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Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.09 01:26:00 - [1] Whats I think would be cool and in line with this proposal is to have a large gun rack of small weapons. Like a point defense battery. Its a large gun, has the same bonus as a large gun but it has duel cruiser or quad frig turrets. People would say that's overpowered but what small ship should survive a head to head engagement with a battleship? Let alone win it. In any situation when you attack a large ship, in RL and in most games, with small ships you do it in force, not solo. Never heard of a single naval battle in history, where a solo frigate or destroyer or even a cruiser, went toe to toe with a battleship and won. There have been cases where multiple frigates and cruisers sank battleships however. --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.14 07:06:00 - [2] Originally by: Mike Voidstar Quote: Thus, it would be murder to everything smaller Yep... at the cost of effectiveness on hulls your size or larger. This isn't just a Battleship discussion, though that's the largest commonly flown hull, and therefore the most common large difference. Agree 100%. Megathron with bonused T2 large blasters and ogre II drones = 1130 dps. Megathron with bonused T2 medium blasters with ogre II drones = 927 dps. Megathron with bonused T2 small blasters with ogre II drones = 774 dps. Of course if you in combat with smaller ships that would drop even more since you most probably be using med drones on cruisers and light on small ships. I doubt it would be murder to everything smaller. Smaller ships still have a distinct advantage over large ships in mobility, thus they can dictate range and traversal. It would mean that small ships wouldn't be immune to battleships except on the chance they equipped a neut. And quite frankly, if I pay 100 million isk for a ship, I expect it to perform well over a ship worth 200 thousand. Bring more 200 thousand isk ships if you want to beat me. --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.14 12:17:00 - [3] ed Originally by: Robert Caldera Originally by: Mike Voidstar It also means that a single frigate no longer tackles a Battleship ea sily and without fear. It would take at least 2---one for tackle, and one for Electronic Warfare. this should not be that way. requiring multiple interceptors for tackling a stupid ratter is a very bad idea. Explain? You are in a tiny little ship, worth 1/5 that of a the massive battleship you are attacking. Why do you deserve to be completely immune to it? --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.16 00:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Zilberfrid Removing any problems to fit the existing tank, increasing tracking about fourfold, decreasing DPS by a margin. This is what you propose and I oppose. It is true I could not for the life of me fill the grid in any of the setups I proposed, and still gun damage versus cruisers and below would increase about 100%. This is not a small boost. Hmmm. With a 5% per skill level damage bonus and a limit of level 5 how does the damage increase by 100%? --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.
Infinity Ziona Minmatar Cloakers	Posted - 2010.12.17 10:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Mike Voidstar Edited by: Mike Voidstar on 17/12/2010 06:43:58 You need to think straight. You don't get 100% damage increase out of a 25% max bonus. Any ship can already fit small guns. There would be no tracking increase, unless the hull grants a tracking bonus. The only possible issue here would be if certain bonuses are not available on all hull sizes. This whole suggestion allows nothing that is not already available in game. All it does is include the weapon bonuses regardless of size, instead of restricting the bonus (and just the bonus) to a certain size weapon. Arguing that a BS would somehow be granted a tracking increase by allowing hull bonuses is a strawman at best, and a sign of diminished capacity at worst. Agreed. Its a nonsensical argument. --------------------------------------------- Hate Bots / RMT? Do something worthwhile and good for EvE and cause tears and anguish for others, while doing absolutely nothing yourself! Join up.

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