru lowsec. Come on... There is more than enough Eve to have PVE players and PVP players. But space itself should not be defined by police presence. and if you don't like my thoughts.. YOU go play somewhere else... ass
Torothanax	Posted - 2010.11.28 07:06:00 - [9] Because you already have mining bots that run 23/7 in high sec. And the industrius bot players/farmers usually run several accounts at once. CCP isn't going to reward people for staying in high sec any more then they do now. If you want high end ore you need to find a null alliance that wants you, or start looking in W systems. I suggest you find a low population system to look for WH's in if you go that route.
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.28 07:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Reaver Glitterstim Yeah, but part of the game is all about making sure nobody is safe all the time. If you don't like it, go play something else. CCP doesn't want just some of the players to PVP and some to not. They want players to feel free to PVP with anyone, just about anywhere. The disadvantage lies with the ones who don't want to PVP, and that's just how CCP wants it to be. Really? Strange how we have all this high-sec space where attacking someone brings an overwhelming police presence swooping down on you.

Pan Dora Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.11.28 15:24:00 - [11] So in your mind tthe people mining ABCM need to be screwed because you are too scared to do like them and want your high end ore everywhere? How cute! Maybe this game is more suited for you _ I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game.
Gemberslaafje Vivicide	Posted - 2010.11.28 15:31:00 - [12] It's called risk vs reward. In highsec there's not very much that can kill a hulk, apart for the odd hulkageddon and maybe if you fell asleep without your tank on... In return, you get no more then Jaspet i think it was. In 0.0 the rats alone are stronger then in highsec, could kill a hulk if you're not careful, and there's the constant threat of people deciding to destroy your ship in some or other way. But, in return, you do get Arkonor, Bistot and Crokite. --- Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ Also a spy.
Christopher AET	Posted - 2010.11.28 15:53:00 - [13] I risk my hulk in 0.0. Why should I not get better ore than you.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 17:08:00 - [14] oh you big scary players.. Tears run down me face.. Thanks for the non answers morons. Still a lame excuse to have certain ore in low only... yeah like sound in space right? Have to make it playable.?? Peeps who like blowing ** up will not be affected by "SOME" high value ore in .5 space (go reread what I ask for).. plenty of red t' for you to shoot at. Game is more than that tho. Originally by:** Torothanax Because you already have mining bots that run 23/7 in high sec. And the industrius bot players/farmers usually run several accounts at once. CCP isn't going to reward people for staying in high sec any more then they do now. If you want high end ore you need to find a null alliance that wants you, or start looking in W systems. I suggest you find a low population system to look for WH's in if you go that route. Thanks for the idea.. Appreciate a helpful post Rest of you..go troll in low
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.28 17:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Dohfugwimee oh you big scary players.. Tears run down me face.. Thanks for the non answers morons. Still a lame excuse to have certain ore in low only... yeah like sound in space right? Have to make it playable.?? Peeps who like blowing ** up will not be affected by "SOME" high value ore in .5 space (go reread what I ask for).. plenty of red t' for you to shoot at. Game is more than that tho. Originally by:** Torothanax Because you already have mining bots that run 23/7 in high sec. And the industrius bot players/farmers usually run several accounts at once. CCP isn't going to reward people for staying in high sec any more then they do now. If you want high end ore you need to find a null alliance that wants you, or start looking in W systems. I suggest you find a low population system to look for WH's in if you go that route. Thanks for the idea.. Appreciate a helpful post Rest of you..go troll in low You don't even have a basic understanding of mining and are complaining about it. That in itself is a recipe for getting flamed. Lets take a look at your perception vs reality. The best ore in the game is in nullsec. the ore in lowsec is worth less than the ore in highsec. Wormholes are nullsec. The least amount of player killing/PvP in eve takes place in wormholes. You actually have a better chance of losing your mining vessel in hisec, where the ore is worth the least. Have fun.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 17:25:00 - [16] Have the basic understanding. I know where ore is found. Can even "get" why low has valuable. But again.. other than.."cuz that's the way it is!" Which in itself makes a Thread dedicated to Features and Ideas Discussion a waste of space. Why not seed some in HighSec ..Some players have little to 0 interest in having all their game time and effort flamed by one yahoo with a warp jammer. Not everyone that PAYS for this game wants to play the same as you PVP-ers Get over yourselves. Sandbox doesn't mean ..Hey lets beat up everybody. Open world.. Good places ..Bad places. But Ore should NOT be able to tell the difference. Anyway.. Thanks for the discourse... even you morons CCP..Anyone? Thoughts?
Pan Dora Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.11.28 18:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Dohfugwimee oh you big scary players.. Tears run down me face.. Thanks for the non answers morons. Still a lame excuse to have certain ore in low only... yeah like sound in space right? Have to make it playable.?? Peeps who like blowing up will not be affected by "SOME" high value ore in .5 space (go reread what I ask for).. plenty of red t' for you to shoot at. Game is more than that tho. The problem its NOT people that want to kill Hulks in nullsec. Like I said early there is people living of mining in 0.0/WH space. They can do that because high valued ores dont spawn everywhere. Actualy "some" easyly avaliable mineral in high sec via reprocessing mission loot greatly reduce the potential rewards for this miners already. BTW as shocking as it may be for you, this people PAY their account. Some PAY for several accounts, some have 4+ years of PAYing. _ I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game.
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.11.28 18:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Pan Dora BTW as shocking as it may be for you, this people PAY their account. Some PAY for several accounts, some have 4+ years of PAYing. Oh god real money?!?! I'm ascared!!! - I RETROLL FOR MAXIMUM DAMAGE.
Dohfugwimee	Posted - 2010.11.28 18:31:00 - [19] Originally by: William Cooly Originally by: Pan Dora BTW as shocking as it may be for you, this people PAY their account. Some PAY for several accounts, some have 4+ years of PAYing. Oh god real money?!?! I'm ascared!!! Chuckle.. chuckle..moron troll Now that your panties are all tight go away. You don't add any value to Ideas thread.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.11.28 18:37:00 - [20] if you dont listen to this your a troll its risk vs reward, everything is better in nullsec compared to highsec, because your probably gonna die mining is better Ratting is better PI is better ect. if everything was th same throughout highsec/lowsec/wh/nullsec then everyone would stay in highsec because there is no reason to leave.

Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.28 18:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Dohfugwimee Have the basic understanding. I know where ore is found. Can even "get" why low has valuable. But again.. other than.."cuz that's the way it is!" Which in itself makes a Thread dedicated to Features and Ideas Discussion a waste of space. Why not seed some in HighSec ..Some players have little to 0 interest in having all their game time and effort flamed by one yahoo with a warp jammer. Not everyone that PAYS for this game wants to play the same as you PVP-ers Get over yourselves. Sandbox doesn't mean ..Hey lets beat up everybody. Open world.. Good places ..Bad places. But Ore should NOT be able to tell the difference. Anyway.. Thanks for the discourse... even you morons CCP..Anyone? Thoughts? As mentioned already but ignored by you is the fact that the best ore in the game is where the least PvP in the game takes place. Telling people to get over themselves when you are blatantly wrong is indeed trolling.
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.11.28 19:32:00 - [22] Edited by: William Cooly on 28/11/2010 19:32:50 Originally by: Herping yourDerp if you dont listen to this your a troll its risk vs reward, everything is better in nullsec compared to highsec, because your probably gonna die mining is better Ratting is better PI is better ect. if everything was th same throughout highsec/lowsec/wh/nullsec then everyone would stay in highsec because there is no reason to leave. Probably worth mentioning that it's more like potential risk vs. reward when it comes to these kind of things. The potential risk in null/wh is that your ship could be blown up without the other guy getting any punishment for it. But in null, the only real risk to miners is that you were too busy chatting with out-of-alliance m8's and didn't watch intel so you could see that scary afk-cloaking Stealth Bomber coming from half a region away, then not notice him on local as the ONLY ONE without a nice blue square next to his name. In hisec, you never actually know if you're in danger until you're already dead, because odds are you're getting killed by a suicide ganker who got bored and decided to grief some d00dz with his fully insured Brutix. And in lowsec... well, lowsec is a broken, broken land where terrible people go to do silly things. I don't know much about it, but what I do know seems to suggest that, realistically, aligning to station whenever someone enters system and keeping a full set of medium combat drones in your Hulk will keep you safe. But why would you go to all that hassle, when you can supply a nullsec alliance and be safer, as well as make more money! Totally flawless system. EDIT:\\ Disclaimer, I am not a miner, I just know miners. - I RETROLL FOR MAXIMUM DAMAGE.
Pan Dora Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.11.28 20:38:00 - [23] Originally by: William Cooly Probably worth mentioning that it's more like potential risk vs. reward when it comes to these kind of things. Totally agree with you. However the real risk is low because of the effort you/your alliance did to lower this from the potential risk. All that ships your alliance lose in defense ops wold worth something (even if you did a good profit selling it to your alliance mates) _ I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game.
Reaver Glitterstim	Posted - 2010.11.28 21:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Uronksur Suth Originally by: Reaver Glitterstim Yeah, but part of the game is all about making sure nobody is safe all the time. If you don't like it, go play something else. CCP doesn't want just some of the players to PVP and some to not. They want players to feel free to PVP with anyone, just about anywhere. The disadvantage lies with the ones who don't want to PVP, and that's just how CCP wants it to be. Really? Strange how we have all this high-sec space where attacking someone brings an overwhelming police presence swooping down on you. That's to give a player a chance to get back on their feet after incurring heavy losses. Or to get on their feet in the first place. PVP just isn't very fun if nobody can get a foothold before they get blown out of the sky. Think before you talk.


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