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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:08:00 -
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From the blog about the sp change:
"If you find yourself repeatedly training up sub-3m SP alts for specific tasks and then binning them, this may inconvenience you slightly. Sorry. On the other hand, each one will now cost you 20m ISK less, so count your blessings there. Also, recycling alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
I've read the EULA a couple times and I didn't quite get what part applied to that.
Its sort of surprising to me.
Given that scams and other stuff pretty tawdry stuff is allowed... I've got a hard time understanding why people can't play pirates that go down in blazes of glory aren't finding a pretty clean way of role-playing.... just making the world dangerous like a rat at a gate would...sorta acting like player npcs
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:11:00 -
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Typical CCP lack of polish. It should read "recycling negative security status alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Typical CCP lack of polish. It should read "recycling negative security status alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
well yeah, I took it to mean that.. but where is the rule thats getting broken to make pirates that get hunted down by concord to the point they can't loot and pilage innocent shipping any-more so you'd start a new one?
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Aihwa
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:21:00 -
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It bypasses the "punishment" for breaking societies rules. Ganked a few too many hulks? You're damned to rat for a few weeks. Traded your integrity for a few billion isk? Nobody will trust your character again.
It's not perfect, but it enhances the sandbox. (yeah, that sword cuts both way's my scammah friends  )
Gullible
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aihwa
It bypasses the "punishment" for breaking societies rules. Ganked a few too many hulks? You're damned to rat for a few weeks. Traded your integrity for a few billion isk? Nobody will trust your character again.
It's not perfect, but it enhances the sandbox. (yeah, that sword cuts both way's my scammah friends )
Well ... putting the role playing on the shelf for a minute.
I can see why you might make rules about "griefing" in a game.
But heck.. betweens scams, and rigths to war-dec corps of nubes out of existence, they seem to accept some pretty intense griefing thats way more directed than a guy that just plays young pirates who shoot ships in space until they get caught
He might even be shooting high sp players or people who've played for months and months who need no protection
Well forget the arguments of why
What part of the rules ban recycling alts and what other rules are un-writtine that I should know of ?
I've never done that, but I was thinking it might be an interesting business venture somewhere down the line to close off trade routes or something.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Typical CCP lack of polish. It should read "recycling negative security status alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
well yeah, I took it to mean that.. but where is the rule thats getting broken to make pirates that get hunted down by concord to the point they can't loot and pilage innocent shipping any-more so you'd start a new one?
If you want to continue your pirate career after getting banned from high sec you then prowl the low sec and null sec areas. Tbh there is much better tears and loot to be had there than in high sec anyways.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Typical CCP lack of polish. It should read "recycling negative security status alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
well yeah, I took it to mean that.. but where is the rule thats getting broken to make pirates that get hunted down by concord to the point they can't loot and pilage innocent shipping any-more so you'd start a new one?
If you want to continue your pirate career after getting banned from high sec you then prowl the low sec and null sec areas. Tbh there is much better tears and loot to be had there than in high sec anyways.
Really was neither tears, nor loot that would interest me .
More like the joy of piling rocks in a river to temporarliy divert a stream or make a little swimming hole.
Keeping people from using a system, region or a route for the kick of it.. maybe even to discourage people from stocking an area .... or as retribution to a group habitating that region.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Typical CCP lack of polish. It should read "recycling negative security status alts is against the rules and will get you banned."
well yeah, I took it to mean that.. but where is the rule thats getting broken to make pirates that get hunted down by concord to the point they can't loot and pilage innocent shipping any-more so you'd start a new one?
If you want to continue your pirate career after getting banned from high sec you then prowl the low sec and null sec areas. Tbh there is much better tears and loot to be had there than in high sec anyways.
Really was neither tears, nor loot that would interest me .
More like the joy of piling rocks in a river to temporarliy divert a stream or make a little swimming hole.
Keeping people from using a system, region or a route for the kick of it.. maybe even to discourage people from stocking an area .... or as retribution to a group habitating that region.
Well then wardecs and suicide alts fill that bill already. And yes you can quite easily use even a -10 suicide alt in a 1.0 to kill anyone you want provided you have the smarts.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Well then wardecs and suicide alts fill that bill already. And yes you can quite easily use even a -10 suicide alt in a 1.0 to kill anyone you want provided you have the smarts.
I was more thinking of putting up an offer for all comers to pay bounties of some percentage of damage done for shooting things in certain areas.
seemed like a good opportunity for emergent game-play .... bringing territorial struggles to high sec ... sowing chaos in one place ...
not sure exactly how.. just seemed like something to do farther in the future once I have too much isk ...
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Well then wardecs and suicide alts fill that bill already. And yes you can quite easily use even a -10 suicide alt in a 1.0 to kill anyone you want provided you have the smarts.
I was more thinking of putting up an offer for all comers to pay bounties of some percentage of damage done for shooting things in certain areas.
seemed like a good opportunity for emergent game-play .... bringing territorial struggles to high sec ... sowing chaos in one place ...
not sure exactly how.. just seemed like something to do farther in the future once I have too much isk ...
If ccp has the balls to make the sansha incursion rats that supposedly will jump into high sec belts, gates and stations scramble then that will be all the chaos we need in high sec atm. I mean bringing the pain to the bears is all well and good but it has to be done in measures or they will just all emoragequit and noone will be left to mine and produce bs hulls at stupidly undermarket prices.
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Rykuss
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Rykuss on 30/11/2010 07:10:48
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
I mean bringing the pain to the bears is all well and good but it has to be done in measures or they will just all emoragequit and noone will be left to mine and produce bs hulls at stupidly undermarket prices.
Isn't that what pvp'ers want or am I mistaken?
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rykuss
Isn't that what pvp'ers want or am I mistaken?
Bears want it too but not on a conscious level.
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Rykuss
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Bears want it too but not on a conscious level.
Really? Interesting.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rykuss
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Bears want it too but not on a conscious level.
Really? Interesting.
A lot of the best pvp'ers in the game started as bears who "saw the light"(read: the blue flash of their ship blowing up) and decided to "get revenge" which in turn led them to a pvp corp which then led to the relevation that pew pew was not only fun but downright profitable if you supplied the goods to your mates and even your enemies. There is never a down side to killing bears. Ever.
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Rykuss
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Rykuss on 30/11/2010 07:57:38
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
A lot of the best pvp'ers in the game started as bears who "saw the light"(read: the blue flash of their ship blowing up) and decided to "get revenge" which in turn led them to a pvp corp which then led to the relevation that pew pew was not only fun but downright profitable if you supplied the goods to your mates and even your enemies. There is never a down side to killing bears. Ever.
Yes that seems the be the prominent point of view in EVE and although I don't share it I can certainly respect it. |
Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.30 21:23:00 -
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back to my original post (and I didn't make it clear enough)
Where should I have seen that recreating alts is a banable offense?
or perhaps, which rule in the Eula should I have been able to read and use common sense to see that the practice was outside of the intent of the game relative to other acceptable practices?
(I'm always looking at these things far before I get involved with them... but it was something I was considering doing to spark some new iterest for me ... as discussed above)
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Enord Loej
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.30 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Enord Loej on 30/11/2010 21:47:24
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
I've read the EULA a couple times and I didn't quite get what part applied to that.
Originally by: EULA
i. Suspension of Account
Without limiting CCP's rights or remedies, CCP may immediately, and without notice, discontinue or suspend access to the System through your Account, and any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the discontinued or suspended Account, in the event of (i) a breach of the EULA (including the Rules of Conduct) by you or any user under your Account; or (ii) unauthorized access to the System or use of the Game by you or any user under your Account.
Originally by: Suspension and Ban Policy
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
a. Investigation shows that a player has employed the use of an exploit tactic despite a public announcement being made to alert players they will be banned for using it.
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