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Pou Tau	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:31:00 - [1] Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:31:58 I have only been playing eve a few months but I have already seen intolerable behavior against new players. Time and time again someone; scams a newbie out of a P.L.E.X., or convinces them to join their corp and move their Tech 1 fitted raven and 17 million in assists to 0.0 solely to steal them. For the sake of new blood, and continued survival of the game please consider anyone who is... <2 months old (Trail + First Month) and has <75 million in assists Off limits to scams / griefing / ganking. Now if they provoke you in any way, teach them what ever lesson you want. But otherwise lets be helpful to the new blood, because it was veteran players help which kept me playing.
Borun Tal Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:39:00 - [2] What's with all the dumb@ss posts in C&P lately?!?! People getting kicked out of alliances and can't post their childish drivel in CAOD?
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:39:00 - [3] Naaah.
Calfis	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Borun Tal What's with all the dumb@ss posts in C&P lately?!?! People getting kicked out of alliances and can't post their childish drivel in CAOD? C&P is obviously the next logical step after you are locked out of CAOD
Pou Tau	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:48:00 - [5] Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:56:00 Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:48:02 You scam a vet player out of 150 mil, he might take a day or two to get that back. You scam a 1 month old player out of 20 mil, he might quit. I know you get hard of raging others, so if sexual gratification is your desire, go after the elites, because their anger is the best aphrodisiac.
Ceq Lysander Caldari Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:03:00 - [6] "Leave new-players alone!"
Brusanan Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:56:00 You scam a 1 month old player out of 20 mil, he might quit. In this case you are doing them a favor. It's better they realize Eve is not their kind of game sooner, rather than later. ______
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Pou Tau I know you get hard of raging others, so if sexual gratification is your desire, go after the elites, because their anger is the best aphrodisiac. Was that supposed to be a poem? It doesn't even rhyme. You suck.
Virlomi Silver Minmatar Samurai Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:24:00 - [9] and where will it say there are really new and not just someones alt on a new account? eve is hard to tell who is really a noob or just an old player being acting like one....scams are a part of eve if they dont learn when there still a noob with only 75m to lose they will be cheated out of tons more isk later.
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:27:00 - [10] less than 75m cant get scammed out of plexes now can they. the more you wrap them in cotton wool the harder the fall later. ~
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:31:00 - [11] I'm pretty sure this is a troll, but that's okay. I'm at work and I don't want to be. Eve has always been this way, and it is intentional. It's a sandbox game with no ethical rules. Survival of the fittest, trial by fire. It also takes two people for this to become a problem. Person one to execute the scam, and person two to forget that it's a game and get all bent out of shape over it instead of learning. See, when I first started Eve, I told told that SmartBombs were 'smart' because they only damaged ships that had aggressed you. I thought that was pretty neat, so after some encouragement I was convinced to go to Jita and try it out. Well, of course I exploded, but instead of running to C&P and making a terrible thread, I called the guys *******s and then laughed with them - because it's just a game and, well, it WAS pretty funny. It also taught me a good lesson about what Eve is really about. It's all about attitude. - "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object
Kristin ouysnwo	Posted - 2010.12.07 20:34:00 - [12] "New player" is temporary. Stupid is for life.
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2010.12.07 21:33:00 - [13] A several-month-old player with the skills to fly a T1-fitted Raven can recover 17 million in assets in a matter of _hours_, if not _minutes_. Even starting from basically scratch, a full recovery (i.e. replacing the raven) can be achieved by running up the missions in about a week without dedicating more than casual play-time to the game. So... basically, they should get over it. You win some, you lose some. I say this with all love, as someone that usually won't even pod people unless they're being douchebags. HTFU, there aren't really any permanent penalties in this game. --- If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.12.07 21:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Kristin ouysnwo "New player" is temporary. Stupid is for life. That's bio material...right there. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Anyura	Posted - 2010.12.07 21:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Kristin ouysnwo "New player" is temporary. Stupid is for life. nods sagely
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2010.12.07 22:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Brusanan Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:56:00 You scam a 1 month old player out of 20 mil, he might quit. In this case you are doing them a favor. It's better they realize Eve is not their kind of game sooner, rather than later. Too many carebears and safety in EVE to understand this, nowadays. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Triple Entendre	Posted - 2010.12.07 22:30:00 - [17] Edited by: Triple Entendre on 07/12/2010 22:31:49 Originally by: Jovan Geldon Originally by: Pou Tau If you get hard from angered nubs Sexual Gratification desired, The trained and brave heroes of olde Produce the most appealing ire. Was that supposed to be a poem? It doesn't even rhyme. You suck. Fixed for the OP? I don't know. It's not the easiest source material to get a good rhythm. Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
Kacer Xenro Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.12.07 22:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 20:07:50 Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:31:58 I have only been playing eve a few months but I have already seen intolerable behavior against new players. Time and time again someone; scams a newbie out of a P.L.E.X., or convinces them to join their corp and move their Tech 1 fitted raven and 17 million in assists to 0.0 solely to steal them. For the sake of new blood, and continued survival of the game please consider anyone who is... <2 months old (Trail + First Month) and has <75 million in assets Off limits to scams / griefing / ganking. Now if they provoke you in any way, teach them what ever lesson you want. But otherwise lets be helpful to the new blood, because it was veteran players help which kept me playing. its called natural selection, its what makes eve good
Xolornem Srrpep	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:00:00 - [19] I agree it wouldn't hurt to be nicer to new players.
Triple Entendre	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Pou Tau Now if they provoke you in any way, teach them what ever lesson you want. But otherwise lets be helpful to the new blood, because it was veteran players help which kept me playing. Oh, and just for the record, people in local mess with something in the back of my head. I mean, REALLY mess with me. And I don't like that. Not. One. Bit. Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
Griznatch Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:02:00 - [21] Originally by: Xolornem Srrpep I agree it wouldn't hurt to be nicer to new players. aww, aint you just adorable whats a signature?
De'Veldrin Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Xolornem Srrpep I agree it wouldn't hurt to be nicer to new players. It might. Imagine this scenario. You come across some new player in lowsec in his shiny new faction cruiser and you decide not to gank him - "It can't hurt to let him be". Then someone else comes alone, pops him, and scoops the loot and kill mail. While you're raging about leaving the new players alone, you accidentally fall out of your chair and break your arm, then pull your monitor down on your head trying to stand back up giving yourself a concussion. All of that could be avoided had you just shot the new guy in the first place. I'd say being nicer to new players could be pretty painful indeed. --Vel I'm more of a care-badger.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:21:00 - [23] 1. Don't scam/gank any new players, do not teach them any lessons 2. Scam/gank them when they have gotten older/richer instead 3. Profit - I wish I was a three foot tall doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Azimota	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 20:07:50 Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:31:58 I have ... 17 million ... lets be helpful...
AFK 'Cloaker	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:58:00 - [25]
De'Veldrin Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.12.08 00:18:00 - [26] Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker But why in here? --Vel I'm more of a care-badger.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.12.08 01:05:00 - [27] TEST is always open for nubs to join up.
Xan So'Sarian	Posted - 2010.12.08 04:57:00 - [28] I think the point is, not to target them. I mean if they are flying around 0.3, by all means, show them what it means to be a pirate~ But thats a bit different than going to the SoE epic arc for "recruiting," then offering to transport assets to the HQ in null sec.....
IQ 001	Posted - 2010.12.08 06:33:00 - [29] Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I GET IT!!!!!!!!!
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.08 06:58:00 - [30] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker But why in here? Did you not notice? V 'Cloaker ^ This is not AFK Cloaker. Gullible
Chingyz Caldari Reverse Psychology. BAT PHONE	Posted - 2010.12.08 09:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Crumplecorn 1. Don't scam/gank any new players, do not teach them any lessons 2. Scam/gank them when they have gotten older/richer instead 3. Profit See this is the way to do it. Let them mature and get ripe with isk, then you harvest them.
DeBingJos Minmatar Ethically Questionable	Posted - 2010.12.08 09:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker But why in here? Did you not notice? V 'Cloaker ^ This is not AFK Cloaker. Impersonating AFK Cloacker!!!! This be dealth with!!!
afkalt	Posted - 2010.12.08 10:12:00 - [33] Originally by: DeBingJos Edited by: DeBingJos on 08/12/2010 09:58:22 Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker But why in here? Did you not notice? V 'Cloaker ^ This is not AFK Cloaker. Impersonating AFK Cloaker!!!! This be dealth with!!! Maybe its a double bluff - AFK Cloaker is cloaked after all, who knows what [s]he looks like!
Marchocias Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.12.08 12:41:00 - [34] Edited by: Marchocias on 08/12/2010 12:41:15 Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:56:00 Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:48:02 You scam a vet player out of 150 mil, he might take a day or two to get that back. You scam a 1 month old player out of 20 mil, he might quit. I know you get hard of raging others, so if sexual gratification is your desire, go after the elites, because their anger is the best aphrodisiac. Personally, I prefer furiously jerking off whilst canflipping in starter systems. Oooooh yeaaaahhh! You should see me afterwards; I've usually filled 3 or 4 buckets with sperm. Because everyone who plays the game in a way you don't like must be getting perverse sexual stimulation, am I right? ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.12.08 13:14:00 - [35] Just untick the PVP flag until you are ready.
Helios Black Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.12.08 17:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Ceq Lysander "Leave new-players alone!" Leave Brittany alone! Originally by: Helicity Boson Maybe you should go play Uno with your mom so you can be "second winner" again.
Kristin ouysnwo	Posted - 2010.12.08 18:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Pou Tau I have only been playing eve a few months but I have already seen intolerable behavior against new players. For the sake of new blood, and continued survival of the game please consider anyone who is... Now if they provoke you in any way, teach them what ever lesson you want. 1. You are new, and obviously one of the dumb ones. I knew within 1 hour of beginning to play that Eve was not safe in any way shape or form.This is what attracted me to the game. 2. This has been going on since Eve began, and the game has survived quite well. Inferring that the game will die because noobs get scammed is also pretty dumb. 3. They provoke me by having assets. I respond by relieving them of said assets and in turn doing two things, either ridding eve of players who are too dumb to really be an asset to anyone anyway, or by making better and smarter eve players. I provide a service dammit.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.12.08 18:25:00 - [38] Originally by: Helios Black Originally by: Ceq Lysander "Leave new-players alone!" Leave Brittany alone! Fixed that for you. Now linky enhanced! - "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object
Helios Black Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.12.08 19:57:00 - [39] Hehehehe, thanks. Originally by: Helicity Boson Maybe you should go play Uno with your mom so you can be "second winner" again.
sukmanobov Minmatar The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.12.08 23:43:00 - [40] Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 20:07:50 Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:31:58 I have only been playing eve a few months but I have already seen intolerable behavior against new players. Time and time again someone; scams a newbie out of a P.L.E.X., or convinces them to join their corp and move their Tech 1 fitted raven and 17 million in assists to 0.0 solely to steal them. For the sake of new blood, and continued survival of the game please consider anyone who is... <2 months old (Trail + First Month) and has <75 million in assets Off limits to scams / griefing / ganking. Now if they provoke you in any way, teach them what ever lesson you want. But otherwise lets be helpful to the new blood, because it was veteran players help which kept me playing. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA NO! -------------------------------- http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1370931&page=1 ------
Ronald Raygunn	Posted - 2010.12.09 06:02:00 - [41] Originally by: Brusanan Originally by: Pou Tau Edited by: Pou Tau on 07/12/2010 19:56:00 You scam a 1 month old player out of 20 mil, he might quit. In this case you are doing them a favor. It's better they realize Eve is not their kind of game sooner, rather than later. But how would they know its not their game? A couple of months is hardly enough time to get your feet wet in this game, really, its a continued learning process for awhile, until you get comfy doing something. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty big sandbox game, but I can see where the OP is coming from. And who says C&P hasn't become like CAOD?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.12.09 07:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Kristin ouysnwo "New player" is temporary. Stupid is for life. Just making sure people that only read page 2 see this as well. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Lillith Starfire	Posted - 2010.12.09 10:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Aiwha Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: AFK 'Cloaker But why in here? Did you not notice? V 'Cloaker ^ This is not AFK Cloaker. This thread is now the drama of the fake AFK Cloaker! Who is he? Why is he? Where is he? Is he not AFK? The drama!
Evil Engineer	Posted - 2010.12.09 13:54:00 - [44] Those that do not learn fast, die fast. The steep learning curve of eve, the everpresent threat of pirates and griefers looming around the corner and the fact you loose all assets you had on you is what keeps both idiots and children away from the game. As a newbie Gallente back on my first character, I had just bought a shiny new ship and decided to fly back through a couple of low security systems as a shortcut back to my missions. Ofcourse, there had to be a gate camp waiting for me and pop went the weasle. Although I was unhappy, that day I learnt that in Eve, sh** happens, and that i'de most likely end up doing the exact same thing later on to some other random noob.
Man Barthelme The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.12.09 17:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Evil Engineer Apparently, I chose the wrong character to post as, awell. Idiot

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