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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.12.05 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 05/12/2010 08:49:13
 Originally by: MotherMoon
If I want to a fly a frigate that can take out a typhoon 1v1 (or at least stalemate 3 of them) why shouldn't I be able to? that's awesome!
And this I bet..is why they haven't been put into the game.If I wanna fly my pod into your dread and blow it up..why shouldn't I be able to?
Ill give you the answer.Because a battleship takes three times the time to train,and costs 20 times as much as your frig,thats why.
Edit:And its not awesome its lame and would leave you no reason to fly anything other than a frig.Frig online anyone?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.12.05 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 05/12/2010 08:49:13
Originally by: MotherMoon
If I want to a fly a frigate that can take out a typhoon 1v1 (or at least stalemate 3 of them) why shouldn't I be able to? that's awesome!
And this I bet..is why they haven't been put into the game.If I wanna fly my pod into your dread and blow it up..why shouldn't I be able to?
Ill give you the answer.Because a battleship takes three times the time to train,and costs 20 times as much as your frig,thats why.
Edit:And its not awesome its lame and would leave you no reason to fly anything other than a frig.Frig online anyone?
no but that's my point.
a tech frigate would cost as much as a battleship.
and I didn't mean kill, I mean kill as in lock it down for good, I mean in any good sci fi small ships are a large ships dread!
A ship that cost as much as your battle ship BUT it's job isn't to kill you,it's to be too small and strong for you to kill, or maybe just they are on equal footing.
but your point about skill time is mute, you would need some t2 cruisers or t3 to killa tech frigate 1v1, so you bring one with your battleship.
and hell a tech 3 frig might even cost MORE than a battleship!
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Sid Zero
State Wh0re Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.05 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Because a battleship takes three times the time to train,and costs 20 times as much as your frig,thats why.
After insurance, battleships will be cheaper to lose than t3 frigs.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.05 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: TR4D3R4LT
Originally by: Gallians
What are the other subsystems?
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/919090/page/2#35
I might be bitter vet but to me T3 is just another feature ccp brought in with huge promises and finished just 4/5th of it... or if you count in how the 5th set of each subsystem would increases possible permutations you might realize they left out majority of promised possible ship configurations, more then what the current t3 configurations allow.
But hey, Apocrypha was only released as summer 2009 expansion. It's only been year and half so by thus far fix/promise keeping standards from CCP we're only looking at 6 months or so. After all they just fixed rockets that they broke winter 2008 so by that logic we'll SoonÖ see promised T3.
I'm suspecting they didn't release anything incomplete, and that T3 cruisers were -meant- to have 4 subcomponents per type. I'm guessing T3 frigs will have 3 variants (not much you can do with a flexible frig) and T3 BS will have the full 5, and thus the most options.
Time will tell...
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Dors Venabily
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Posted - 2010.12.05 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jamie Jin
Edited by: Jamie Jin on 05/12/2010 05:34:38
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 05/12/2010 05:19:38
t3 frigs would make all other frigs useless.
Implying you know how they'll work. 
Originally by: Emperor Cheyney
100 mil for a solo winmobile
Implying you know how much they'll cost.
Edit: Also Nobody uses rifters anymore for anything guise lolol amd no t1 frigs ever guise lolol
He makes a logical assumption based on a situation with cruisers.
With money flying around as it is these days you can with confidence say that T3 cruisers have [with maybe exception of 2] made all the other t2 cruisers and command ships obsolete.
You can get same performance with more speed or more tank or more damage or all together out of a t3. You pay for it more sure but there is a reason Deimos is diemost and Proteus is awesome.
[Ishtar still serves a purpose but that is one of the 2 exceptions :D]
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Jamie Jin
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.12.05 14:52:00 -
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I think I may have read this somewhere in this thread ? To lazy to read it again  I just skimmed it again and didnt notice it.
But someone said 'there's a reason you don't see roaming swarms or t3' and also there's a reason that you don't see a lot of t3 in fleet fights, cost being a major factor. They are more geared towards solo or small gang work. But I would argue that with t2 and t1 there is still a huge amount of reason to use them over t3. Thats why you see them more, 100x more, you just don't notice them as much.
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