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F'C
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Posted - 2010.11.29 09:42:00 -
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Why does CCP give a mission that allows Caldari and Amarr (mostly Caldari) to destroy a structure and get 1000 planetary vehicles?! It would take someone running well-developed planets about FOUR DAYS to make that. The components to make one planetary vehicle cost 79,910 isk! So once the NPC stockpiles run out, Caldari and Amarr mission runners will be able to make an additional 80 MILLION isk from ONE mission! CCP should either remove this bonus or give Gallente and Minmatar the opportunity to make this kind of isk as well.
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Rorin Cutter
Caldari
Beatus Tutela
Nihilists Social Club
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Posted - 2010.11.29 11:41:00 -
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 Originally by: F'C
Why does CCP give a mission that allows Caldari and Amarr (mostly Caldari) to destroy a structure and get 1000 planetary vehicles?! It would take someone running well-developed planets about FOUR DAYS to make that. The components to make one planetary vehicle cost 79,910 isk! So once the NPC stockpiles run out, Caldari and Amarr mission runners will be able to make an additional 80 MILLION isk from ONE mission! CCP should either remove this bonus or give Gallente and Minmatar the opportunity to make this kind of isk as well.
huh? what mission is this?
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Inzax
Caldari
In ZAX
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.11.29 12:46:00 -
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Enemies Abound, Level 4, Part 4, I believe. They drop from the Roden Factory Station.
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Jai Di
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Posted - 2010.11.29 12:48:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up, I started that mini arc last night and will be running part 4 this evening.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.29 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jai Di
Thanks for the heads up, I started that mini arc last night and will be running part 4 this evening.
Be careful, with V it is considered to be one of if not thee hardest Lvl out there. I hear it is tougher then the Blockade.
Spawns are on timers and Dmg is across 4 types, bring a friend and read up on this mission on EVE Survival.
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Inzax
Caldari
In ZAX
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.11.29 12:56:00 -
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http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=EnemiesAbound4p4
Comments section has details of the drop.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.11.29 18:24:00 -
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NPC's also drop ammo and meta 0 modules. Would you like those removed as well?
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lord pixxie
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Posted - 2010.11.29 18:59:00 -
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wow didnt know that thanks. but i have a feeling your overexagerating a bit on the amount of vehcles it gives is probably more like 100 could someone confirm this please?
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Iron Eater
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Posted - 2010.11.29 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: F'C
Why does CCP give a mission that allows Caldari and Amarr (mostly Caldari) to destroy a structure and get 1000 planetary vehicles?!
It has already been that way before PI. Maybe CCP just forgot to change it.
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Khan Dok
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Posted - 2010.11.29 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: lord pixxie
wow didnt know that thanks. but i have a feeling your overexagerating a bit on the amount of vehcles it gives is probably more like 100 could someone confirm this please?
Confirming that you don't know and decided to take a wild guess.
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it440
Caldari
OZ industries and Technology
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Posted - 2010.11.29 19:58:00 -
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got that mission twice this weekend and now have 3000 planetary vehicals now as i had it once last week. ive always wondered what ppl use those for. pls tell.
also DONT GIMP MISSIONS ANY MORE PLS!
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Moneyhungryhoe
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Posted - 2010.11.29 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Be careful, with V it is considered to be one of if not thee hardest Lvl out there. I hear it is tougher then the Blockade.
Spawns are on timers and Dmg is across 4 types, bring a friend and read up on this mission on EVE Survival.
Posting to say Alara doesn't know isht. Mission is easy enough even in meta 4 fitted Raven, all you have to do is kill spawns as they appear (I believe 400 DPS is more tahn enough for that)
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.29 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 29/11/2010 23:12:47
Originally by: Moneyhungryhoe
Posting to say Alara doesn't know isht. Mission is easy enough even in meta 4 fitted Raven, all you have to do is kill spawns as they appear (I believe 400 DPS is more tahn enough for that)
Posting to call you a moron.
I was letting the person above me who has not done it before know it was not your normal mission. It has a unique time based spawn method and aggro on all spawns. It also has NOS and dmg dealt accross all four types.
Miss a spawn and if you are in close the DPS will overwhelm you and you need to warp out. If you warp out they will keep spawning and it maxs out at 3000 DPS so it is an all or nothing shot. You could have explained this you have obviously done the mission but warning them of what they are facing is usually a good thing as is looking it up on EVE Survival. But instead you go with it is easy without explaining the unique properties of the mission.
It is always easy after the first time but letting someone new know what they will see is common courtasy. Unless you can think of a harder non story line LVL 4 then it is the hardest and even then I said it was one of the most difficult. Does not mean that someone who knows what they are doing will find it hard.
Stop being ******ed.
Link to Spawn DPS if you haven't run it already.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.29 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Inzax
Enemies Abound, Level 4, Part 4, I believe. They drop from the Roden Factory Station.
That explains it. It's a faction kill mission that myself and others skip to avoid the standings hit.
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Patri Andari
Caldari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.11.30 00:59:00 -
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There are much better ways to get PI materials that have nothing to do with planets or missions.
Just saying.
Patri
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Rip Minner
Gallente
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.30 08:25:00 -
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Thx's man I did not know that. Keep spreading the love brother. Any other good drops I should know about 
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F'C
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Posted - 2010.11.30 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Iron Eater
It has already been that way before PI. Maybe CCP just forgot to change it.
With their own full-time economist and (how many?) employees, I find it hard to believe that they just, "forgot." Seems a little too obvious to overlook, no?
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:15:00 -
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4 days to make 1000 planetary vehicles using PI ?
Id step it up man i can do 2-3k a day if i wish.
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F'C
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Posted - 2010.12.01 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: F''C on 01/12/2010 14:05:07
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
4 days to make 1000 planetary vehicles using PI ?
Id step it up man i can do 2-3k a day if i wish.
From scratch?? I don't think so. With 5 planets and advanced processors and reinitializing extractors EVERY 5 hours on the dot, it'd take about 4 days. If you insist otherwise, I'd be very interested to know how, since you can only have about 21 buildings per planet, but I guess that's a discussion for another thread.
[edit: rechecked math. Actually it would only take about 2 days for 1000. I forgot about basic processors running on 30 minute cycle] |
Boinz
Caldari
Muffin Munchers
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:04:00 -
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You are way over doing this
1 planetary vehicle buy order = just shy of 10k isk
1000x 10000 = 10mill
not 80
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Jai Di
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
I was letting the person above me who has not done it before know it was not your normal mission. It has a unique time based spawn method and aggro on all spawns. It also has NOS and dmg dealt accross all four types.
Thanks for the heads up, I got delayed in doing the mission with real life things, will keep it in mind and may get my alt in a logi just in case.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:27:00 -
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Putting advanced processors on a planet which extracts severly limits your processing power.
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Mavnas
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Posted - 2010.12.01 17:03:00 -
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So this is why those are so cheap. I've always wondered why planetary vehicles were super cheap compared to other similar tier PI commodities.
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Malfesa Longoten
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:40:00 -
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Just ran this mission, and the vehicles did not drop. Possible nerf because of whines?
Preemprive THANKS 
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Zahira Wrath
Amarr
Dominion Strategic
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Posted - 2010.12.01 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Zahira Wrath on 01/12/2010 19:06:18
Originally by: Malfesa Longoten
Just ran this mission, and the vehicles did not drop. Possible nerf because of whines?
Preemprive THANKS
Same here. No vehicle drop anymore. It must have been removed within the last two patches so I doubt it was due to whines.
OP: The drop was there years before PI was introduced. The drop was not removed once PI came out. Please adjust your tin foil hat, I think you put in on way to tight. 
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2010.12.01 19:05:00 -
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Your math is pretty badly off.
If you were right, it just might be worth running the Enemies Abound mission, which tanks your faction standing with Gallente.
As it is, most people just skip it so they don't become criminals in Gallente space.
There are about a million things more profitable than running enemies abound, if you are trying to make money.
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Malfesa Longoten
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Posted - 2010.12.01 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zahira Wrath
Edited by: Zahira Wrath on 01/12/2010 19:06:18
Originally by: Malfesa Longoten
Just ran this mission, and the vehicles did not drop. Possible nerf because of whines?
Preemprive THANKS
Same here. No vehicle drop anymore. It must have been removed within the last two patches so I doubt it was due to whines.
OP: The drop was there years before PI was introduced. The drop was not removed once PI came out. Please adjust your tin foil hat, I think you put in on way to tight.
The whines did not happen until recently. Why would they remove it the instant PI came out? I ran the mission days before Incursion, and the drop was there.
Furthermore, why, then, are they removed now... especially, as you say, since it was there for YEARS?
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Larton Dretta
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Posted - 2010.12.02 06:00:00 -
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It doesn't matter what drops, it's just money, it might aswell be anything. Ever ran Silence the Informant? It's like x'mas in space, no matter the level the mission is.
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CCP Big Dumb Object
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Posted - 2010.12.03 21:07:00 -
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Gallente factories no longer produce planetary vehicles. I blame the economy.
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Captian Conrad
Minmatar
Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2010.12.04 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
Gallente factories no longer produce planetary vehicles. I blame the economy.
A great nerfbat swing by CCP Big Dumb Object...and the Mission has been Nefed and the crowd is going Wild! 
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kri tak
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Posted - 2010.12.04 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: kri tak on 04/12/2010 02:35:57
Seems ccp will latch on to anything to nerf lvl4's these days, well done OP
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Malfesa Longoten
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Posted - 2010.12.04 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
Gallente factories no longer produce planetary vehicles. I blame the economy.
Why the change, just out of curiosity?
Still love the mission, and will continue to run it... but curious as to why something that was not really that profitable was removed from a mission that a lot less people seem to run (because of the standings hit).
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Delta Kiri
Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House
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Posted - 2010.12.04 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malfesa Longoten
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
Gallente factories no longer produce planetary vehicles. I blame the economy.
Why the change, just out of curiosity?
Still love the mission, and will continue to run it... but curious as to why something that was not really that profitable was removed from a mission that a lot less people seem to run (because of the standings hit).
Planetary vehicles were being dropped at a rate 100 X other commodities, thus throwing off the value versus other commodities.
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cooly 0
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Posted - 2010.12.04 22:57:00 -
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Finding 1000 mopeds in space was just too cool for words and had to be removed.
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CCP Big Dumb Object
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Posted - 2010.12.06 16:54:00 -
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So we're clear, this change was in our system long before this thread was even started. A whole crap-ton of PI commodities were removed from NPC loot tables as a PI clean-up task, including the tower cited here. It's a (hilarious) coincidence that this thread started mere days before the fix was published.
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.06 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
So we're clear, this change was in our system long before this thread was even started. A whole crap-ton of PI commodities were removed from NPC loot tables as a PI clean-up task, including the tower cited here. It's a (hilarious) coincidence that this thread started mere days before the fix was published.
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
My question is when are you going to double the number of highsec based combat agents for non-caldari factions. As it stands today there are as many Caldari combat agents in hi-sec as there are all other races combined.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.12.06 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
I nominate this as the best quote of the year. Also, thank you for the new sig. It's perfect! : > My rocket one is outdated...
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"When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
Space Concubine
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Posted - 2010.12.06 22:58:00 -
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This nerf is obvious CCP bias towards gallente/minmatar!
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Bladacticus
Caldari
SOL Industries
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Posted - 2010.12.07 21:10:00 -
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Quote:
My question is when are you going to double the number of highsec based combat agents for non-caldari factions. As it stands today there are as many Caldari combat agents in hi-sec as there are all other races combined.
There's a reason for this. Caldari ships are shield tanks and missile shooters. Shield tanks and missile shooters are all but useless for anything other than PvE. Therefore, most people who fly Caldari ships do PvE more than other races, hence they have more high-sec agents in their space.
If you want to run high sec mission more easily, move to Caldari space. We Caldari have to move to other empires' spaces to get good PvP action. Quit whining.
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.07 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin
I nominate this as the best quote of the year. Also, thank you for the new sig. It's perfect! : > My rocket one is outdated...
I'll second that nomination. And you also have competition for signature quotes.
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.12.08 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bladacticus
Caldari ships are shield tanks and missile shooters. Shield tanks and missile shooters are all but useless for anything other than PvE.
2008 called - it wants its whine back.
Maybe you haven't read any of the other forums here, but shield tankers are running riot in subcap PvP atm.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.08 02:09:00 -
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And Caldari PVP might be getting hit with the nerf bat soon(TM).
[cough]drake[cough]
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Rip Minner
Gallente
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.12.08 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Bladacticus
Caldari ships are shield tanks and missile shooters. Shield tanks and missile shooters are all but useless for anything other than PvE.
2008 called - it wants its whine back.
Maybe you haven't read any of the other forums here, but shield tankers are running riot in subcap PvP atm.
I have to second that one as well
It's Carebear Incursion come early. After all only us Carebears train Shield skills right?
Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.12.08 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
Pity it takes 10 times that long to fix the things that are already broken (Black Ops, Hybrids, Gallente in general, etc). Just saying...
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Jayme Meladi
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Posted - 2010.12.08 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
So we're clear, this change was in our system long before this thread was even started. A whole crap-ton of PI commodities were removed from NPC loot tables as a PI clean-up task, including the tower cited here. It's a (hilarious) coincidence that this thread started mere days before the fix was published.
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
If it takes 2-3 months to remove vehicles from the loot table I guess I'll raise my first children to adulthood before actual needed changes come huh?
Oh well :(
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