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Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:15:00 - [1] might as well put the golden magnate up there too. and maybe the immovable enigma _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Sporked	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:18:00 - [2] Originally by: Goremageddon Box might as well put the golden magnate up there too. and maybe the immovable enigma Never know, someone might actually want to sell them for 15b apiece at some point and not get contract fee graped over it.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:21:00 - [3] Edited by: Goremageddon Box on 01/12/2010 12:21:40 Originally by: Sporked Originally by: Goremageddon Box might as well put the golden magnate up there too. and maybe the immovable enigma Never know, someone might actually want to sell them for 15b apiece at some point and not get contract fee graped over it. the limited number of these do not qualify it to be in the market. with faction and pirate ships, you can get them. with these, you have to either A. win a tourny, or B. wish and dream this is stupid. period. there is a limited number of these. but wheres the federation mega? or the gold magnate? those qualify as being just as rare. if i had a bpc for a mimir or freki, i would hold onto to that ***** for a long ass time _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:21:00 - [4] They wanted to implement "kid without money in front of the candy store" effect. This was the best implementation.
RaTTuS BIG Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:22:00 - [5] same as the Guardian-Vextor -- Join BIG
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Sporked someone might actually want to sell them for 15b apiece at some point and not get contract fee graped over it. Someone would be lucky to see them go for such a low price. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Sporked	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Goremageddon Box the limited number of these do not qualify it to be in the market. with faction and pirate ships, you can get them. with these, you have to either A. win a tourny, or B. wish and dream this is stupid. period. there is a limited number of these. but wheres the federation mega? or the gold magnate? those qualify as being just as rare. if i had a bpc for a mimir or freki, i would hold onto to that ***** for a long ass time Iunno, are there actually and FedMegas, Gold Magnates and for that matter Guardian-Vexors left outside of Entity's collection? Although they are valuable I dunno if the Alliance Tourney ships are on the same scale as rare as the other ships you mentioned. Still I agree it's a little silly to have some faction ships and not others.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Sporked Originally by: Goremageddon Box the limited number of these do not qualify it to be in the market. with faction and pirate ships, you can get them. with these, you have to either A. win a tourny, or B. wish and dream this is stupid. period. there is a limited number of these. but wheres the federation mega? or the gold magnate? those qualify as being just as rare. if i had a bpc for a mimir or freki, i would hold onto to that ***** for a long ass time Iunno, are there actually and FedMegas, Gold Magnates and for that matter Guardian-Vexors left outside of Entity's collection? Although they are valuable I dunno if the Alliance Tourney ships are on the same scale as rare as the other ships you mentioned. Still I agree it's a little silly to have some faction ships and not others. you think after the last noob buys a freki/mimir and loses it that entity wont have the last one of that? will the ships be removed from the market after they arrive at 1>minus entity's collection? really....? no stupid move imo on ccp's part. theres faction ships, and omgwtfbbq rare ships, and the latter dont belong on the market. period. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Rene Sauntier Gallente Descendants of Hermes	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:57:00 - [9] Inconsistency for the win! Some rare ships, but not all. (the various shuttles and Primae are the ones that should be on the market) Faction ships but not faction mods. I'll be honest, I don't get CCP's reasoning, but I suppose what we now have is a start. fingers crossed for these in 18 minus whatever months. "What I cannot create, I do not understand."
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.01 12:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Rene Sauntier Inconsistency for the win! Some rare ships, but not all. (the various shuttles and Primae are the ones that should be on the market) Faction ships but not faction mods. I'll be honest, I don't get CCP's reasoning, but I suppose what we now have is a start. fingers crossed for these in 18 minus whatever months. we really need a facepalm smiley _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Twistator	Posted - 2010.12.01 13:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Goremageddon Box .... we really need a facepalm smiley it exists ... m(
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.12.01 14:51:00 - [12] I wish I got a BPO for a freki... lol
Cyrus Doul Infinite Covenant	Posted - 2010.12.01 15:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Diesel47 I wish I got a BPO for a freki... lol But if you got a bpo for a freki it wouldn't be a limited item and not worth 30 billion to sit in your hangar and do nothing.
Rasz Lin Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.12.01 16:56:00 - [14] there was one Freki listed in Jita at 22B after the server went up
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.12.01 17:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Cyrus Doul Originally by: Diesel47 I wish I got a BPO for a freki... lol But if you got a bpo for a freki it wouldn't be a limited item and not worth 30 billion to sit in your hangar and do nothing. Make one, Sell it. Make 30 bil. Repeat when 30bil is done.
H3llHound Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.01 19:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Sporked Iunno, are there actually and FedMegas, Gold Magnates and for that matter Guardian-Vexors left outside of Entity's collection? Although they are valuable I dunno if the Alliance Tourney ships are on the same scale as rare as the other ships you mentioned. Still I agree it's a little silly to have some faction ships and not others. Personally know a guy who has a Megathron Federate Issue in his hangar. Afaik the only Gold Magnate to ever exist has been blown up ~~Recruiting~~ │3rd Party Service
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.12.01 20:06:00 - [17] I'm hoping that CCP made the nice coding error of just checking active accounts and then only adding the ships present in the game as it stands right now as to the market list.
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.12.02 00:37:00 - [18] You know, as the holder of a Mimir, Utu, and a Freki, I would like to say that I think ALL these ships that have a hull in common with another in-game should allow for SOME possibility of invention. I say this knowing that it would seriously depreciate the value of my ships... but I think for the greater EvE community it would be appreciated. I mean, it could be something as small as a 1/50,000 chance of invention success... just my 2 isk. Is anyone with me on this, or am I just talking crazy here? ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.02 00:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Gogela You know, as the holder of a Mimir, Utu, and a Freki, I would like to say that I think ALL these ships that have a hull in common with another in-game should allow for SOME possibility of invention. I say this knowing that it would seriously depreciate the value of my ships... but I think for the greater EvE community it would be appreciated. I mean, it could be something as small as a 1/50,000 chance of invention success... just my 2 isk. Is anyone with me on this, or am I just talking crazy here? There was a ******ed idea sort of like this somewhere else on the forums, somehow yours is not as dumb. Raise the chance, make it so when trying to invent a t2 ship off the base hull sometimes instead you get tourny ship. - I troll stupid people.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.02 01:00:00 - [20] Because if they didn't do it, than there would be a post asking WHY they didn't do it. Either way, they couldn't win and a ******ed post was inevitable. So they flipped a coin and went with it.
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.12.02 03:30:00 - [21] thread is a stupid move on Ops part imo.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 16:09:00 - [22] no, really. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.12.11 16:48:00 - [23] Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/12/2010 16:48:57 I agree with the op.Why have them there?And if you wanna have them there,why not put them all?No point in what they did unless they plan to put more in game. In any case its not enough to get upset over..who cares? Edit:And if you care...why?
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2010.12.11 16:52:00 - [24] Either put all faction ships on market, or don't. Regardless of how rare or not they are. Key being 'faction ship', if they sort under that, then what makes a ship different (or not)? - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 16:55:00 - [25] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/12/2010 16:48:57 I agree with the op.Why have them there?And if you wanna have them there,why not put them all?No point in what they did unless they plan to put more in game. In any case its not enough to get upset over..who cares? Edit:And if you care...why? i care because its kind of upsetting for a noob who comes in game wishing for a freki to be let down knowing hell have to have enough isk to buy a titan to buy one. its also upsetting because there is a limited number of them, aka, if they all go pop, what will they be on the market for? another reason im upset is because if the freki and utu are on the market, where the hell are the faction modules? faction modules are less rare than those. also, it gives a monopoly to the alliance tourney winners if they see fit. this is a no, no, lose-lose situation. it also looks very unprofessional when the freki and utu are under navy faction ships when they are not affiliated with any of the navy/pirate factions. i am upset. this is wrong, on many levels. it makes me think the progammers or developers are 16 years old because there to inconsiderate to put some thought into what ships are easily/readily available while which ones are omgwtfbbqpwn rare. :( _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Joss56	Posted - 2010.12.11 16:57:00 - [26] Quote: but wheres the federation mega? I could put my body on the line against 12 starving blonde's for this one
Anyura	Posted - 2010.12.11 17:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Gogela You know, as the holder of a Mimir, Utu, and a Freki, I would like to say that I think ALL these ships that have a hull in common with another in-game should allow for SOME possibility of invention. You know, as someone who isn't a holder of a Mimir, Utu and a Freki, I would like to point out that I hate you. A lot.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.12.11 17:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Goremageddon Box Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/12/2010 16:48:57 I agree with the op.Why have them there?And if you wanna have them there,why not put them all?No point in what they did unless they plan to put more in game. In any case its not enough to get upset over..who cares? Edit:And if you care...why? i care because its kind of upsetting for a noob who comes in game wishing for a freki to be let down knowing hell have to have enough isk to buy a titan to buy one. its also upsetting because there is a limited number of them, aka, if they all go pop, what will they be on the market for? another reason im upset is because if the freki and utu are on the market, where the hell are the faction modules? faction modules are less rare than those. also, it gives a monopoly to the alliance tourney winners if they see fit. this is a no, no, lose-lose situation. it also looks very unprofessional when the freki and utu are under navy faction ships when they are not affiliated with any of the navy/pirate factions. i am upset. this is wrong, on many levels. it makes me think the progammers or developers are 16 years old because there to inconsiderate to put some thought into what ships are easily/readily available while which ones are omgwtfbbqpwn rare. :( Every post you have made in this thread makes me think you are 12 years old and are getting your panties all bunched up over nothing.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:04:00 - [29] Originally by: Gogela You know, as the holder of a Mimir, Utu, and a Freki, I would like to say that I think ALL these ships that have a hull in common with another in-game should allow for SOME possibility of invention. I say this knowing that it would seriously depreciate the value of my ships... but I think for the greater EvE community it would be appreciated. I mean, it could be something as small as a 1/50,000 chance of invention success... just my 2 isk. Is anyone with me on this, or am I just talking crazy here? I think they should give the winning alliance complete control over production of the ships. the whole unique ships thing is kinda just a waste, most will just sit rotting in hangers
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:11:00 - [30] why did some posts get deleted? _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:12:00 - [31] Personal attacks are not permitted. Unless you are attacking the integrity of ccp it seems.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Personal attacks are not permitted. Unless you are attacking the integrity of ccp it seems. they werent personal attacks they were just random banter. they werent My posts they were two other characters posts, one quoting the utu freki owner guy and the other one just rando. odd. chribbas eve files database didnt catch it.... yet i smellz ccp altz or ism altz _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Anarkiss	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:21:00 - [33] presuming they only put in the ships that are still ingame? those that got killed and are no longer ingame didn't get implemented?
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:21:00 - [34] Yeah it is a bit odd. A thread is usually locked when posts are removed then reopened with an explanation from the mod.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:24:00 - [35] Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Yeah it is a bit odd. A thread is usually locked when posts are removed then reopened with an explanation from the mod. like i said, i smell ccp/icm alts. they're were posts here that were completely removed, not just edited blank, or fixed for content from a mod. ..... Originally by: Anarkiss presuming they only put in the ships that are still ingame? those that got killed and are no longer ingame didn't get implemented? dude. did you not read this thread? entity has a fed mega, multiple people have other one-off rare ships. this does not answer the question. these ships are not in the same class as the ones they are next too. this just does the whole "look what you can't have" thing to everyone who views those ships on the market. wheres the apaotheosis? i have 3. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Anarkiss	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Goremageddon Box dude. did you not read this thread? entity has a fed mega, multiple people have other one-off rare ships. this does not answer the question. these ships are not in the same class as the ones they are next too. this just does the whole "look what you can't have" thing to everyone who views those ships on the market. wheres the apaotheosis? i have 3. dude. i duno exactly what entity has ship wise O.o, however, i would like to see all the rare ships on market or some ingame database so i ca nview them all with the newish ship viewing button.
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Anarkiss Originally by: Goremageddon Box dude. did you not read this thread? entity has a fed mega, multiple people have other one-off rare ships. this does not answer the question. these ships are not in the same class as the ones they are next too. this just does the whole "look what you can't have" thing to everyone who views those ships on the market. wheres the apaotheosis? i have 3. dude. i duno exactly what entity has ship wise O.o, however, i would like to see all the rare ships on market or some ingame database so i ca nview them all with the newish ship viewing button. troll _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:55:00 - [38] Edited by: Aiwha on 11/12/2010 18:56:44 EDIT: 7/10 successful troll is successful. Gullible
Goremageddon Box Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla Shades of Gray	Posted - 2010.12.11 18:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Aiwha Edited by: Aiwha on 11/12/2010 18:56:44 EDIT: 7/10 successful troll is successful. ninja edit. very fast ninja edit. yes, i complain about the ******edness of the market system compared to the boriness or eve, the lag fest of blob warfare, and the unbalanced corp rampage creation spree. blah blah. i still dont think they need to be on the market. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever.
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.11 19:02:00 - [40] Originally by: Goremageddon Box Originally by: Aiwha Edited by: Aiwha on 11/12/2010 18:56:44 EDIT: 7/10 successful troll is successful. ninja edit. very fast ninja edit. yes, i complain about the ******edness of the market system compared to the boriness or eve, the lag fest of blob warfare, and the unbalanced corp rampage creation spree. blah blah. i still dont think they need to be on the market. Yes. Because I have forum Ninja Edit to V. Gullible

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