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Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.12.05 16:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 05/12/2010 16:35:43 On SiSi, so that was okay. But made me go WTF. Was on the last pocket of In the Midst of Deadspace Part 1. Popped the sentry guns first, then had guns focus on the battleships, and drones gradually take out frigs. Frigswarm was the issue I think. Single rep, 2x2x hardeners, two cap rigs etc. Nothing faction. What went wrong? Thought it was ultimate mission ship lol. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores Eleutherian Guard [FDU]
Hybok	Posted - 2010.12.05 16:28:00 - [2] Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores What want wrong? Thought it was ultimate mission ship lol. this was wrong
RnDr Brain	Posted - 2010.12.05 16:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Hybok Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores What want wrong? Thought it was ultimate mission ship lol. this was wrong or this : 2x Battleships (2x Amarr Navy Jakars using Kinetic Cruise Missiles)
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.12.05 22:00:00 - [4] Originally by: RnDr Brain or this : 2x Battleships (2x Amarr Navy Jakars using Kinetic Cruise Missiles) kronos has a 51.3% base kinetic resist, so I doubt the 2 ships using kinetic missiles is that damaging. gun ships are good at taking out frigs at range, so might want to try killing some of the frigs off with your guns first thing. they like to fly right at you with low transversial and get one shot by most battleship guns.
Julia Venatrix	Posted - 2010.12.06 15:06:00 - [5] I have a corpie who flies the Kronos who gave up on that "safe" fit, finding that more gank actually felt safer. Try 3x FN MFS, IN LAR, 2x1 T2 Hardener + EANM II in the lows? Then TCII, FN Web, CRIIx2 in the mids. Pop frigs first. Web is really for cruisers that get close enough - frigs shouldn't survive to get to web range. --- Some days you are the pigeon, and some the statue.
Gligan	Posted - 2010.12.07 14:25:00 - [6] What went wrong - for most missions, not all - not enough DPS. Thus I say to thee - go forth and fiteth thy ship correctly. 4 x 425s 4 slots for shield tank (do the best you can) or shield tank + AB 4 damage mods 3 tracking enhancers(might have to change 1 for DC for the extra tank) 3 sentry drones light drones CCC2x2 go forth I say to thee and spread through the skies you gallenteans you...
Seraph Castillon Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.07 17:06:00 - [7] Edited by: Seraph Castillon on 07/12/2010 17:10:51 Your fit has less DPS the armor tanked variation and the tank is a joke in comparison. Use the following setup and drop the third hardener if you'd like, you don't need it. [Kronos, Dream On] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Nanobot Accelerator I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II Garde II x3 Hobgoblin II x5
Lemming EVERADIO'FAN Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.08 02:21:00 - [8] Edited by: Lemming EVERADIO''FAN on 08/12/2010 02:24:41 If you speed running missions and watching your agro properly, you only need to hit about a 450 Active HP rep Tank. You have the DPS to kill at range. I disagree with the sentries, as sitting still when they get close hurt your ability to move to get angular up or missile velocity down. I perfer a Ex/TH Medium mix, as I mostly encounter Angels and Serps where I run missions. The fit below is great for keeping you moving without having to swap tank every mission. If the tank isn't holding propperly you F* up in agro and target prioritization. The link augmentor is for when I run missions alongside my friend. His vaga likes to sit out 50Km from me and shoot cruisers on their way in. But for the most part, you should only really need drones to assist with close cruisers/frigs, and extra DPS to drop a swarm of BS's on approach. But also with this you can see which modules we do agree on. 710 DPS from the guns, 450 omni tank that holds just fine. [Kronos, Final Build] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Reactive Membrane 100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Valkayre II X5 Hobs or Warrior II's X5
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.12.08 09:32:00 - [9] Or maybe mission difficulties have been beefed up on Sisi and the guys here do not know what they are talking about. Boy, there will be a lot of whining if missions suddenly opposed a challange. dreaming -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
Jayme Meladi	Posted - 2010.12.08 09:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Or maybe mission difficulties have been beefed up on Sisi and the guys here do not know what they are talking about. Boy, there will be a lot of whining if missions suddenly opposed a challange. dreaming It's far more likely that he was just getting curb stomped by Jakar's I can tank an insane amount of ships in a gank fit Vargur but as soon as you drop two Jakar's on me my tank starts to break.... they hit hard, so hard in fact that they make Darkana's look like children.

Hinaa Gallente Hyasyoda Ent	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:21:00 - [11] Doing missions mainly for caldari but my kronos is able to solo all of them, my fit: 3x Magnetic field stabiliser II Damage control II 2x ENAM II Large armor repairer II med: 3x Cap Recharger II AB /web depending on mission. high: 4x 425mm rail [I'm using t2, but gauss doing great and there are cheap] 2x tractor beam salvager drones: 5x med specific to mission 5x small 5x small [backup] rigs: Nano pump x2 Ship bonuses are used optimally that way. LAR is repping around 1300 hp on cycle. [maruder skill lev 4] shooting, repping and salvaging is cap stable with ab it can fly for around 5min which is enough to get some distance and lower traversal. I didn't have the mission you've mentioned but if those hard hitting bastards coming close...don't let them, fire ab, get in line reduce traversal and kill them from distance. And don't let frigs surround you. At 50-40km frigs coming straight at you dying from a salvo or 2. Best option to have long range ammo and shoot them from 80-70km...leave bs for last.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.09 14:12:00 - [12] Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 09/12/2010 14:14:00 My Kronos fit versus therm/kin rats: Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane Centum A-Type Energized Magnetic Membrane Centus A-Type Large Armor Repairer Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Cap Recharger II Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator II Hobgoblin II x5 Ogre II x3 The Navy Webber is there for the lols. I am planning to get around to replacing the tracking comp with a faction variant at some point. This mission can catch you out if you do not manage agro carefully. The Jakars do hit hard, so take the correct group first and snipe the incoming frigs. [html]http://skilltrainingcomplete.com/users/flair/1417.html[/html]


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